The Death Spiral

[RxCowboy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1640024334688468993

I've said for years now that our politics is in a death spiral that we can't get out of. Every time one party does something stupid to the other party, the other party ups the ante on the stupid. When Trump was elected the Dems were talking impeachment before he took office. It was utterly ridiculous. Now we have this idiotic DA Bragg who is trying to take a local misdemeanor and trying to bootstrap federal law to make it a felony and if successful it damn near guarantees that every president from now on is going to be prosecuted for something. It just isn't going to stop.

 

[swamppoke]

C'mon, man! Joe is the great "UNIFYER" He'll get it done, and come out smelling like roses!

 

[RxCowboy]

C'mon, man! Joe is the great "UNIFYER" He'll get it done, and come out smelling like roses!

It isn't about Joe, it's about wanting to return the favor and impeach Joe. That's the spiral.

 

[MustangPokeFan]

Well what the Dems just did this afternoon in a politically motivated perversion of the law to indict a former President sure upped the ante. They’d better pray Trump doesn’t get elected because payback is going to be nuclear!

 

[andylicious]

We are officially a banana republic.

 

[gopokes83]

I’m so damn sick of the whole “Us vs them” bullshit from both parties. Some Dem says we shouldn’t let TicToc (China) openly spy on us and steal our information? Seems kinda like something we should consider… but since it’s a Dem, immediately every Republican must be rabidly opposed to it and hit the network talking points as vehemently as possible! Same deal with the Democrats. We get absolutely nothing worthwhile done, and it’s a never ending cycle! Something has to change, but hating the other guy is good for business if you’re a political party!


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[RxCowboy]

Well what the Dems just did this afternoon in a politically motivated perversion of the law to indict a former President sure upped the ante. They’d better pray Trump doesn’t get elected because payback is going to be nuclear!

The only thing that will keep Biden from being indicted once he's out of office is the fact that he's 80 and he likely won't live long enough to see the indictment. Further down the death spiral we go...

 

[RxCowboy]

I’m so damn sick of the whole “Us vs them” bullshit from both parties. Some Dem says we shouldn’t let TicToc (China) openly spy on us and steal our information? Seems kinda like something we should consider… but since it’s a Dem, immediately every Republican must be rabidly opposed to it and hit the network talking points as vehemently as possible! Same deal with the Democrats. We get absolutely nothing worthwhile done, and it’s a never ending cycle! Something has to change, but hating the other guy is good for business if you’re a political party!


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You got it backwards, AOC said TikTok is just fine and we shouldn't ban it. Of course, her PAC is getting money from China, but you aren't supposed to see that.

 

[RxCowboy]

Guilty until proven innocent...

 

[HacklemanPoke]

Late October 2020 a mere 2.5 weeks before the campaign Trump is asking the AG to indict his opponent Joe Biden. In 2016 Trump said to lock up his opponent.

Bottom line. Don’t rawdog pornstars. Don’t pay hush money (especially 2 weeks before an election). Don’t fraudulently report it in your company books. If he does none of those things he isn’t indicted in New York today.

 

[Duke Silver]

Late October 2020 a mere 2.5 weeks before the campaign Trump is asking the AG to indict his opponent Joe Biden. In 2016 Trump said to lock up his opponent.

Bottom line. Don’t rawdog pornstars. Don’t pay hush money (especially 2 weeks before an election). Don’t fraudulently report it in your company books. If he does none of those things he isn’t indicted in New York today.

I'm pretty sure he never went near stormy daniels. Like many celebrities he was extorted and it costs less to pay than to fight.

 

[HacklemanPoke]

There are pictures of trump and stormy on the day they met which is where the alleged relationship started. There is an nda which trump’s camp publicly declined to enforce. There is another alleged relationship between Trump and a former playmate model named Karen McDougal which resulted in $150,000 being paid to McDougal by trumps longtime friend Pecker (wired name right?) who owned the national enquirer. Said payment was for exclusive rights to publish her story detailing her alleged affair w trump but the story was never published. In addition she was promised that she could write lifestyle type articles for the magazine but that was never pursued by the magazine.

Interesting fact about the 2 situations. After the 2016 election and details coming out thereafter both women independent of each other shared details about a Beverly Hills hotel’s suite where the alleged incidents took place. They also explain how trump wooed them w promises to appear on celebrity apprentice. So independently and without collusion both women describe similar events.

Also for this grand jury Pecker (Donald’s former friend and owner of the enquirer) gave testimony to the grand jury. While it’s not known to what he testified it’s rumored that he verified at least McDougal’s story along w other stories where payments were made and he effectively killed the stories. His testimony is supposed to corroborate what Michael Cohen testified to on how trump covered up stories and then reimbursed out of trump inc.

This is where the charges will most likely stem from. Trump reimbursed people who paid to cover up alleged affairs and did so out of company books which could lead to fraud charges and then throw in felony conspiracy charges.

You are right in the sense we don’t know if Trump had any affairs w Stormy or McDougal. But he cheated on his first wife w his second wife and cheated on his second wife with his third wife.

Also on the stormy Daniel’s front. The infamous access Hollywood tape where trump bragged about assaulting women occurred in early October 2016. Trump was in real danger of losing key evangelical leadership support and endorsement, the hush money payment to stormy from cohen was made on 10/27/16. If that story came out 10 days before the election trump would most certainly have lost key evangelical support.

