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[cowboyinexile]

MN Secretary of State Steve Simon: "They don't just want the public stuff which anyone can get -- name, address, voting history, stuff like that. What they want is very personal, private, sensitive data on millions of people -- namely, Social Security numbers, driver's license numbers, military service history where applicable"

Aaron Rupar (@aaron.rupar) on Threads

MN Secretary of State Steve Simon: "They don't just want the public stuff which anyone can get -- name, address, voting history, stuff like that. What they want is very personal, private, sensitive data on millions of people -- namely, Social Security numbers, driver's license numbers, military...

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So as a MN resident who has voted in multiple elections, all of my personal data. Like more than what Musk got from all of us last year? Does the state save data on people voting in person or by mail? Because mine would be interesting in that I always voted in person until 2020 and have technically been by mail (via early voting at the courthouse) since then. Also in an open primary state would it let the federal government know which elections I voted DFL and which ones republican? Would they know of any caucuses I attended during presidential years?

And to be fair Im not sure what they want to use this data for. The easy answer is to influence elections for Republicans but I seriously doubt that a Republican will win a statewide election here for a while. They spent alot of time discrediting Walz only to completely torpedo that in the last month.

 

[steross]

Is that how he convinced Obama to award him a medal of honor?

Defending a guy that took a bribe from the FBI on video and only avoided prosecution because of how corrupt our government is because you like his politics? If that is what you want to be, go ahead. In my opinion, those people who care about politics more than our system are not real Americans.

And, to answer the stupidest question of the day by far, that award happened 11 years before the bribe.

Hey, do you think the Buffalo Bills wanted to have a running back who murdered his wife?

Do you think that Subway hired Jared because they wanted a pedophile as a spokesman?

I had a woman who asked me if the man in the room could be the father of her child but she met him when she was 5 months pregnant. I thought at the time she was the stupidest person i’d ever meet. But, now, jeez, she has so much competition.

 

[steross]

The first thing taught in conceal carry class is "always have your permit on your person when concealed carrying" because it's the law. He had neither permit nor ID.
If that doesn't make sense to you, then my apologies on your comprehensive abilities.

Did the Minnesota police or investigators say he wasn’t carrying his permit or ID?

If it was the federal government, they are obvious liars and cannot be trusted.

 

[PF5]

 

[Rob B.]

Did the Minnesota police or investigators say he wasn’t carrying his permit or ID?

If it was the federal government, they are obvious liars and cannot be trusted.

The story I read said local officials determined he had a permit but had no ID on him.

 

[steross]

The story I read said local officials determined he had a permit but had no ID on him.

Interesting given that the local police chief said they were blocked from investigating by federal agents despite having a warrant.

 

[Rob B.]

He keeps justifying the killing of American citizens by our government. But I'm the extremist. This is why I don't give one eff about what I say to him. He's had every opportunity to stop that type of speech and he can't. He can't because deep down he feels they are justified.

And you think it's justified to make cuck comments about someone's spouse. I provided proof of a firearm law and stated that by not carrying ID you are illegally carrying in Minnesota. You make cuck comments to prove your intelligence. This is why nothing you say matters.

 

[Vakarian74]

And you think it's justified to make cuck comments about someone's spouse. I provided proof of a firearm law and stated that by not carrying ID you are illegally carrying in Minnesota. You make cuck comments to prove your intelligence. This is why nothing you say matters.

Again that was about you not her but I will apologize that crossed a line I should have never gone.

 

[GratefulPoke]

Palantir Defends Work With ICE to Staff Following Killing of Alex Pretti

“In my opinion ICE are the bad guys. I am not proud that the company I enjoy so much working for is part of this,” one worker wrote on Slack.

www.wired.com

 

[osuwhit]

You can start a company to track and document illegal aliens. ICE subbing these bounty groups out now. The companies featured made between $20mil to $48mil.

Pretty good incentive to get paid to document brown folk. Easy money.

