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That was a lot. There is much to debate in this, however, I really don't have the time or interest to break down everything. I will say, the bold and underlined text is either grossly misinformed or deliberately obtuse. Who's strategy was it to get out of Afghanistan? Might want to check your history book on that one, sir.
Don’t confuse him with facts.

He’s on a roll.
 
Unsurprising that your retort was pseudo-whataboutism and then your underlying message be that my information came from CNN. It was my mistake to try and engage with you in something.
You're the one that started with the "FOX" b.s. while you were so innocently engaging me.

Newsflash, I've never watched Fox News. Ever.
Unsurprising that I reply to your "engagement" with like words and you're somehow triggered by that. Good talk dude.
 
And you've fully regressed from conversation to using the worn out "cultlike behavior" tag.
Nah, don't try that. Show me anywhere in the election that Trump was talking about this. Show me any evidence that RIGHT NOW they are about to have a nuke after we blew them up a few months ago. This just isn't a real position. It is whatever Trump wants is right. THAT is the cult part.

When you were for him because of illegal immigration but admitted that he took it too far but it was worth it to you, well I strongly disagreed. But, it was a position.
And, if you personally have been wanting us to start a war and take out the Ayatollah, well, that is a position too.
But, after all the bragging about peace, to suddenly claim a full scale regional war involving multiple countries was all in the his plans. Nope, that is the cult like part.
 
Fact is, Biden had from January until August to extract only 2,500 people and he didn't do anything until the final hour.
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You’ve got a real bad case of BDS.
 
So, WTF does "obliterated" mean. Jesus Rob, you fully joined the cult.
Unfortunately MAGA goes to this playbook time and time again and it works like a charm on their base. They put out twelve different versions of the truth on just about everything they do and their followers get to choose which truth they want to believe. Other countries pay the tariffs. We pay them but you'll get a $2000 tariff check. We pay them but it's worth the sacrifice because we're reshoring American manufacturing. Actually the tariffs are just a negotiation tactic to balance the trade deficit. Their story changes hour to hour, day to day, person to person. And to us, the lies are so blatant that it seems like they're not even trying to come up with a decent lie. Just throwing darts at a dart board of untruths and trotting out whatever hits. But for the MAGA base, damn does it work. They just pluck whichever truth happens to fit that day's beliefs and go about their merry way.
 
You're the one that started with the "FOX" b.s. while you were so innocently engaging me.

Newsflash, I've never watched Fox News. Ever.
Unsurprising that I reply to your "engagement" with like words and you're somehow triggered by that. Good talk dude.
any ounce of credibility in regards to you are gone (not that there was much)...I despise fox news, but I have watched it, still watch it from time to time for $hi!s and giggles...In fact I try to get news from right, left, middle...never watched fox news and not a maga...LOL...the first step is admitting you have a problem...
feel free to reply (or not) with your favorite comeback: ´triggered´...
 
any ounce of credibility in regards to you are gone (not that there was much)...I despise fox news, but I have watched it, still watch it from time to time for $hi!s and giggles...In fact I try to get news from right, left, middle...never watched fox news and not a maga...LOL...the first step is admitting you have a problem...
feel free to reply (or not) with your favorite comeback: ´triggered´...
You say that like you think I care that you don't believe me. The only national news I watch is occasionally CBS but it's all fluff for one side or the other no matter the source.

If you think I come to your little rain dance to seek credibility from a bunch of internet posters posing as morally outraged buffoons you are sadly mistaken.
 
Unfortunately MAGA goes to this playbook time and time again and it works like a charm on their base. They put out twelve different versions of the truth on just about everything they do and their followers get to choose which truth they want to believe. Other countries pay the tariffs. We pay them but you'll get a $2000 tariff check. We pay them but it's worth the sacrifice because we're reshoring American manufacturing. Actually the tariffs are just a negotiation tactic to balance the trade deficit. Their story changes hour to hour, day to day, person to person. And to us, the lies are so blatant that it seems like they're not even trying to come up with a decent lie. Just throwing darts at a dart board of untruths and trotting out whatever hits. But for the MAGA base, damn does it work. They just pluck whichever truth happens to fit that day's beliefs and go about their merry way.
Its a page straight out of Russian State media. They have done the EXACT process you are describing for years.
 
Unfortunately MAGA goes to this playbook time and time again and it works like a charm on their base. They put out twelve different versions of the truth on just about everything they do and their followers get to choose which truth they want to believe. Other countries pay the tariffs. We pay them but you'll get a $2000 tariff check. We pay them but it's worth the sacrifice because we're reshoring American manufacturing. Actually the tariffs are just a negotiation tactic to balance the trade deficit. Their story changes hour to hour, day to day, person to person. And to us, the lies are so blatant that it seems like they're not even trying to come up with a decent lie. Just throwing darts at a dart board of untruths and trotting out whatever hits. But for the MAGA base, damn does it work. They just pluck whichever truth happens to fit that day's beliefs and go about their merry way.
Very well said.
 
You say that like you think I care that you don't believe me. The only national news I watch is occasionally CBS but it's all fluff for one side or the other no matter the source.

If you think I come to your little rain dance to seek credibility from a bunch of internet posters posing as morally outraged buffoons you are sadly mistaken.

Do you have Facebook? Do you occasionally check out threads on there or even see advertisements and/or posts about them? Do you have any sort of news feed that you check-i.e. I have Samsung news on my phone and I don't think it was even by choice. Heck if you see something that doesn't sound right so you Google it?

If so then it doesn't matter if you watch Fox News or not. You are exposed to a ton of stuff that is tailor made for either what you want to see or what someone thinks you need to see. And you think it's what everyone else sees and are completely confused when people don't draw the same conclusions you do about it. To top it off you are also told in your news feeds that people who don't believe what you are seeing are wrong. It's the nature of how we all consume media these days.
 
Miller: What you are seeing is a military under President Trump's leadership that is not fighting politically correct. One reason I fear that some people in this country lost faith in the military is because we had a woke Pentagon.

 
I think its a war. Hell, our top leaders are calling it such. From what I can gather, the President has to notify congress within 48 hours and basically needs approval for continuation within the first 60 days. I don't think the law is really all that well defined for that first 60 days. Its really grey.

And I'm not arguing right or wrong on the war. I've made that knee jerk before. I'm just discussing whether or not the President is within his rights.
Massie does not agree on the law or constitutionality.

 
Miller: What you are seeing is a military under President Trump's leadership that is not fighting politically correct. One reason I fear that some people in this country lost faith in the military is because we had a woke Pentagon.


I don't think we ever lost faith in the military.
 
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