Louisiana governor ‘can’t wait to be sued’ after forcing the Ten Commandments in classrooms
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Just like DeSantis has not authority declaring satanism isn't a "Real" Religion ...The Gov of Louisiana has ZERO authority to claim there is no separation of church and state
Ten Commandments governor declares no church-state separation in Fox News interview
Louisiana Republican Governor Jeff Landry appeared surprised in a Friday Fox News interview when asked to defend his newly-signed law requiring the Bible’s Ten Commandments to be posted in every public school classroom throughout the state, which critics say is unconstitutional.Speaking about the First Amendment principle of separation of church and state, which the U.S. Supreme Court has affirmed at least a half-dozen times, Landry declared: “I challenge anyone who says that to go find me those words in the First Amendment. They don’t exist.”
He went on to claim those who want to “extract” what he claims are America’s Judeo-Christian principles “out of the foundation of this country…really and truly want to create the chaos that ultimately is the demise of this nation.”
On Thursday in a signing ceremony Landry declared the Bible’s Moses is the “original lawgiver,” a claim some challenged as a cultural choice and not an accurate one, given there are others that date back earlier, to ancient Greece, Babylon, and India.
“You’ve heard the criticism, it seems to be pouring in. Was it still the right thing to do?” Governor Landry was asked Friday afternoon.
“I mean, I didn’t know that living the Ten Commandments is a bad way to live life,” Landry replied, not touching the obvious and likely unconstitutional nature of the legislation he proudly signed 24 hours earlier. “I didn’t know that it was so vile to obey the Ten Commandments. I think that that speaks volumes about how eroded this country has become. I mean, look, this country was, was founded on Judeo-Christian principles and every time we steer away from that we have problems in our nation. I mean, right now schools teach, basically treat kids like critters and get the Ten Commandments is something bad to put in schools? It just it’s amazing.”
The founders clearly intended to create a secular, not religious government and took great care, including in the First Amendment, to ensure no religion was favored and individuals had the right to observe any faith, multiple faiths, or none at all.
“For those listening right now, they’re wondering, what’s the goal?” Fox News host Sandra Smith continued. “Because it’s not as if this is going to be taught in every school and classroom. This is just being displayed on the walls. So my question to you is, how is this going to improve the school environment and the performance of kids in those schools? When Governor, I pull up the report cards of these public schools and Louisiana is struggling, I mean, it is at the bottom of the country. The education system is failing these kids. I mean, Louisiana is 43, 44th in math and reading. So is this gonna help what is a very big problem in Louisiana?”
“Look, I think it’s part and parcel for helping kids anywhere around the country, if other states followed our suits, but at the same time that we signed that bill into law, we signed a string of others assign 20 bills, including this one, to reform Louisiana schools.”
Experts note that the U.S. Supreme Court struck down a similar law in 1980.
Sandra Smith’s remarks about Louisiana failing are accurate. According to U.S. News and World Report, Louisiana ranks 47th in education, 50th in crime, 49th in the economy, 46th in health care, and overall, it ranks last, at number 50.
HacklemanPoke
Deputy
And you just preached a sermon my friend. What you said is Truth. The more outwardly legalistic you are the less you care about people. In this case making schools display a poster of the 10 Commandments makes the 10 Commandments the golden calf. It’s the entire reason for Jesus.
Those legislators and governor care more about raising money and forcing people into their warped beliefs than actually caring for people’s needs.
Great point!
I don’t believe in the Bible but I’ve always thought it does have some good lessons people can learn from. Sadly they seem to want to learn from the less moral aspects of the Bible.
mugatu
Ranger
This really brought to mind the Pharisees. Judging and punishing people for breaking religious "laws" THEY made and claimed to be from God.
The traditions of men make void the Word of God.
Stillwater Townie
Ranger
If Louisiana is giving tax dollars to religious schools, would they still be required to display the 10 Commandments, even if it's not a customary part of their school policy to do that? Or would they be exempt from complying under the 1st Amendment? In other words, it would be interpreted by the far Christian Right that the government in exercising its own free speech can dictate what religious practices go on in its buildings but not dictate any religious practices churches or religious schools must follow.
We would probably be surprised how infrequently the Ten Commandments are posted in churches and religious schools. Of course, I suppose supporters would say what churches have been doing for hundreds of years is totally irrelevant to the issue. Instead, they would say that American schools had been displaying the Ten Commandments for hundreds of years as a traditional part of American history and they want that restored.
We would probably be surprised how infrequently the Ten Commandments are posted in churches and religious schools. Of course, I suppose supporters would say what churches have been doing for hundreds of years is totally irrelevant to the issue. Instead, they would say that American schools had been displaying the Ten Commandments for hundreds of years as a traditional part of American history and they want that restored.
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I have no issue if they are teaching about religion. I think it’s a good class for people to take as long as it is taught like a history class and not making one religion better than the rest or one worse than the rest. Religion is part of society and should be learned about.
HacklemanPoke
Deputy
Another thing they could do is post Mathew 19:16-22 along w the 10 commandments.
Basically Jesus is asked by a man what he must do that is good to have eternal life. Jesus responds why ask me what is good. The guy says he follows the 10 commandments so he must be good. Jesus says nah man you have to go sell everything you have and give it to the poor.
Que Charlie Brown “Wah Wah!” The man slinks away.
For me, that’s what a comparative religion class is.
And if it is done fairly and correctly, it’s a unifying force that shows the commonality of all religions rather than being divisive.
Walter’s probably wouldn’t let that happen though. Too woke.
Best religion class in ever took(13 years of Catholic School) was the religions of the world class my senior year of high school.