Georgia Poke
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This board isn’t happy unless it’s miserable.
OC and DC Possibilities - New DC Todd Grantham, OC Doug Meacham
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This board isn’t happy unless it’s miserable.
IronCodePoke
New member
3-9 will kinda do that, on any board
What a silly take. You don't think it had to do with who we hired instead of Meacham at the time? Or that something could have changed in the last 12 years?
Here’s some half ass Internet research.These are teams that had zero wins in conference play. I’m not including Penn and Alabama who were both winless in their conference in the 50’s. The year shown was the winless year and the subsequent fallout.
2015 Kansas Beaty’s first year was winless and we know how that ended.
2015 UCF O’Leary resigned after 8 games. 2016 Scott Frost got them to 4-4 and took off from there only to crash and burn at Nebraska.
2017 UTEP Sean Kugler fired five games in and Mike Price took over. 2018 HC Dana Dimel went 1-7
2019 Akron. Tom Arth winless in first season was fired 9 games into 3rd season
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zone2poke
Ranger
I totally agree with this. These are not inspiring hires. But whatever they’ve done in the past, for me they have a clean slate here and I hope they do well. I feel like Oklahoma State should be a place where really good coaches want to come and succeed. But maybe I’m over ranking my alma mater, as usually happens.
Yes, yes you are, but every fan of every school agrees with you.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bill-belichicks-salary-north-carolina-220507681.html
You’ve got to imagine that HC contracts are going to look a lot like Belicheck’s deal:
$1.5 million allowance for GM salary. Bama paid $825k this year for this position fwiw.
$13 million for NIL-working under the assumption that the judge rules in April that players can be classified as employees.
$10 million budget for assistants.
$1.5 million for S&C.
Hard to believe how rapidly this sport’s changing. One can only hope that our leadership is on top of this, because we know the head coach isn’t.
You’ve got to imagine that HC contracts are going to look a lot like Belicheck’s deal:
$1.5 million allowance for GM salary. Bama paid $825k this year for this position fwiw.
$13 million for NIL-working under the assumption that the judge rules in April that players can be classified as employees.
$10 million budget for assistants.
$1.5 million for S&C.
Hard to believe how rapidly this sport’s changing. One can only hope that our leadership is on top of this, because we know the head coach isn’t.
It's nice to see someone being reasonable about this. I'm disappointed in the OC choice as I thought we were going to get someone more innovative but I agree-none of us are sitting here saying who? or googling some school no one has heard of. That's better than what we've had recently.
We think it is. Pretty long list of guys like we hired who are just past their prime, but maybe Grantham is Knowles, we’ll see.
mugatu
Ranger
True. At least we know that both coordinators at least have experience at this level. Not excited but they also are kind of safe for the most part.
I'm really hoping position coaches are quality and we turn things around on the incoming players.
Oregon on game 2 next year could be ugly.
That might have been the case regardless of all this.
mugatu
Ranger
I keep trying to figure out what results are acceptable and should be expected and I think I am at first year of >.500 in conf play (no big blowout losses) and 2nd year in hunt for conf champ game. Otherwise the seat at the top needs to stay hot. We can't survive being a middling program going forward.
If coaching hires this year get us on that path then I'm all for it, but if they don't then we need to not drag things out.
MustangPokeFan
Deputy
And to be fair and completely honest, this board was going ballistic when Knowles was hired and going on and on about hiring some guy from Duke when other people they were wanting to be hired were passed over. Knowles wasn’t an instant success. It took about three years for him to turn it around. I say give Grantham and Meachem both a chance. They’ll either turn into a Knowles and a Monken or they’ll fall on their faces. It doesn’t encourage the former to happen if they don’t have support.
That’s the life of a cowboy baby
You mean you would actually shoot old yeller
I'd be happy if we just played more aggressively and recruited (bought) at least 1-2 guys per squad that could play lockdown press man.
Uhh, Doug, the dude, married a girl that Georgia poke had gone to school with. Hence, my question....You ever nail her.
