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Rupert Murdoch owned Wall Street Journal rips Stephen Miller and Kristi Noem: “Ms. Noem and Mr. Miller aren’t credible spokesmen. Their social-media and cable-TV strategy is to own the libs, rather than to persuade Americans. This is backfiring against Republicans.”

 
BREAKING: ICE agents will have a security role during the upcoming Winter Olympics, U.S. embassy sources confirm.

 
Why, of all the things that people do that are illegal in this country, is this one thing worth losing our humanity?
Haven't listened to the video yet. But this is where I am right now. There is nothing worth losing our humanity, there is nothing worth compromising our most basic bedrock principles. They are our identity. They are what makes us worth being us.

Matthew 25:41-46
“Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; 42 for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink; 43 I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.’ 44 Then they themselves also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46 These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
 
I don't agree with everything he says, but, he certainly makes good points.
Why, of all the things that people do that are illegal in this country, is this one thing worth losing our humanity?

This guy does a lot on neurodivergent video stuff also. He thinks very much like me. I've never seen the issue with immigration legal or illegal. Of course no one wants violent criminals in the country but that is such a small percentage it's hard for me to worry about.
 
This guy does a lot on neurodivergent video stuff also. He thinks very much like me. I've never seen the issue with immigration legal or illegal. Of course no one wants violent criminals in the country but that is such a small percentage it's hard for me to worry about.


Daracara Thompson (MD, 2025) Kidnapped and mrdered by Hernandez-Mendez, a 35-year-old national of Guatemala.

Santiago Lopez Morales (TX, 2025) – 48-year-old sht and klled during a motel crime spree by three Venezuelan nationals who also held a woman at gunpoint and sxually ass*aulted her.

Megan Bos (IL, 2025) – Found d*ecapitated and hidden in a bleach-filled container; suspect is a Mexican national in the U.S. illegally.

Luis Jocsan Nanez Lopez (KY, 2025) – 15-year-old sht and klled while protecting his mother from an attempted r*pe by a Mexican national.

Karen Diamond (CO, 2025) – 82-year-old who died from injuries following a hate cr*ime arson attack (Molotov cocktail) at a public event.

Hallie Helgeson & Brady Heiling (WI, 2025) – Two teenagers k*lled in a head-on collision caused by a Honduran national driving on the wrong side of the road without a license.

Maria & Dayanara Pleitez (NJ, 2025) – Mother and 11-year-old daughter k*lled in a vehicle crash caused by a previously deported Mexican national.

Santos Paulino Vasquez-Ramirez (NY, 2025) – Taxicab driver strangled to death by a Guatemalan national over a fare dispute.

Katie Abraham (IL, 2025) – 20-year-old klled in a hit-and-r*un crash caused by an undocumented national from Guatemala.

Harjinder Singh Case (FL, 2025) – Three people k*lled in a crash caused by an illegal commercial driver from India making an unauthorized U-turn on the Florida Turnpike.

Unnamed Victim (MD, 2025) – Man suffered life-threatening st*ab wounds at a soccer game; suspect from Honduras.

Unnamed Victim (TX, 2025) – Chinese woman kdnapped, beaten, and sxually ass*aulted for five days by a Honduran national.

High-Profile Losses (2023–2024)

Laken Riley (GA, 2024) – 22-year-old nursing student klled while jogging; suspect Jose Ibarra is a Venezuelan national who was convicted and sentenced to life in Nov 2024.

Jocelyn Nungaray (TX, 2024) – 12-year-old kdnapped and klled by two Venezuelan nationals under a bridge in Houston.

Rachel Morin (MD, 2023) – Mother of five mrdered on a hiking trail; suspect is an illegal alien from El Salvador wanted for mrder in his home country.

Ivory Smith (TX, 2024) – 7-year-old klled in a crash caused by a Venezuelan national.

Alex “AJ” Wise Jr. (TX, 2024) – 10-year-old klled in a crash caused by an illegal alien from Mexico.

Grayson Davis (TX, 2024) – 29-year-old klled in a crash caused by an illegal alien.

