Middle East

[Polds4OSU]

Trump was like . How can I out Benghazi, Benghazi


Trump admits there were no evacuation plans for Americans abroad due to his war with Iran "because it all happened very quickly."

Kyle Griffin (@griffinkyle) on Threads

Trump admits there were no evacuation plans for Americans abroad due to his war with Iran "because it all happened very quickly."

www.threads.com

 

[Polds4OSU]

Soooo... revenge


President Donald Trump for the first time acknowledged a personal dimension to his decision to attack Iran, citing the country’s efforts to assassinate him in 2024 as a factor in ordering the joint U.S.-Israeli operation that killed Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. https://wapo.st/4l1yGzq

 

[cowboyinexile]

Lindsey Graham: "I'm calling on President Trump today -- join Israel to attack Hezbollah ... fly with Israel"

Aaron Rupar (@aaron.rupar) on Threads

Lindsey Graham: "I'm calling on President Trump today -- join Israel to attack Hezbollah ... fly with Israel"

www.threads.com

Lindsay Graham hasn't been this happy since Ricky Martin came out

 

[Polds4OSU]

Just days before the United States launched a major military operation in Iran, FBI Director Kash Patel fired a dozen agents and staff members from a counterintelligence unit tasked with monitoring threats from Iran, according to two sources familiar with the matter. https://cnn.it/4086dOT

 

[Pokey]

Just days before the United States launched a major military operation in Iran, FBI Director Kash Patel fired a dozen agents and staff members from a counterintelligence unit tasked with monitoring threats from Iran, according to two sources familiar with the matter. https://cnn.it/4086dOT

Republicans: let’s completely destroy the USA we used to know Being totally subservient to tRump but NOT the Constitution.

 

[osuwhit]

When it comes to elected officials, I agree with you that AIPAC funding is pretty bipartisan with around 80% of elected officials on the take.

When it comes to the base, AIPAC is very unpopular amongst registered dems and a majority of independents.

Good. Hopefully, they start voting like it soon.

 

[Rob B.]

The sad thing about him trawling the MAGAsphere for support is that he adopts arguments that aren't even historically accurate....in fact WILDLY INCORRECT.

The picture of people protesting war with Hitler almost certainly shows members of the America First Committee.

America First....ring a bell for modern times?

Anyways.....the most prominent members of the America First Committee were:

Charles Lindbergh......REPUBLICAN.

General Robert E. Wood.....REPUBLICAN.

Henry Ford....ran for Senate as a REPUBLICAN in 1918, lost the primary and ran in the General Election as a Democrat. Won the 1916 Presidential primary in Michigan as a REPUBLICAN. Also threw his support behind Calvin Coolidge....a REPUBLICAN.

And there is the simple fact that it was a Democrat President that declared war on Hitler and advocated for the Lend Lease agreement with Britain and wanted to be in the war with Britain well before we actually declared war on Japan and Germany.

He's not even making his own arguments. He's just cutting and pasting his compatriots from the MAGAsphere.

You mean like this? Break this one down for me.

 

[osuwhit]

if this wasn´t so serious, it would be quite comical...

Trump says ‘worst case scenario’ in Iran is new leader worse than Khamenei the hill

...
“I guess the worst case would be we do this and then somebody takes over who’s as bad as the previous person, right? That could happen, we don’t want that to happen, it would probably be the worst,” Trump told reporters.

“You go through this and then in five years you realize you’ve put someone in who is no better. So, we’d like to see somebody in there who’s going to bring it back for the people,” the president added.
...
Trump on Tuesday said he’d had a few people in mind to take over the country but noted all of them were dead.

“We had some in mind from that group that is dead. And now we have another group. They may be dead also based on reports,” the president told reporters.

“So, I guess you have a third wave coming in. Pretty soon, we’re not going to know anybody,” he added.

Exiled Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi’s name has emerged as a potential contender to take the helm of leadership in Iran but Trump largely ruled out the idea.