 

[GratefulPoke]

 

[Polds4OSU]

Bovino removed from ICE role

Gregory Bovino has been removed from his role as Border Patrol “commander at large” and will return to his former job in El Centro, California, where he is expected to retire soon, according to a DHS official and two people with knowledge of the change who spoke with Nick Miroff. https://theatln.tc/WH8hf8nl

“Bovino’s sudden demotion is the clearest sign yet that the Trump administration is reconsidering its most aggressive tactics after the killing Saturday of 37-year-old Alex Pretti by Border Patrol agents under Bovino’s command,” Miroff writes.

For more than half a year, Bovino has been the public face of a traveling immigration crackdown on cities governed by Democrats. Trump officials gave Bovino the “commander” title, and “he became a MAGA social-media star as he traveled the country with his own film crew and used social media to hit back at Democratic politicians and random critics online.”

“DHS and U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials did not immediately respond to questions about Bovino’s departure from Minnesota and his current role,” Miroff writes, and when asked about Bovino and Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, a White House spokesperson referred to press secretary Karoline Leavitt’s statement today that Noem has the president’s “utmost confidence and trust.”

: Stephen Maturen / Getty

 

[Rob B.]

You can start a company to track and document illegal aliens. ICE subbing these bounty groups out now. The companies featured made between $20mil to $48mil.

Pretty good incentive to get paid to document brown folk. Easy money.

The Cherokee Nation was paid $706 million to document illegals by the federal government.

 

[CowboyJD]

The first thing taught in conceal carry class is "always have your permit on your person when concealed carrying" because it's the law. He had neither permit nor ID.
If that doesn't make sense to you, then my apologies on your comprehensive abilities.

Per Goggle AI:

In Minnesota, failing to have your permit to carry on your person while carrying a firearm is generally a petty misdemeanor, often resulting in a fine if you have a valid permit but simply forgot to carry it
. However, failing to have a permit at all while carrying can result in a gross misdemeanor charge, punishable by up to one year in jail and a $3,000 fine.
Key details regarding this violation in Minnesota:

• Proof of Permit: If you possess a valid permit but did not have it on you, providing proof of the permit to law enforcement or the court can often lead to a dismissal or reduction of the charge.

So essentially like having car insurance, but not carrying proof of it in your car/on your person while driving.

Now a couple of questions for you:

Do you believe those ICE Agents would have treated him any differently if he had his permit and license on him at the time?

Do you believe there would have been a different result and he wouldn’t have been killed by ICE if he had his license and permit on him at the time?

 

[Rob B.]

Per Goggle AI:

In Minnesota, failing to have your permit to carry on your person while carrying a firearm is generally a petty misdemeanor, often resulting in a fine if you have a valid permit but simply forgot to carry it
. However, failing to have a permit at all while carrying can result in a gross misdemeanor charge, punishable by up to one year in jail and a $3,000 fine.
Key details regarding this violation in Minnesota:

• Proof of Permit: If you possess a valid permit but did not have it on you, providing proof of the permit to law enforcement or the court can often lead to a dismissal or reduction of the charge.

Now a couple of questions for you:

Do you believe those ICE Agents would have treated him any differently if he had his permit and license on him at the time?

Do you believe there would have been a different result and he wouldn’t have been killed by ICE if he had his license and permit on him at the time?

Answer to both is emphatically no.

That wasn't my argument at all. I simply stated that he was carrying illegally if he didn't have ID and permit on him.

Question for you.
Do you believe he was protesting without ID and permit accidently?
Most sane people, IMO, would have had both on them.
I kept my permit (which I don't even need anymore) in my console with my firearm and made sure it was with me if the gun left the truck with me.

 

[osuwhit]

The Cherokee Nation was paid $706 million to document illegals by the federal government.

Damn!

 

[HacklemanPoke]

The Cherokee Nation was paid $706 million to document illegals by the federal government.

Expand upon this.