Taliyah Crochet & Rylan Oncale (LA, 2024) – 18-year-olds klled in a collision involving a Honduran national.

Melissa & Riordan Powell (CO, 2024) – Mother and 16-year-old son klled in a crash caused by a Honduran national.

Ruby Garcia (MI, 2024) – 25-year-old mrdered by a Mexican national who had been previously deported.

Officer David Lee (MO, 2024) – Police officer klled in the line of duty while clearing highway debris; hit by an intoxicated driver from Honduras.

Fallen Citizens (2020–2022)

Kayla Hamilton (MD, 2022) – 20-year-old with autism rped and strangled in her home by an MS-13 member from El Salvador.

Anya Varfolomeev & Nicholay Osokin (CA, 2021) – 19-year-olds klled in a crash caused by a Mexican national.

Mollie Tibbetts (IA, 2021 Update) – 20-year-old student klled by a Mexican national while jogging.

Justin Schmidt (TX, 2022) – Klled in a crash caused by an illegal alien driving without a license.

The sad part is this is just a small list I put together. There are thousands more... 😓

Official DHS data released in late 2025 and early 2026 confirms:

Over 15,000 non-citizens on the non-detained docket have murder convictions.

Over 20,000 non-citizens on the non-detained docket have sexual assault convictions.

625,000+ non-citizens with criminal convictions or pending charges are currently not in custody.
 
Daracara Thompson (MD, 2025) Kidnapped and mrdered by Hernandez-Mendez, a 35-year-old national of Guatemala.

Santiago Lopez Morales (TX, 2025) – 48-year-old sht and klled during a motel crime spree by three Venezuelan nationals who also held a woman at gunpoint and sxually ass*aulted her.

Megan Bos (IL, 2025) – Found d*ecapitated and hidden in a bleach-filled container; suspect is a Mexican national in the U.S. illegally.

Luis Jocsan Nanez Lopez (KY, 2025) – 15-year-old sht and klled while protecting his mother from an attempted r*pe by a Mexican national.

Karen Diamond (CO, 2025) – 82-year-old who died from injuries following a hate cr*ime arson attack (Molotov cocktail) at a public event.

Hallie Helgeson & Brady Heiling (WI, 2025) – Two teenagers k*lled in a head-on collision caused by a Honduran national driving on the wrong side of the road without a license.

Maria & Dayanara Pleitez (NJ, 2025) – Mother and 11-year-old daughter k*lled in a vehicle crash caused by a previously deported Mexican national.

Santos Paulino Vasquez-Ramirez (NY, 2025) – Taxicab driver strangled to death by a Guatemalan national over a fare dispute.

Katie Abraham (IL, 2025) – 20-year-old klled in a hit-and-r*un crash caused by an undocumented national from Guatemala.

Harjinder Singh Case (FL, 2025) – Three people k*lled in a crash caused by an illegal commercial driver from India making an unauthorized U-turn on the Florida Turnpike.

Unnamed Victim (MD, 2025) – Man suffered life-threatening st*ab wounds at a soccer game; suspect from Honduras.

Unnamed Victim (TX, 2025) – Chinese woman kdnapped, beaten, and sxually ass*aulted for five days by a Honduran national.

High-Profile Losses (2023–2024)

Laken Riley (GA, 2024) – 22-year-old nursing student klled while jogging; suspect Jose Ibarra is a Venezuelan national who was convicted and sentenced to life in Nov 2024.

Jocelyn Nungaray (TX, 2024) – 12-year-old kdnapped and klled by two Venezuelan nationals under a bridge in Houston.

Rachel Morin (MD, 2023) – Mother of five mrdered on a hiking trail; suspect is an illegal alien from El Salvador wanted for mrder in his home country.

Ivory Smith (TX, 2024) – 7-year-old klled in a crash caused by a Venezuelan national.

Alex “AJ” Wise Jr. (TX, 2024) – 10-year-old klled in a crash caused by an illegal alien from Mexico.

Grayson Davis (TX, 2024) – 29-year-old klled in a crash caused by an illegal alien.

Taliyah Crochet & Rylan Oncale (LA, 2024) – 18-year-olds klled in a collision involving a Honduran national.