“Some people like him, and we haven’t been thinking too much about that. It would seem to me that somebody from within, maybe would be more appropriate,” Trump said when asked about Pahlavi, who lives in the U.S.

 

[osuwhit]

Is this real life?

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[cowboyinexile]

You mean like this? Break this one down for me.

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You got anything besides a meme to support that?

And to be fair Im sure somewhere there are people upset and protesting the dudes death. But it's not widespread or even really visible like you seem to think. The bigger arguments have to do with asking if the president had the constitutional authority to do so and the overall lack of strategy surrounding the conflict.

At the end of the day a really bad man is dead so Im not going to argue if he should have. What's done is done.

The issue I have is the overall lack of competence at the highest levels of government and how they are handling it. We have the most advanced military in the world and our capabilities at taking him out were never in doubt. But we also:

1. Underestimated their ability to retaliate to the point where we left troops in the region unprotected and that resulted in the loss of American lives. We could have more than easily made sure defense installations in the region had proper defensive capabilities and if not moved troops to areas that did. American deaths in Iran's initial salvo are on the hands of the administration and no one seems to care. It was incompetence to the point that I question if it was intentional.

2. Aside from Israel and ME nations we have spent decades strongarming we seem to have no allies in this conflict. The rest of NATO is out and we have no one to blame but ourselves. Instead of a moment of reflection as to why allies want nothing to do with us, the administration seems intent on trying to strong-arm them to the point of potentially escalating the conflict. Threatening to sever economic ties with an EU nation that has been an ally for 4 decades because they are upset at us for behaving like a bully for the last year plus-whose fault is it that they don't want to assist us with use of their bases? And to top it off we turn around and threaten military action against them. These aren't the actions of a nation trying to spread peace to a region.

3. We have seemingly abandoned citizens in the region. I don't know if the administration forgot that US citizens live and travel in the middle east ot if they just don't care. If Iranian terrorists or freedom fighters start kidnapping and murdering Americans in the area will we do anything? Heck will Trump ask them who they voted for before lifting a finger. The fact that him bringing up political persuasion isn't hyperbole but a possible concern before helping Americans is insane but we all know it can happen.

4. We seemingly have no real justification for war. You have given us random reasons but no one really knows why we did it. No one believes they were close to achieving nuclear capabilities. The administration themselves said they bombed their nuclear infrastructure back to the stone age last summer. I don't believe that either but I don't think we were 100% ineffective there. Trump, Hegseth, and Rubio have all given different answers and then denied or deflected when questioned about it. Wars have reasons for happening-they may be bad reasons but they exist. This doesn't seem to have one yet other than Israel wanted to do it and we just went along for the ride.

5. There is no exit (or any) strategy. We bomb the crap out of them and then what? Trump hasn't ruled out boots on the ground so a physical invasion is on the table. We seem to want regime change but haven't really thought about what that looks like. We have offered amnesty to their military but considering how this administration treats those it perceives as enemies and how we treated allies on the ground in other countries in the middle east I don't see any of them throwing down their arms right away. Trump has said the pep need to rise up but if we are pounding everything in air strikes how are they supposed to do that? Will we set up a puppet government because that always works. There is just no real strategy here and I don't think we have the leadership at the executive cabinet level capable of executing it even if we had one. Heck, we spent a year purging military leadership of perceived disloyal generals-do we have anyone left like Patraeus or Schwarzkopf capable of managing a territory that doesn't want us there if we do invade?

I could go on but Im already way beyond tldr territory. The short version is this has been an incredibly short sighted military campaign with no goals aside from shoot the bad guy and I don't see how even with the death of an evil man I don't see how the Iranian people or the world are safer now.

