No. Biden will be outgoing after the election, Trump will only have 1 term. They are both lame ducks at the same time.
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Thats not that bad Bowers, in 4 years, they are both gone. Then we can go on to the next literal hitler and communist.
National Debt Grew by $8.4 Trillion Under Trump, Analysis
National Debt Grew by $8.4 Trillion Under Trump, Analysis Provided by All Things Finance
The CRFB report analyzed how former president Trump added $8.4 trillion during Trump’s one term, which was recently mentioned by Nikki Haley, the only GOP challenger left on his path to the nomination.
Haley stated during the first Republican debate, “You have Ron DeSantis, you have Tim Scott, you have Mike Pence, they all voted to raise the debt, and Donald Trump added $8 trillion to our debt, and our kids are never going to forgive us for this.”
The watchdog group CRFB (the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget) found in a January 2024 analysis that noted, “some of the additional debt accrued was also the direct result of the COVID-19 pandemic and recession.” The report also found that the government had “unusually large $1.6 trillion in cash when President Trump left office.”
Washington’s watchdog group explained that almost all “$8.4 trillion in ten-year debt approved by Trump came in the form of legislation.” The debt was divided into sections, “$3.6 trillion came from COVID relief laws and executive orders, $2.5 trillion from tax cut laws, and $2.3 trillion from spending increases.
Trump’s only deficit was due to tariffs levied on various imported goods, which would accumulate $445 billion over ten years. But Haley is not the Republican who criticized Trump’s accumulation of national debt.
DeSantis Also Spoke About the Issue
The Florida Governor, who recently withdrew from the presidential race, said in September 2023, “Donald Trump added almost $8 trillion to the debt in four years. He ran saying he was going to eliminate the national debt.” DeSantis added, “He did make that promise, and they did the opposite.”
Blaming Both Parties
The Florida Governor also discussed the debt during the Concerned Women for America Summit in Washington, D.C., saying, “Let’s just be clear – we didn’t get $32 trillion in debt just because of one party. It’s been Republicans and Democrats in D.C. who have bankrupted this country.”
Haley Actually Defended President Biden
Haley stated, “The truth is that Biden didn’t do this to us,” adding, “Our Republicans did this to us too. When they passed that $2.2 trillion COVID stimulus bill, they left us with 90 million people on Medicaid and 42 million people on food stamps. No one has told you how to fix it.”
Effects of the Pandemic
According to the Hill, following the pandemic, the U.S. deficit rose to more than 130 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) but has since fallen to 120 percent. Between 2012 and 2020, it was around 100 percent of GDP.
The Debt is $34 Trillion
The national debt hit a record high of $34 trillion. The University of Pennsylvania’s Penn Wharton Budget Model calculated in last year’s research that the U.S. debt held by the public cannot exceed approximately 200% of the GDP. Despite the number, most economists are not worried, though they believe it is time to reflect on the spending.
You’re assuming Trump leaves this time.
He doesn’t have a choice
Didn’t you say that last time? Yes, eventually he left… with chaos in his wake.
I keep saying this. I honestly can’t believe we’re here again.
He’s only gonna be a dictator for the first day.
Trust him.
Hey now, that amendment on two terms is nothing to overcome if you be an indicted felon running for President and be the odds on favorite
UrbanCowboy
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I’ve never thought of you as being naive.
This is a man who’s lawyer just argued that Presidents can kill anyone they want without repercussions unless they are impeached. Like that literally happened last week. And when questioned about it, Trumps only response was “Presidents should have immunity from actions.”
It’s like we’re living in bizarro world. You’re a rational dude, but the contortions some of y’all make are just wild.
I’m with Duke here. Trump may try to rile up his internet army again and maybe even barricade himself in the White House. But in Jan 7 2029 he will not be president, have no authority as such, and would at that point be just a former president needing to be escorted out.
Yes, this is from HuffPost, but it’s written pretty well and cites mostly Republicans weighing in on this.
Why Would Trump Leave Office After A Second Term If Prison Awaits? Experts Fear He Won’t.
Trump attempted a coup to hang on to power at the end of his first term, and that was before he faced multiple prosecutions that could bring decades behind bars.
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OAN Sent Trump Lawyer Private Information on Smartmatic Employees After 2020 Election
Voting technology company Smartmatic is suing right-wing news network One America News for defamation, and new evidence points to a direct connection with former President Donald Trump.
According to a report by CNN’s Marshall Cohen, an email exchange dated January 8, 2021, between OAN president Charles Herring and Trump lawyer Sidney Powell, who is also being sued by Smartmatic as well as other individuals tied to Trump for spreading lies about the 2020 election, purportedly contained a spreadsheet full of passwords for employees of Smartmatic.
The court records don’t reveal how OAN obtained the spreadsheet, but their being in possession of it could potentially mean that OAN executives “may have engaged in criminal activities” by “appear[ing] to have violated state and federal laws regarding data privacy”:
Smartmatic is seeking billions of dollars in damages from OAN and Fox News after the networks falsely claimed that the company flipped votes during the 2020 election in favor of President Joe Biden. In a separate defamation lawsuit by Dominion Voting Systems, Fox News avoided a trial with a massive $787.5 million settlement.
Trump rips UAW and its President after UAW endorses Biden for 2024 and takes swipes at Trump in Face the Nation Interview.
Trump also threatens new Tariffs on every thing auto related not built in the US.
Trump, in a Truth Social post Sunday, said he watched Fain’s interview with CBS News’s “Face the Nation” earlier in the day, in which the UAW leader took multiple swipes at the former president.