Melissa & Riordan Powell (CO, 2024) – Mother and 16-year-old son klled in a crash caused by a Honduran national.

Ruby Garcia (MI, 2024) – 25-year-old mrdered by a Mexican national who had been previously deported.

Officer David Lee (MO, 2024) – Police officer klled in the line of duty while clearing highway debris; hit by an intoxicated driver from Honduras.

Fallen Citizens (2020–2022)

Kayla Hamilton (MD, 2022) – 20-year-old with autism rped and strangled in her home by an MS-13 member from El Salvador.

Anya Varfolomeev & Nicholay Osokin (CA, 2021) – 19-year-olds klled in a crash caused by a Mexican national.

Mollie Tibbetts (IA, 2021 Update) – 20-year-old student klled by a Mexican national while jogging.

Justin Schmidt (TX, 2022) – Klled in a crash caused by an illegal alien driving without a license.

The sad part is this is just a small list I put together. There are thousands more... 😓

Official DHS data released in late 2025 and early 2026 confirms:

Over 15,000 non-citizens on the non-detained docket have m*rder convictions.

Over 20,000 non-citizens on the non-detained docket have s#%&al assault convictions.

625,000+ non-citizens with criminal convictions or pending charges are currently not in custody.
In the future, please link your sources rather than just cutting and pasting.

TIA

And as far as "Official DHS Data" goes......during the past two weeks (and beyond, really) DHS has shown the propensity to just make crap up so I'm going to take anything they say with a mountain of salt so large as to assume they're not being accurate or truthful.

Credibility matters.
 
Daracara Thompson (MD, 2025) Kidnapped and mrdered by Hernandez-Mendez, a 35-year-old national of Guatemala.

Santiago Lopez Morales (TX, 2025) – 48-year-old sht and klled during a motel crime spree by three Venezuelan nationals who also held a woman at gunpoint and sxually ass*aulted her.

Megan Bos (IL, 2025) – Found d*ecapitated and hidden in a bleach-filled container; suspect is a Mexican national in the U.S. illegally.

Luis Jocsan Nanez Lopez (KY, 2025) – 15-year-old sht and klled while protecting his mother from an attempted r*pe by a Mexican national.

Karen Diamond (CO, 2025) – 82-year-old who died from injuries following a hate cr*ime arson attack (Molotov cocktail) at a public event.

Hallie Helgeson & Brady Heiling (WI, 2025) – Two teenagers k*lled in a head-on collision caused by a Honduran national driving on the wrong side of the road without a license.

Maria & Dayanara Pleitez (NJ, 2025) – Mother and 11-year-old daughter k*lled in a vehicle crash caused by a previously deported Mexican national.

Santos Paulino Vasquez-Ramirez (NY, 2025) – Taxicab driver strangled to death by a Guatemalan national over a fare dispute.

Katie Abraham (IL, 2025) – 20-year-old klled in a hit-and-r*un crash caused by an undocumented national from Guatemala.

Harjinder Singh Case (FL, 2025) – Three people k*lled in a crash caused by an illegal commercial driver from India making an unauthorized U-turn on the Florida Turnpike.

Unnamed Victim (MD, 2025) – Man suffered life-threatening st*ab wounds at a soccer game; suspect from Honduras.

Unnamed Victim (TX, 2025) – Chinese woman kdnapped, beaten, and sxually ass*aulted for five days by a Honduran national.

High-Profile Losses (2023–2024)

Laken Riley (GA, 2024) – 22-year-old nursing student klled while jogging; suspect Jose Ibarra is a Venezuelan national who was convicted and sentenced to life in Nov 2024.

Jocelyn Nungaray (TX, 2024) – 12-year-old kdnapped and klled by two Venezuelan nationals under a bridge in Houston.

Rachel Morin (MD, 2023) – Mother of five mrdered on a hiking trail; suspect is an illegal alien from El Salvador wanted for mrder in his home country.

Ivory Smith (TX, 2024) – 7-year-old klled in a crash caused by a Venezuelan national.

