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The fact that you shrug this off as "trump says a lot of dumb stuff" tells me everything I need to know. Or that I already knew.

We have a president who is talking about sending AMERICANS to foreign jails. We've fallen so far that a large swath of people either agree with it or don't care because "he says dumb stuff a lot".

If I see one more person say they care about the constitution, but aren't actively working to get trump out of office, I'm going to lose it (more than I already have).

This country is absolutely cooked.
I care about the Constitution...
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Yes, I do prefer to be associated with sane posters that engage with positive intent rather than intellectually dishonest posters. But you CONTINUALLY make-up stuff. I’ve never complained about it because I wouldn’t care.

I have just pointed out how you state I say or imply something that I never have. That seems to be the MO by some on this board — just lazy, weak, and pointless. If you want to be lumped in with them so be it, I guess.
This..it's the spin game that I call their little circle jerk. It used to really piss me off. Now it just makes me laugh.
 
This..it's the spin game that I call their little circle jerk. It used to really piss me off. Now it just makes me laugh.
Case in point:

You were supporting/defending Rob, who's position has continuously appeared to be that this man and everyone else there should rot in jail and is where they should be.
I have never insinuated or held the position that everyone there should rot in jail.

Your spin cycle began when 1 man was being portrayed as an innocent immigrant and I brought up the point that he's a wife beating, gang banging, non-citizen of the U.S.

From there the circle j went hog wild.
 
Case in point:


I have never insinuated or held the position that everyone there should rot in jail.

Your spin cycle began when 1 man was being portrayed as an innocent immigrant and I brought up the point that he's a wife beating, gang banging, non-citizen of the U.S.

From there the circle j went hog wild.
Where have you said they should be brought back? If you dont think he should be brought back per court order then what happens? He sits in jail. You've repeatedly said they've given up due process by coming here illegally (not a thing) and it's fine for them to be in jail. You argued semantics early on and made it a point that you weren't against it because someone surely has a conviction in the group.

You keep saying he's a gang banger... but the ONLY thing stating that is not dependable. He's never been convicted or even charged with gang related actions. But I guess in your mind that one claim is enough to make it OK.

He's not even the one I'm most concerned with, he was just the first to come out and the administration admitted it was in error. This poor teenager that sitting there while he and his dad were waiting for a court date pisses me off more. ICE admitted he wasn't who they were looking for but they arrested him anyway. He has no charges ever filed, but was just in front of a building they came up to.
 
Where have you said they should be brought back? If you dont think he should be brought back per court order then what happens? He sits in jail. You've repeatedly said they've given up due process by coming here illegally (not a thing) and it's fine for them to be in jail. You argued semantics early on and made it a point that you weren't against it because someone surely has a conviction in the group.

You keep saying he's a gang banger... but the ONLY thing stating that is not dependable. He's never been convicted or even charged with gang related actions. But I guess in your mind that one claim is enough to make it OK.

He's not even the one I'm most concerned with, he was just the first to come out and the administration admitted it was in error. This poor teenager that sitting there while he and his dad were waiting for a court date pisses me off more. ICE admitted he wasn't who they were looking for but they arrested him anyway. He has no charges ever filed, but was just in front of a building they came up to.
Again, not addressing the point I just proved to you, it's all back to "what have I said that"

Spin spin spin and now you're re-spinning, never just admit you were wrong.
 
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5th Amendment:

"No person....nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

14th Amendment:

"....nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Nowhere in any of that is anything even remotely akin to "sidestepping" or losing the right to due process by violating the law or being here illegally vs. legally.
Looks like JT doesn’t understand either.
 
My goodness you comprehend and interpret incorrectly…or maybe just want to make up stuff. No one has stated that they lost their right to due process.
You really arguing with the Lawyer about the law? You people just can’t believe the people that actually have studied their profession.
 

Now welcome the 20-somethings to OSD. Two young men announced recently that they’re taking posts at the Office of the Secretary of Defense: 23-year-old Royce Chamberlin and 2024 Clemson graduate Amjed Yacu, who spent the remainder of the year interning at the House and Senate.

Neither has any known military experience, and one seems to have inadvertently flubbed his opening announcement. “I am excited and honored to announce I have been appointed to the Office of the Secretary of Defense at the DoD,” Royce—who is the son of Florida state Rep. Ryan Chamberlin—wrote on social media Thursday. He added that he’d be “Helping ensure our country is viewed as a force not to be reckoned with.”

It’s unclear what either will be doing at OSD. But Yacu said Thursday evening in his announcement, “It is a privilege to join Secretary Hegseth's fight to restore faith and transparency within the Department of Defense.” Congratulations, gentlemen; and good luck in your new roles.
To be viewed as a force not to be reckoned with, he surely supports the U. S. bombing Iran sooner or later. I'm still more afraid of nuclear war breaking out than the appalling things Trump has been doing against democracy. He can be brought under control by Democrats retaking Congress in 2026. A nuclear war can quickly escalate once started.
 
You really arguing with the Lawyer about the law? You people just can’t believe the people that actually have studied their profession.
No, I am not arguing about the law. If you would take the time to read posts and think critically you may get it.

Am I calling out someone , like you, who struggles with comprehension, is intellectually dishonest, and repeatedly makes-up stuff and claiming that person said it? Absolutely.
 
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Lawyer Warns Trump Is Moving to Deport Teen to El Salvador for Photo of Water Pistol​

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Can you find a link that pictures an illegal immigrant holding an AK-47 saying he's prepared to join other terrorists in shooting up America as soon as he gets orders, if such a video or photo exists. Furthermore, conspiracy theorists say some also possess surface to air missiles to shoot at planes at airports and other plans to terrorize America. Or maybe such things are fantasy and best they can find is teen with a water pistol.
 
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I think the point of the post was the "make our country a force NOT to be reckoned with" when it should be a force to be reckoned with.
Most (not all) who identify w “Christ is King” in their bios are Christian Nationalists. They take the stance not of Jesus entering Jerusalem on a borrowed donkey but as a true conqueror of people/nations who have no choice but to bend politically and culturally. The trade off is that at least they are “saved.”
 
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