Trump 2024 Run Thread

PF5 said:
most of these presidential rankings, regularly have trump last or near bottom...but for some reason many people want this dude to be our leader again...smh...

New presidential rankings place Obama in top 10, Reagan and Trump below Biden foxnews

A new ranking of presidents by a group of self-styled experts determined that Abraham Lincoln is America's greatest president, while Donald Trump ranks last.

Lincoln topped the list of presidents in the 2024 Presidential Greatness Project expert survey for the third time, following his top spot in the rankings in the 2015 and 2018 versions of the survey.

According to a release from the Presidential Greatness Project, which touts itself as the "foremost organization of social science experts in presidential politics," the 154 respondents to the survey included "current and recent members of the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association…as well as scholars who have recently published peer-reviewed academic research in key related scholarly journals or academic presses."

The respondents were asked to rank presidents on a scale of 0-100, with 0 being a failure, 50 being average and 100 being great. Rounding out the top five in the rankings were Franklin Delano Roosevelt at number two, George Washington at three, Theodore Roosevelt at four, and Thomas Jefferson at five.

Trump was ranked in last place in the survey, being ranked worse than James Buchanan at 44, Andrew Johnson at 43, Franklin Peirce at 42, and William Henry Harrison at 41.

Respondents were also tracked by their political affiliation and ideology, which the release argues did not "tend to make a major difference overall" in the rankings, though there were some outliers, mainly with recent presidents.

Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush and Trump were more likely to be ranked higher by conservatives or Republicans, with Reagan being ranked an average of 5th by Republicans respondents, Bush 19th and Trump 41st. Among Democrat respondents, Reagan was rated an average of 18th, Bush 33rd and Trump 45th.

A similar partisan divide was noticeable for Barack Obama and President Biden, who ranked an average of 6th and 13th, respectively, among Democrat respondents, and 15th and 30th by Republicans. Bill Clinton, a Democrat, was ranked higher by Republican respondents (10th) than he was by Democrats (12th).

The divide resulted in an overall ranking of 7th for Obama, 12th for Clinton, 14th for Biden, 16th for Reagan and 32nd for Bush.
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What exactly is a self styled expert?
 
GOGETUMPOKE said:
What exactly is a self styled expert?
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You really are like the Mango guy and don’t take time to read and look up stuff for yourself. It’s getting old Bob. Google is your friend. Better yet go to YouTube on your smartTV (I realize that means leaving FoxNews or OAN but you can do it) and search “How to use Google”

What’s most interesting about the survey is that the self identified Republican/conservative respondents had Biden ranked +10 spots higher than they did Trump and they ranked Obama >25 points higher than Trump.
 
GOGETUMPOKE said:
What exactly is a self styled expert?
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The 2024 Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey which was conducted from Nov. 15 to Dec. 31, included current and recent members of the Presidents and Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association, which is the foremost organization of social science experts in presidential politics.

the best part was that it was shared by your news site...foxnews...
 
On a scale of 1-100, Trump got a 10... seems about right unless they give bonus points for milking your base out of every penny they have.
 
HacklemanPoke said:
You really are like the Mango guy and don’t take time to read and look up stuff for yourself. It’s getting old Bob. Google is your friend. Better yet go to YouTube on your smartTV (I realize that means leaving FoxNews or OAN but you can do it) and search “How to use Google”

What’s most interesting about the survey is that the self identified Republican/conservative respondents had Biden ranked +10 spots higher than they did Trump and they ranked Obama >25 points higher than Trump.
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Lol. They might as well have gone down to the local coffee shop and asked all of the regulars at the dead dick table what their opinion was. Trump got more votes than your savior Obama ever did in 20 and, if you keep Biden on the ticket and continue with the sham trials , he’s going to make your head explode in November. Great poll. Thanks for the laughs.
 
GOGETUMPOKE said:
Lol. They might as well have gone down to the local coffee shop and asked all of the regulars at the dead dick table what their opinion was. Trump got more votes than your savior Obama ever did in 20 and, if you keep Biden on the ticket and continue with the sham trials , he’s going to make your head explode in November. Great poll. Thanks for the laughs.
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Just a reminder. Trump has never won the popular vote, so comments about getting more votes that a previous president don't really mean much.
 
GOGETUMPOKE said:
Lol. They might as well have gone down to the local coffee shop and asked all of the regulars at the dead dick table what their opinion was. Trump got more votes than your savior Obama ever did in 20 and, if you keep Biden on the ticket and continue with the sham trials , he’s going to make your head explode in November. Great poll. Thanks for the laughs.
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Trump Deification Syndrome.