Alex “AJ” Wise Jr. (TX, 2024) – 10-year-old klled in a crash caused by an illegal alien from Mexico.

Grayson Davis (TX, 2024) – 29-year-old klled in a crash caused by an illegal alien.

Taliyah Crochet & Rylan Oncale (LA, 2024) – 18-year-olds klled in a collision involving a Honduran national.

Melissa & Riordan Powell (CO, 2024) – Mother and 16-year-old son klled in a crash caused by a Honduran national.

Ruby Garcia (MI, 2024) – 25-year-old mrdered by a Mexican national who had been previously deported.

Officer David Lee (MO, 2024) – Police officer klled in the line of duty while clearing highway debris; hit by an intoxicated driver from Honduras.

Fallen Citizens (2020–2022)

Kayla Hamilton (MD, 2022) – 20-year-old with autism rped and strangled in her home by an MS-13 member from El Salvador.

Anya Varfolomeev & Nicholay Osokin (CA, 2021) – 19-year-olds klled in a crash caused by a Mexican national.

Mollie Tibbetts (IA, 2021 Update) – 20-year-old student klled by a Mexican national while jogging.

Justin Schmidt (TX, 2022) – Klled in a crash caused by an illegal alien driving without a license.

The sad part is this is just a small list I put together. There are thousands more... 😓

Official DHS data released in late 2025 and early 2026 confirms:

Over 15,000 non-citizens on the non-detained docket have murder convictions.

Over 20,000 non-citizens on the non-detained docket have sexual assault convictions.

625,000+ non-citizens with criminal convictions or pending charges are currently not
and f you look at American citizens that have committed the same type of crimes this happens at a much higher percentage. You for some reason only are out raged by these. I wonder what could it be? I understand bad things are going to happen. It sucks but it's part of life. But those that you hate being here do it at a much lower percentage than folks like you and me.
 
and f you look at American citizens that have committed the same type of crimes this happens at a much higher percentage. You for some reason only are out raged by these. I wonder what could it be? I understand bad things are going to happen. It sucks but it's part of life. But those that you hate being here do it at a much lower percentage than folks like you and me.
You said
Of course no one wants violent criminals in the country but that is such a small percentage it's hard for me to worry about.
I provided a list of easily verifiable things for you to worry about. The whataboutism of percentages compared to citizens is wearing blinders.
 
You said

I provided a list of easily verifiable things for you to worry about. The whataboutism of percentages compared to citizens is wearing blinders.
No it's not. You gave me list with no source. And no context of how many those are compared to how many immigrants come into this country. I said it's a low percentage and it is. You gave only the numbers from some source that have committed or again only been accused of violent crimes. I don't look at those numbers because it gives a bad idea of how bad the problem is. It does this usually for a reason to illicit an emotional response to get people to dislike immigrants. You continue to be so scared of a group that on a whole has been shown to be better Americans than most Americans.
 
What are y'alls thoughts on the coordinated signal chats in Minneapolis? At face value I think we can agree that it's a platform for organized protests. Perfectly normal there.

Some think it's a little deeper than that.. No hard evidence yet, but it's being framed as something led by the State. From recruiting, to organizing, training instruction, digging and sharing ICE info, etc. And if any of this is the truth, is it illegal? I think there'd be some 1A issues and obstructing the Feds is a counter argument.

Please.. don't get pissy with me about this either. I'm not arguing that any of this is the truth or even something that I feel is good. There's no evidence that the state is leading any of this, but it's floating around on social media. Are y'all seeing any of this and if so, what do you think?
 
What are y'alls thoughts on the coordinated signal chats in Minneapolis? At face value I think we can agree that it's a platform for organized protests. Perfectly normal there.

Some think it's a little deeper than that.. No hard evidence yet, but it's being framed as something led by the State. From recruiting, to organizing, training instruction, digging and sharing ICE info, etc. And if any of this is the truth, is it illegal? I think there'd be some 1A issues and obstructing the Feds is a counter argument.

Please.. don't get pissy with me about this either. I'm not arguing that any of this is the truth or even something that I feel is good. There's no evidence that the state is leading any of this, but it's floating around on social media. Are y'all seeing any of this and if so, what do you think?
Who is doing the framing ?
 