 

[Polds4OSU]

Senator Richard Blumenthal just came out of a briefing moments ago with Trump officials and said: "I am more fearful than ever after this briefing that we may be putting boots on the ground."

https://www.threads.com/@aaronparnas/post/DVcHKXvEb87?xmt=AQF04N2TMuPeyqQ0m20q_-UkwP8DrnEOk7MKfDYsrQLTYx_jyfIPcqu4Q8sN6nQAvphiX83q&slof=1

 

[Polds4OSU]

Sen. Murphy: “There will be more Americans killed…They have contempt for the American people because they think that they can carry out the biggest war in the Middle East since Iraq and Afghanistan without a single vote.”

https://www.threads.com/@bulwarkonline/post/DVcMfrxCMtd?xmt=AQF0zJKKj18RXZJXTcmpOb5d2tFSNw2tI7dnhmwX0sH1K4Vf8_V0-ozTNTf2o4neE4Xw9N1X&slof=1

 

[Polds4OSU]

A suspected Iranian drone hit the CIA’s station at the U.S. Embassy in Saudi Arabia, according to two people familiar with the matter.

The strikes come as Iran widens retaliation across the Middle East in the wake of the U.S.-Israeli bombing campaign.

https://www.threads.com/@washingtonpost/post/DVcNb4gkZyX?xmt=AQF0qMpqYCqdJeWZm8t-dzDmkDW1wJ07cx9sir3WeEkWv7LZvq3LrqigQHKIUuOSyCWbZoKk&slof=1

 

[Polds4OSU]

“The only president in history who, in the third day of a war, is talking to the world about drapes that he chose.” Lawerence O’Donnell absolutely rips into Trump for talking about his gold drapes and ballroom as war rages on and American deaths mount.

Mike Sington (@mikesington) on Threads

“The only president in history who, in the third day of a war, is talking to the world about drapes that he chose.” Lawerence O’Donnell absolutely rips into Trump for talking about his gold drapes and ballroom as war rages on and American deaths mount.

www.threads.com

 

[Polds4OSU]

Trump Blames Obama And Biden For Iran War In Wild Social Media Rant
The president later grumbled about the “Radical Left Democrats” who disapprove of his decision, which is expected to be a lengthy military operation.

Trump Blames Obama And Biden For Iran War In Wild Social Media Rant

The president later grumbled about the “Radical Left Democrats” who disapprove of his decision, which is expected to be a lengthy military operation.

www.huffpost.com

 

[cowboyinexile]

Trump Blames Obama And Biden For Iran War In Wild Social Media Rant
The president later grumbled about the “Radical Left Democrats” who disapprove of his decision, which is expected to be a lengthy military operation.

Trump Blames Obama And Biden For Iran War In Wild Social Media Rant

The president later grumbled about the “Radical Left Democrats” who disapprove of his decision, which is expected to be a lengthy military operation.

www.huffpost.com

Why did Obama and Biden bomb Iran?

 

[Rob B.]

You got anything besides a meme to support that?

And to be fair Im sure somewhere there are people upset and protesting the dudes death. But it's not widespread or even really visible like you seem to think. The bigger arguments have to do with asking if the president had the constitutional authority to do so and the overall lack of strategy surrounding the conflict.

At the end of the day a really bad man is dead so Im not going to argue if he should have. What's done is done.

The issue I have is the overall lack of competence at the highest levels of government and how they are handling it. We have the most advanced military in the world and our capabilities at taking him out were never in doubt. But we also:

1. Underestimated their ability to retaliate to the point where we left troops in the region unprotected and that resulted in the loss of American lives. We could have more than easily made sure defense installations in the region had proper defensive capabilities and if not moved troops to areas that did. American deaths in Iran's initial salvo are on the hands of the administration and no one seems to care. It was incompetence to the point that I question if it was intentional.