Bottom line don’t live your life like that and then compound your situation by acting illegally.

Don’t blame the Democrats, blame the one man that caused this.

 

[Duke Silver]

There are pictures of trump and stormy on the day they met which is where the alleged relationship started. There is an nda which trump’s camp publicly declined to enforce. There is another alleged relationship between Trump and a former playmate model named Karen McDougal which resulted in $150,000 being paid to McDougal by trumps longtime friend Pecker (wired name right?) who owned the national enquirer. Said payment was for exclusive rights to publish her story detailing her alleged affair w trump but the story was never published. In addition she was promised that she could write lifestyle type articles for the magazine but that was never pursued by the magazine.

Interesting fact about the 2 situations. Prior to the 2016 election and details coming out thereafter both women independent of each other shared details about a Beverly Hills hotel’s suite where the alleged incidents took place. They also explain how trump wooed them w promises to appear on celebrity apprentice. So independently and without collusion both women describe similar events.

Also for this grand jury Pecker (Donald’s former friend and owner of the enquirer) gave testimony to the grand jury. While it’s not known to what he testified it’s rumored that he verified at least McDougal’s story along w other stories where payments were made and he effectively killed the stories. His testimony is supposed to corroborate what Michael Cohen testified to on how trump covered up stories and then reimbursed out of trump inc.

This is where the charges will most likely stem from. Trump reimbursed people who paid to cover up alleged affairs and did so out of company books which could lead to fraud charges and then throw in felony conspiracy charges.

You are right in the sense we don’t know if Trump had any affairs w Stormy or McDougal. But he cheated on his first wife w his second wife and cheated on his second wife with his third wife.

Also on the stormy Daniel’s front. The infamous access Hollywood tape where trump bragged about assaulting women occurred in early October 2016. Trump was in real danger of losing key evangelical leadership support and endorsement, the hush money payment to stormy from cohen was made on 10/27/16. If that story came out 10 days before the election trump would most certainly have lost key evangelical support.

Bottom line don’t live your life like that and then compound your situation by acting illegally.

Don’t blame the Democrats, blame the one man that caused this.

Oh I would bet my life the McDougal one happened. I am as certain the other way with daniels.

 

[RxCowboy]

Late October 2020 a mere 2.5 weeks before the campaign Trump is asking the AG to indict his opponent Joe Biden. In 2016 Trump said to lock up his opponent.

Bottom line. Don’t rawdog pornstars. Don’t pay hush money (especially 2 weeks before an election). Don’t fraudulently report it in your company books. If he does none of those things he isn’t indicted in New York today.

People sign NDAs every damn day. I’ve signed a couple. They are a routine part of business. Stop acting like they are something sinister.


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[Duke Silver]

People sign NDAs every damn day. I’ve signed a couple. They are a routine part of business. Stop acting like they are something sinister.


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I hate having to defend this dude.

 

[Vakarian74]

I hate having to defend this dude.

No you don’t you defended just about everything he’s ever done.

 

[Duke Silver]

No you don’t you defended just about everything he’s ever done.

Ok. Where?

 

[HacklemanPoke]

People sign NDAs every damn day. I’ve signed a couple. They are a routine part of business. Stop acting like they are something sinister.


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I’ve signed plenty of NDAs and CAs and have required plenty to be signed. Never made a qualifier that there was anything sinister about them. In my experience they perform as they are named in order to prevent information from being disclosed or to keep information confidential.

In this case trump didn’t want any information disclosed. It worked until it didn’t.

Bottom line. Don’t dip your wick in another company’s ink and then falsify business records or engage in conspiratorial acts in the commission thereof. No one forced him to do any of those things if that is indeed what he did.

Why is it ok for him to publicly ask the US AG to indict Biden 2 weeks before the 2020 election and then everyone claims the country is ruined when trump is indicted by at least 12 of his peers? If Biden has acted illegally and the evidence supports such then convene a grand jury. Call witnesses and indict if appropriate once he leaves office.

Bottom line. Don’t engage in “crimey” sh!+.

 

[Vakarian74]

Ok. Where?

Well most of it was on the last site.

 

[Duke Silver]

I’ve signed plenty of NDAs and CAs and have required plenty to be signed. Never made a qualifier that there was anything sinister about them. In my experience they perform as they are named in order to prevent information from being disclosed or to keep information confidential.

In this case trump didn’t want any information disclosed. It worked until it didn’t.

Bottom line. Don’t dip your wick in another company’s ink and then falsify business records or engage in conspiratorial acts in the commission thereof. No one forced him to do any of those things if that is indeed what he did.

Why is it ok for him to publicly ask the US AG to indict Biden 2 weeks before the 2020 election and then everyone claims the country is ruined when trump is indicted by at least 12 of his peers? If Biden has acted illegally and the evidence supports such then convene a grand jury. Call witnesses and indict if appropriate once he leaves office.

Bottom line. Don’t engage in “crimey” sh!+.

We better all hope that it is all real and he is guilty and found guilty because then not even a president is above the law. If it's the other way around and this is a show me the man and I'll show you the crime, then we are done. America is over.