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mugatu
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Fun game.
Good thing nobody posts unbiased sources around here.
Totally apples to apples.
Very observant.
Did you see him do it? I'm guessing a few of us know enough about it to verify that it happened.
Fun game.
Totally apples to apples.
It seems fairly consistent. The government says you did it and they aren't going to arrest you if you aren't guilty.
Two fundamental non-negotiable values that I hold….that I have dedicated my entire adult work life to protecting and upholding… are:
1. Every person in this country…legally or illegally….immigrant or citizen…man, woman, child…have the right and are due fundamental due process protections…both substantive and procedural.
2. No single person….regardless of position, identity, or office is above the law.
Trump and his entire administration has shown me time and again they do not believe in either of those values.
For that reason alone, I could never support anything they do.
Period. Full stop.
1. Every person in this country…legally or illegally….immigrant or citizen…man, woman, child…have the right and are due fundamental due process protections…both substantive and procedural.
2. No single person….regardless of position, identity, or office is above the law.
Trump and his entire administration has shown me time and again they do not believe in either of those values.
For that reason alone, I could never support anything they do.
Period. Full stop.
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Good thing nobody posts unbiased sources around here.
So was your intention to educate or post something that is biased for your side?
You seem a little proud of you hand waiving away of fundamental due process.Very observant.
Which is very disappointing because I thought you were better than that.
Now pretend a known gang member and wife beater fled the US to El Salvador. Would you want him deported back here or left there to avoid being murdered by his rival gang?
Polds4OSU
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Trump's counterterrorism czar Sebastian Gorka says Americans critical of deportations like Abrego Garcia's are providing "material support" to terrorists — a felony crime.
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Trump's Counterterror Czar Proposes Terror Charges for Political Opponents
Either you love America or you don’t, he says
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I expect nothing less than you standing up for what you believe in. Sorry me doing the same "disappoints" you.
It seems like your two fundamental points contradict each other because illegals engaging in criminal activity absolutely believe they are above the law or they wouldn't be here.
They don’t contradict each other at all.
Those illegal are absolutely subject to all of the laws ….civil and criminal…and aren’t above them regardless of what they “believe”. If they are violating the law, they will be convicted or deported or whatever after following due process requirements in doing so.
Compared to Trump who has argued in court (and sadly won at the Supreme Court in IMO one of the most despicable and anti-American decisions since Korematsu) that the President is immune from prosecution and can violate the law with impunity as long as he does it as an “official action” of the office.
I’m disappointed that you seemingly don’t realize (or don’t care) how quickly that your hand waving away of due process can and likely will be turned on people you aren’t “okay” with it happening to (by this or some other future administration). That’s why due process is a non-negotiable for me.
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mugatu
Sheriff
Where have you seen he was a known gang members in either country? I've yet to see a single court ruling that confirms either. Strange that he's "a known gang member" that has had no charges.
You don’t need to confirm or prove either to any standard of proof if you are okay with no due process.
All you need is the assertion by the government.
mugatu
Sheriff
Completely agree for what they are doing. It's completely unconstitutional is so many ways, but they don't see these people as human so they don't care. They don't care that like many of the others he wasn't convicted of anything in either country, and he wasn't given a chance to defend himself. It's easier to just believe when Trump says they are gang bangers and not care what the truth is.
Theres reports now of a 19 year that was awaiting a court date and was arrested and sent off. He wasn't even someone they were looking for and he had no criminal ties, he was just there.
ICE agents realize they arrested wrong teen, say 'take him anyway'
Merwil Gutiérrez, was deported to El Salvador's notorious super prison, despite his family's insistence that he has no gang ties or criminal history.
www.newsweek.com
Back in the day, we were willing to shoot the British to establish those rights.
Now lots of folks just shrug & look the other way.
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President Donald Trump’s pick to be Washington’s U.S. attorney has appeared on Russian state media over 150 times, according to an investigation by The Washington Post.
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President Donald Trump’s pick to be Washington’s U.S. attorney has appeared on Russian state media over 150 times, according to an investigation by The Washington Post.
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