The former president called Fain a “STIFF” who is helping sell the automobile industry “right into the big, powerful hands of China.”
“[Fain] bought into Biden’s ‘vision’ of all Electric Vehicles, which require far fewer workers to make each car but, more importantly, are not wanted in large numbers by the consumer, and will ALL be made in China,” Trump continued, in reference to the Biden administration’s push toward electric vehicles (EVs).
“I want them to be made in the USA, every type of car, and would require China, and other countries, through TARIFFS, or otherwise, to build plants here, with our workers. Now they are building in Mexico, the biggest plants anywhere, and selling their cars, Tariff Free, into the good ol’ USA. Shawn Fain doesn’t understand this or have a clue. Get rid of this dope & vote for DJT. I will bring the Automobile Industry back to our Country,” he added.
Fain, earlier Sunday, spoke with CBS News about the union’s endorsement of Biden and touted the president’s support of the UAW’s efforts, especially in its recent strike against the Big Three automakers.
“When you look at these two candidates, you know, Joe Biden has a history of serving others, and serving the working class, and fighting for the working class, standing with the working class,” Fain said Sunday. “Donald Trump has a history of serving himself and standing for the billionaire class. And that’s contrary to everything that working class people stand for.”
The union formally endorsed Biden’s reelection campaign last week. Fain at the time called Trump a “scab.”
“Donald Trump is a billionaire, and that’s who he represents. If Donald Trump ever worked in an auto plant, he wouldn’t be a UAW member,” Fain said. “He’d be a company man trying to squeeze the American worker. Donald Trump stands against everything we stand for as a union.”
The formal endorsement was somewhat delayed amidst the union’s concerns the Biden administration’s push for a transition to electric vehicles could take away industry jobs.
Fain said Sunday that the UAW “has always been at the forefront of environmental issues, and of working class issues.”
“The biggest thing to us is, no matter which way we go on this, we’re gonna have security for our members and for the working class people,” Fain continued, pointing to the assurances in the UAW’s new contract. “So we’re not afraid of where we’re headed, no matter where this industry goes.”
Trump has repeatedly targeted the Biden administration’s EV policies along the campaign trail and claimed in September the polices will make it so “the Great State of Michigan will not have an auto industry anymore.”
The Biden-Harris campaign responded to Trump’s latest attack Sunday, taking a jab at the former president using Fain’s “scab” remark.
“So…apparently losing the UAW endorsement to Joe Biden has left Donald Trump’s wounded ego with quite the SCAB,” Biden-Harris 2024 communications director Michael Tyler wrote in a statement.
Trump also threatens new Tariffs on every thing auto related not built in the US.
Trump rips UAW president: ‘Get rid of this dope’'
Former President Trump dug into United Auto Workers (UAW) President Shawn Fain on Sunday for his endorsement of President Biden, arguing the union leader does not “understand” the future of the automobile industry.Trump, in a Truth Social post Sunday, said he watched Fain’s interview with CBS News’s “Face the Nation” earlier in the day, in which the UAW leader took multiple swipes at the former president.
The former president called Fain a “STIFF” who is helping sell the automobile industry “right into the big, powerful hands of China.”
“[Fain] bought into Biden’s ‘vision’ of all Electric Vehicles, which require far fewer workers to make each car but, more importantly, are not wanted in large numbers by the consumer, and will ALL be made in China,” Trump continued, in reference to the Biden administration’s push toward electric vehicles (EVs).
“I want them to be made in the USA, every type of car, and would require China, and other countries, through TARIFFS, or otherwise, to build plants here, with our workers. Now they are building in Mexico, the biggest plants anywhere, and selling their cars, Tariff Free, into the good ol’ USA. Shawn Fain doesn’t understand this or have a clue. Get rid of this dope & vote for DJT. I will bring the Automobile Industry back to our Country,” he added.
Fain, earlier Sunday, spoke with CBS News about the union’s endorsement of Biden and touted the president’s support of the UAW’s efforts, especially in its recent strike against the Big Three automakers.
“When you look at these two candidates, you know, Joe Biden has a history of serving others, and serving the working class, and fighting for the working class, standing with the working class,” Fain said Sunday. “Donald Trump has a history of serving himself and standing for the billionaire class. And that’s contrary to everything that working class people stand for.”
The union formally endorsed Biden’s reelection campaign last week. Fain at the time called Trump a “scab.”
“Donald Trump is a billionaire, and that’s who he represents. If Donald Trump ever worked in an auto plant, he wouldn’t be a UAW member,” Fain said. “He’d be a company man trying to squeeze the American worker. Donald Trump stands against everything we stand for as a union.”
The formal endorsement was somewhat delayed amidst the union’s concerns the Biden administration’s push for a transition to electric vehicles could take away industry jobs.
Fain said Sunday that the UAW “has always been at the forefront of environmental issues, and of working class issues.”
“The biggest thing to us is, no matter which way we go on this, we’re gonna have security for our members and for the working class people,” Fain continued, pointing to the assurances in the UAW’s new contract. “So we’re not afraid of where we’re headed, no matter where this industry goes.”
Trump has repeatedly targeted the Biden administration’s EV policies along the campaign trail and claimed in September the polices will make it so “the Great State of Michigan will not have an auto industry anymore.”
The Biden-Harris campaign responded to Trump’s latest attack Sunday, taking a jab at the former president using Fain’s “scab” remark.
“So…apparently losing the UAW endorsement to Joe Biden has left Donald Trump’s wounded ego with quite the SCAB,” Biden-Harris 2024 communications director Michael Tyler wrote in a statement.
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