What are y'alls thoughts on the coordinated signal chats in Minneapolis? At face value I think we can agree that it's a platform for organized protests. Perfectly normal there.

Some think it's a little deeper than that.. No hard evidence yet, but it's being framed as something led by the State. From recruiting, to organizing, training instruction, digging and sharing ICE info, etc. And if any of this is the truth, is it illegal? I think there'd be some 1A issues and obstructing the Feds is a counter argument.

Please.. don't get pissy with me about this either. I'm not arguing that any of this is the truth or even something that I feel is good. There's no evidence that the state is leading any of this, but it's floating around on social media. Are y'all seeing any of this and if so, what do you think?
Its community led and decentralized. The state has absolutely zero involvement.

Its hard for people who are not organizers, do not know any organizers or for people whose commumities have not been threatened to understand. Humans have an immense capability to pull together in times of crisis. That is what happened here.

You can safely put all of the conspiracy theories and fear mongering about this in the same trash can with the paid protester nonsense. Its cut from the same cloth.
 
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FBI Director Kash Patel said Monday that he had opened an investigation into the Signal group text chats that Minnesota residents are using https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/fbi-

What are y'alls thoughts on the coordinated signal chats in Minneapolis? At face value I think we can agree that it's a platform for organized protests. Perfectly normal there.

Some think it's a little deeper than that.. No hard evidence yet, but it's being framed as something led by the State. From recruiting, to organizing, training instruction, digging and sharing ICE info, etc. And if any of this is the truth, is it illegal? I think there'd be some 1A issues and obstructing the Feds is a counter argument.

Please.. don't get pissy with me about this either. I'm not arguing that any of this is the truth or even something that I feel is good. There's no evidence that the state is leading any of this, but it's floating around on social media. Are y'all seeing any of this and if so, what do you think?

Spent 2 minutes on Google. Not sure why people are saying the state of MN is coordinating efforts (well I know why they are SAYING it) when it seems to be a nationwide effort.

 
Its community led and decentralized. The state has absolutely zero involvement.

Its hard for people who are not organizers, do not know any organizers or for people whose commumities have not been threatened to understand. Humans have an immense capability to pull together in times of crisis. That is what happened here.

You can safely put all of the conspiracy theories and fear mongering about this in the same trash can with the paid protester nonsense.
Here is the Person who Claims he infiltrated the Signal Chat and is the one the FBI is listening too

He has worked for PragerU since 2022 and is a Reporter for Charlie Kirk's TPUSA

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What are y'alls thoughts on the coordinated signal chats in Minneapolis? At face value I think we can agree that it's a platform for organized protests. Perfectly normal there.

Some think it's a little deeper than that.. No hard evidence yet, but it's being framed as something led by the State. From recruiting, to organizing, training instruction, digging and sharing ICE info, etc. And if any of this is the truth, is it illegal? I think there'd be some 1A issues and obstructing the Feds is a counter argument.

Please.. don't get pissy with me about this either. I'm not arguing that any of this is the truth or even something that I feel is good. There's no evidence that the state is leading any of this, but it's floating around on social media. Are y'all seeing any of this and if so, what do you think?
I have no clue about the legality of it. If the state is leading it I don't really care unless they are also trying to convince people to do illegal things. Jan 6 it was found that numerous people in the admin were organizing and paying for people to come(according to Jack Smiths testimony) they then instigated a riot. If it was something like that I would say there's something illegal with it. Just like Sen. Kelly being in a video to tell military members to not follow illegal orders isn't a crime. But if he said don't follow any orders I would have a problem with it.
 
For those keeping score....this is the SECOND time an "Independent Journalist" with ties to Far Right Groups has made some claim about having explosive evidence to Sink Minneapolis.

Don't forget the whole Daycare Funds was "exposed" by a Right Wing "Independent Journalist" when this all kicked off in Minneapolis and come to find out everything that guy was reporting was ALREADY known and people were ALREADY in jail from during the Biden Admin over it
 
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