And once again if you don’t want to be called a racist or bigot maybe stop using language racists and bigots use

 

[steross]

Great article explaining the IMHO corrupt way that the federal government is going off normal policy to "investigate" instead of letting the professionals do it because they want to guide the result.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/how-the-federal-investigation-of-alex-prettis-death-differs-from-past-cases-47777b6a?st=yTtHUz&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

How is the federal investigation being conducted?​

U.S. officials said Homeland Security Investigations, an agency within DHS,

What is Homeland Security Investigations and what powers does it have?​

HSI is the primary investigative branch of DHS, but its mission isn’t to probe the circumstances of shootings by federal agents.

How are shootings involving federal law-enforcement officials typically handled?​

Most shootings by officers involve local police, rather than federal agents. Typically if an officer causes someone’s death, local authorities will look for potential violations of state law. Though prosecutions aren’t common, officers have been charged with a range of offenses, from aggravated assault to murder. Federal authorities, usually the FBI and Justice Department’s civil rights division, will work alongside local investigators to determine whether an officer engaged in obstruction of justice or violated someone’s civil rights.

Past administrations thought the Justice Department’s civil rights division played an essential investigative role, because of the agency’s specialized resources and distance from local politics.

The Trump administration hasn’t taken the same view.

What happened after an ICE agent killed Renee Good in Minneapolis?​

The FBI tried to start a federal civil rights inquiry into the killing of Good, who was shot in her car by an officer with Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

An FBI agent in the Minneapolis field office obtained a warrant to search Good’s car under a federal civil-rights statute, as is common course, but was told by leadership to reclassify it as an assault against a law-enforcement officer, people familiar with the matter said. The department’s handling of the shooting prompted the agent’s resignation, the people said.

Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche has said “there is currently no basis for a federal civil rights investigation” into the ICE officer.

As with Pretti, the feds didn’t cooperate with state officials who wanted to investigate. Local authorities are mounting a probe on their own.

 

[cowboyinexile]

Bovino removed from ICE role

Gregory Bovino has been removed from his role as Border Patrol “commander at large” and will return to his former job in El Centro, California, where he is expected to retire soon, according to a DHS official and two people with knowledge of the change who spoke with Nick Miroff. https://theatln.tc/WH8hf8nl

“Bovino’s sudden demotion is the clearest sign yet that the Trump administration is reconsidering its most aggressive tactics after the killing Saturday of 37-year-old Alex Pretti by Border Patrol agents under Bovino’s command,” Miroff writes.

For more than half a year, Bovino has been the public face of a traveling immigration crackdown on cities governed by Democrats. Trump officials gave Bovino the “commander” title, and “he became a MAGA social-media star as he traveled the country with his own film crew and used social media to hit back at Democratic politicians and random critics online.”

“DHS and U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials did not immediately respond to questions about Bovino’s departure from Minnesota and his current role,” Miroff writes, and when asked about Bovino and Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, a White House spokesperson referred to press secretary Karoline Leavitt’s statement today that Noem has the president’s “utmost confidence and trust.”

: Stephen Maturen / Getty

Guess we know who the fall guy is now. I wonder if they are going to start erasing him from pictures now?

Also if the worst thing that happens to someone in this is they are demoted and told to retire that's still a bunch of garbage.

 

[CowboyJD]

Answer to both is emphatically no.

That wasn't my argument at all. I simply stated that he was carrying illegally if he didn't have ID and permit on him.

Question for you.
Do you believe he was protesting without ID and permit accidently?
Most sane people, IMO, would have had both on them.
I kept my permit (which I don't even need anymore) in my console with my firearm and made sure it was with me if the gun left the truck with me.

That’s why I asked. Because it kind of sounded like that was your argument….”death by FAFO” I think you called it earlier. Thanks for clarifying.

As to your question to me, I haven’t seen it verified by trustworthy sources (not the government) that he DIDN’T have his ID and Permit available on him. If he didn’t, it was probably intentional. I think you are being incredibly hyperbolic with asserting that being an insane decision.

Hell, we both agree that him having his permit and license on him wouldn’t have changed a thing. ICE still would have done what they did that ended in them killing. If his license and permit wouldn’t have done him any good that day, I don’t really see any decision not to take it with him that day as particularly insane.