Chronic sufferer in full denial mode.

Tried like hell to keep the “both sides” facade going, but cracked up in the end and shoved your nose firmly back into Der Trumper’s jock strap.
 
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GOGETUMPOKE said:
Lol. They might as well have gone down to the local coffee shop and asked all of the regulars at the dead dick table what their opinion was. Trump got more votes than your savior Obama ever did in 20 and, if you keep Biden on the ticket and continue with the sham trials , he’s going to make your head explode in November. Great poll. Thanks for the laughs.
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Sham trials my azz. The legal system is working. Trump has been allowed more chances to stall than anyone else in history. You or I would have been in prison for years already. The fact is your cult savior is a damned crook, who cooked the books, and strived to overturn a free and fair election. For the first time in his life he is being held accountable for his lying and illegal actions.
And frankly, damned fools continue to support this lying grifting narcissist . How many pair of Trump shoes have you bought? Each pair purchased for $399.99 buys ten seconds of legal defense fees. Are you a Putin plant or just the ultimate ill informed Trumptard ? What you, and people like you like to pretend, is 100 cars are doing 75 mph in a 25 mph school zone and everyone but Trump gets off without even a warning. It would be laughable if it weren’t so damned stupid.
 
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Good to see nothing has changed here. Was surprised to see 1k posts so I had to check this last page.

From the moon, it appears there’s still an argument about which old rich guy has the moral high ground.

Quick straw poll. Anyone here actually ever talk to either one of these guys?
 
PF5 said:
most of these presidential rankings, regularly have trump last or near bottom...but for some reason many people want this dude to be our leader again...smh...

New presidential rankings place Obama in top 10, Reagan and Trump below Biden foxnews

A new ranking of presidents by a group of self-styled experts determined that Abraham Lincoln is America's greatest president, while Donald Trump ranks last.

Lincoln topped the list of presidents in the 2024 Presidential Greatness Project expert survey for the third time, following his top spot in the rankings in the 2015 and 2018 versions of the survey.

According to a release from the Presidential Greatness Project, which touts itself as the "foremost organization of social science experts in presidential politics," the 154 respondents to the survey included "current and recent members of the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association…as well as scholars who have recently published peer-reviewed academic research in key related scholarly journals or academic presses."

The respondents were asked to rank presidents on a scale of 0-100, with 0 being a failure, 50 being average and 100 being great. Rounding out the top five in the rankings were Franklin Delano Roosevelt at number two, George Washington at three, Theodore Roosevelt at four, and Thomas Jefferson at five.

Trump was ranked in last place in the survey, being ranked worse than James Buchanan at 44, Andrew Johnson at 43, Franklin Peirce at 42, and William Henry Harrison at 41.

Respondents were also tracked by their political affiliation and ideology, which the release argues did not "tend to make a major difference overall" in the rankings, though there were some outliers, mainly with recent presidents.

Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush and Trump were more likely to be ranked higher by conservatives or Republicans, with Reagan being ranked an average of 5th by Republicans respondents, Bush 19th and Trump 41st. Among Democrat respondents, Reagan was rated an average of 18th, Bush 33rd and Trump 45th.

A similar partisan divide was noticeable for Barack Obama and President Biden, who ranked an average of 6th and 13th, respectively, among Democrat respondents, and 15th and 30th by Republicans. Bill Clinton, a Democrat, was ranked higher by Republican respondents (10th) than he was by Democrats (12th).

The divide resulted in an overall ranking of 7th for Obama, 12th for Clinton, 14th for Biden, 16th for Reagan and 32nd for Bush.
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No matter how much of a subject expert you consider yourself, your opinion of a president you lived through is going to be far different than your opinion of someone who was dead decades before you were born.
 
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Llcoolw said:
Good to see nothing has changed here. Was surprised to see 1k posts so I had to check this last page.

From the moon, it appears there’s still an argument about which old rich guy has the moral high ground.

Quick straw poll. Anyone here actually ever talk to either one of these guys?
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Meh
 
Llcoolw said:
Good to see nothing has changed here. Was surprised to see 1k posts so I had to check this last page.

From the moon, it appears there’s still an argument about which old rich guy has the moral high ground.

Quick straw poll. Anyone here actually ever talk to either one of these guys?
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Talk personally with Biden or Trump?

No.
 
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