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Yeah, at this point I don't really care who uncovers it and you shouldn't either. The argument that we shouldn't pull back the curtain because Trump "might" do something shady is just ridiculous. I have no way of knowing if this post is accurate but the more I see the more I'm convinced that the whole dang thing needs burned to the ground.

If they are going after corruption or fraud, this should be run by the DOJ not by DOGE (aka Musk and some random gen Z kids). At this point I'm not sure if there is any ability to legally use anything they find because they have no legal authority and have been digging and around and potentially changing things in the system.

If it is as bad as you claim then the DOJ should be investigating USAID, not who in the FBI was working Jan 6 cases.

The way they have been doing this is going to cast a shadow on any "discovery" they make and announce.
 
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We have excelled as an economy despite the loss of "good manufacturing jobs." Funny how that works.
The US gov (and society) has not prioritized or cared about manufacturing jobs since Reagan. The priority has been put on financial work not production work. Just look at how tax code has been worked, it incentivizes financial trade not commodity creation.
 
If they are going after corruption or fraud, this should be run by the DOJ not by DOGE (aka Musk and some random gen Z kids). At this point I'm not sure if there is any ability to legally use anything they find because they have no legal authority and have been digging and around and potentially changing things in the system.

If it is as bad as you claim then the DOJ should be investigating USAID, not who in the FBI was working Jan 6 cases.

The way they have been doing this is going to cast a shadow on any "discovery" they make and announce.
Right....because the DOJ has done such an outstanding job of rooting out corruption thus far. If the DOJ had been doing its job we wouldn't be here. The perfect person to do this job is someone that isn't running for re-election and really has nothing to lose regardless of who's toes they step on. Whether Elon is that person remains to be seen.
 
We have excelled as an economy despite the loss of "good manufacturing jobs." Funny how that works.

Again, Canada may be dependent on us. That dependence grew not because we had a child wanting to take his ball and go home.

The law of unintended consequences is gonna love this. I just hope he doesn't blow our economy up like an Atlantic City Casino.
It can't blow up our economy. If you take the combined amount we export to them and import from them it's 3.6% of our GDP. They get a seat at tables because we invite them not because they belong. They are less than 2% of our GDP in exports.....or about what we grow in a ho hum quarter.

I'm not defending Trumps methods but all the trade war with Canada talk is just like the he is going to start WWIII talk the first time around. If Canada vanished tomorrow we could recover before mid terms. They are a big cold uninhabited buffer. Their greatest asset to us is physical size and the barrier that creates for defense. Trump may blow up the economy but he could literally blow up Canada and it won't do it....
 
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Trump: "Look, the Gaza thing has not worked. It's never worked. And I feel very differently about Gaza than a lot of people. I think they should get a good, fresh, beautiful piece of land. We'll get some people to put up the money to build it and make it nice."

 
Trump on American citizens who are in prisons:

"If we could these animals out of our country and put them in a different country under the supervision of somebody that made a relatively small fee to maintain these people ... we don't want these people in our country."

 
Trump on American citizens who are in prisons:

"If we could these animals out of our country and put them in a different country under the supervision of somebody that made a relatively small fee to maintain these people ... we don't want these people in our country."


Grandpa needs a werthers original and a nap
 
Trump sued due to Musk's federal data breach. Several years ago, I protected myself from fraud when I put my credit on freeze with the 3 credit reporting agencies. If you don't anticipate needing credit, I would suggest doing that.

 
Right....because the DOJ has done such an outstanding job of rooting out corruption thus far. If the DOJ had been doing its job we wouldn't be here. The perfect person to do this job is someone that isn't running for re-election and really has nothing to lose regardless of who's toes they step on. Whether Elon is that person remains to be seen.
So who is running the DOJ now and has the ability to push on it to focus on certain areas?
 

Not ruling out long term ownership of Gaza..?


"President Donald Trump said Tuesday he isn’t ruling out deploying U.S. troops to support reconstruction of Gaza and he envisions “long-term” U.S. ownership of a redevelopment of the territory.

“We’ll do what is necessary,” Trump said about the possibility of deploying troops to fill any security vacuum. “If it’s necessary, we’ll do that.”

The comments came after Trump said he wants the U.S. to take ownership of the Gaza Strip and redevelop it after Palestinians are resettled elsewhere."


Wonder if its related to this:

 
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sorry, but I do not like the idea of anything headed by musk to root out corruption and/or deciding what areas need to be cut or reduce funding...do any of you trust the government to get rid of curruption? is so, cool...if not, why do you trust musk and/or trump to do it??
 
No that's not the answer, but you can't honestly believe that Trump truely cares about getting rid of corruption and conflicts of interest and doing things the right and legal way.
Neither he nor Musk will pull back the curtain.

Trusting, hoping, or believing that those two are champions of transparency is nothing but gullible cheerleading,
 
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The major reason is NAFTA which is a bad deal for us as a whole....cheap avocados and poutine doesn't replace manufacturing jobs. They are set up to ship stuff to us far easier than rest of the world....that change will take longer than it takes for tariffs to bankrupt them and US raiders to come buy them at cents on the dollar. Their largest export in dollars by far is petroleum/gas and again they aren't really set up to ship it to anyone but us....they actually ship it through the US to themselves in cases. Timber and electricity are bolstered by getting around state environmental rules. Wanna know why we get electricity from Canada because states like New York made environmental regs that Canada didn't.....same with logging.....because it's completely different to burn natural gas or cut down 100K acres of trees if they are 200 miles north when considering the climate of the whole Earth.

Canada's 23 GDP was 2.14 T (or less than 10% of ours). They have 2.3 million people of their 16M strong work force employed in jobs tied to exports to the US not counting all the other drivers, shop owners, banks, etc . In 2023 they shipped 440 B to the US.....128B was oil/gas/minerals which we have 52B was vehicles which we used to make....there are only 9 product categories according the the UN that total more than 10B and one is "Commodities not specified by kind" we get more "Precious stones and pearls" you know vital stuff than aluminum or steel.....if a real 25% tariff was put on all goods they don't make it 6 months without a full on depression. Canada is dependent on us. I'm not for the way Trump is going about this and I'm not for a contentious relationship with our next door neighbor but a "trade war" with Canada needs put in the context it belongs.

Their currency dropped 11.5% on the headline. The grown ups in Canada saw that....they may have to talk tough about booze or beaver pelts but a message was sent however haphazardly delivered. I really hope that this exercise cuts through the crap of acting like we are peers and sets the tone for future deals and is the end of it....it rarely is with Trump.
Who negotiated the NAFTA revisions and came up with the USMCA agreement and said it might be the best deal ever….in 2018?

And why in the world would you trust that the person that made those deals can fix them now?
 
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