2. Aside from Israel and ME nations we have spent decades strongarming we seem to have no allies in this conflict. The rest of NATO is out and we have no one to blame but ourselves. Instead of a moment of reflection as to why allies want nothing to do with us, the administration seems intent on trying to strong-arm them to the point of potentially escalating the conflict. Threatening to sever economic ties with an EU nation that has been an ally for 4 decades because they are upset at us for behaving like a bully for the last year plus-whose fault is it that they don't want to assist us with use of their bases? And to top it off we turn around and threaten military action against them. These aren't the actions of a nation trying to spread peace to a region.

3. We have seemingly abandoned citizens in the region. I don't know if the administration forgot that US citizens live and travel in the middle east ot if they just don't care. If Iranian terrorists or freedom fighters start kidnapping and murdering Americans in the area will we do anything? Heck will Trump ask them who they voted for before lifting a finger. The fact that him bringing up political persuasion isn't hyperbole but a possible concern before helping Americans is insane but we all know it can happen.

4. We seemingly have no real justification for war. You have given us random reasons but no one really knows why we did it. No one believes they were close to achieving nuclear capabilities. The administration themselves said they bombed their nuclear infrastructure back to the stone age last summer. I don't believe that either but I don't think we were 100% ineffective there. Trump, Hegseth, and Rubio have all given different answers and then denied or deflected when questioned about it. Wars have reasons for happening-they may be bad reasons but they exist. This doesn't seem to have one yet other than Israel wanted to do it and we just went along for the ride.

5. There is no exit (or any) strategy. We bomb the crap out of them and then what? Trump hasn't ruled out boots on the ground so a physical invasion is on the table. We seem to want regime change but haven't really thought about what that looks like. We have offered amnesty to their military but considering how this administration treats those it perceives as enemies and how we treated allies on the ground in other countries in the middle east I don't see any of them throwing down their arms right away. Trump has said the pep need to rise up but if we are pounding everything in air strikes how are they supposed to do that? Will we set up a puppet government because that always works. There is just no real strategy here and I don't think we have the leadership at the executive cabinet level capable of executing it even if we had one. Heck, we spent a year purging military leadership of perceived disloyal generals-do we have anyone left like Patraeus or Schwarzkopf capable of managing a territory that doesn't want us there if we do invade?

I could go on but Im already way beyond tldr territory. The short version is this has been an incredibly short sighted military campaign with no goals aside from shoot the bad guy and I don't see how even with the death of an evil man I don't see how the Iranian people or the world are safer now.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/03/world/video/iran-anti-war-protests-pro-war-demonstrations-elex-michaelson-rdr-cnni-030312aseg2-fast

Protesters across the US demonstrate against strikes on Iran

People rallied across American cities on Saturday, with additional protests planned for later.

www.bbc.com

 

[HacklemanPoke]

You mean like this? Break this one down for me.

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@Rob B. its good to see you speaking out against Marge, Massie, Fuentes and other Magastanis who have spoken out against Trump’s decision in recent days.

That is what you are meant by posting this right? Is that the breakdown you are looking for?

 

[CowboyJD]

You mean like this? Break this one down for me.

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Yep, exactly like that.

Another strawman.

Another inaccurate missive from MAGAstan posted without any critical thought or analysis.

People aren’t protesting the death of the Ayatollah.

As @cowboyinexile noted they’re protesting what the believe is another unwarranted, unlawful, II-conceived foreign war without a Congressional declaration from a President that literally campaigned on no more foreign wars.

And many of them are MAGA that have started to think for themselves.

It’s the first step towards cult deprogramming.

 

[Big Huck]

Yep, exactly like that.

Another strawman.

Another inaccurate missive from MAGAstan posted without any critical thought or analysis.

People aren’t protesting the death of the Ayatollah.

As @cowboyinexile noted they’re protesting what the believe is another unwarranted, unlawful, II-conceived foreign war without a Congressional declaration from a President that literally campaigned on no more foreign wars.

And many of them are MAGA, not Democrats.

Rob responds to accusations of strawman by posting the most strawman of strawman arguments. No idea how you guys are trying to reason with him in good faith still he's clearly just here because his mother bottle fed him as a child.