Conference Realignment - What's next?

OrangeFan69 said:
Cal gets better ratings and isn’t in the boondocks like the other two and also plays in front of more recruits than the other two.
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Based upon statistics for viewership of college football teams from 2015 to 2020 published by Zach Miler on Medium on August 12, 2021 (Run it back with Zach) right after the SEC announced Texas and OU were joining the conference is the following:

Oklahoma State is number 19 in the country and number 1 in new B 12 with 1.65 million eyeballs

Stanford is number 25 in the country with 1.43 million eyeballs

Washington State 39 in the country with 909,000 eyeballs

California 47 in the Country with 730,000 eyeballs

Oregon State is 74 in the Country with 295,000 eyeballs

Is that picture from the mid 1980s? Those shorts!!!
 
GratefulPoke said:
Cal does not have better TV numbers than WSU and OreST.
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Point of Clarification, If you subtract the Mike Leach years from Zach Miller's Washington St. numbers, and they have reverted back to pre-Leach figures. Cal had better numbers than Wazzou. Cal's numbers are significantly higher than Oregon St's.

You can expect both schools numbers to decrease without the Apple Cup and Civil War (or whatever they changed the name to)
 
It’s all OU’s fault:

NCAA v. Oklahoma lawyer: ‘I think I screwed up college football.’​

The last 15 years have seen massive college football shifts from conference realignment, and that’s particularly heated up in the last few years. And that realignment has primarily been about maximizing TV money, so that has some looking back to how conferences managed to get TV money in the first place. The crucial case there was NCAA v. Board of Regents of the University of Oklahoma, and now one key lawyer involved has some regrets looking back.

First, the case, which the Supreme Court decided 7-2 in favor of Oklahoma and co-litigants Georgia in 1984. That ruling stopped the NCAA from punishing schools who had formed the College Football Association to negotiate TV rights themselves instead of going through the NCAA (which at that time only sold minimal TV rights packages in an attempt to protect in-person attendance). And it led to many more college football games being televised, and to that TV money playing a key role in college sports, including with realignment. And that’s the part that Andrew Coats, a lawyer for the Oklahoma and Georgia side there, now has some regrets about, as he told David K. Li of NBC News:


“I think I screwed up college football across the board, because I think the case did it,” Coats recently told NBC News, reflecting on his role in NCAA v. Board of Regents of the University of Oklahoma.
…“You feel bad how far it’s gone,” said the 88-year-old Coats, who still teaches law at his alma mater, the University of Oklahoma, and who served as the mayor of Oklahoma City from 1983 to 1987. “But I don’t think anyone could have predicted what would happen.”
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I’m thinking school cost. Didn’t Oregon or Washington say that it added 10 Million to the travel budget to join the BIG?
Added or total, I can’t remember.
 
PaulPoke said:
I’m thinking school cost. Didn’t Oregon or Washington say that it added 10 Million to the travel budget to join the BIG?
Added or total, I can’t remember.
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Gotcha! I tend to forget to figure things like that in when thinking about the conference.


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PokitN said:
I kinda like Washington St. and Oregon St and wouldn't mind if they joined....

(ducks under table)
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Half Baked Boo GIF
 
Stargazer said:
It is absolutely the source. That should be self-evident. Obviously, there are other factors at play. However, cord cutting is the main source and 2nd place isn't even remotely close.

Article I'm attaching is from 2015. ESPN lost $2 billion in 2015 due to cord cutting. From 2015 to 2023, ESPN lost an average of $1.6 billion each year. Cord cutting is without question the most important factor in the collapse of college football. That's nearly $14 billion-ish. As 1.6 million continue to cut the cord every year, well, it's pretty obvious that ESPN and even network TV is in deep trouble.

Eventually, if the status quo continues, SEC and maybe another conference will be the only two conferences in existence. The Big 12, ACC, etc, will no longer exist. Streaming services, such as Amazon and Apple TV, simply cannot keep college football alive. Unless people begin cable and satellite anew, the college football we know will be completely unrecognizable in the very near future. Unless such streaming services increase their monthly cost to what cable/satellite cost, it's over.

I mean, Disney is looking for a "strategic partner" for a reason . Disney is talking to every single entity possible, trying to minimize the damage. Even Amazon. Fact is.. Disney is trying to save ESPN because of the hemorrhaging loss of revenue via cord cutting.


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ESPN has lost more than $2 billion because of cord cutting

ESPN is making more money than ever from cable companies, but not as much as they were projecting.
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I'm not sure how accurate that is. A lot of cord cutters are going to sling, google and DTV online to save money. All those services still offer ESPN.
 
PaulPoke said:
I’m thinking school cost. Didn’t Oregon or Washington say that it added 10 Million to the travel budget to join the BIG?
Added or total, I can’t remember.
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That was negotiations does it really add that much cost? What's the price difference in a plane ticket from Washington to Cali or Arizona compared to the east coast. What are they losing a couple schools they could drive to.
 
DeerePoke said:
That was negotiations does it really add that much cost? What's the price difference in a plane ticket from Washington to Cali or Arizona compared to the east coast. What are they losing a couple schools they could drive to.
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Doesn’t the equipment drive to every game? Maybe a just few thousand bucks difference, but still.


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DeerePoke said:
That was negotiations does it really add that much cost? What's the price difference in a plane ticket from Washington to Cali or Arizona compared to the east coast. What are they losing a couple schools they could drive to.
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Don’t most of these schools use a charter service through one of the major airlines? I believe the conference actually is heavily involved with these negotiations with the air carrier since it is one contract for the whole conference using the airline!!! Do the airlines mark up the price if there are a bunch of cross country type trips due to fuel costs and maintenance and plane usage etc…. My guess is a guy like Reid Sigmon in the Athletic Department would probably have those answers since I believe he is responsible for OSU part of the negotiation and advice etc…
 
I think most of the increased costs come from the smaller sports where the Pac schools used to bus in conference. Oregon or Washington said BB1G travel would increase to 10 million.
 
With that news I'm willing to bet Yormark is already on the phone with the presidents from NCST, VT, Louisville, and likely some others. If FSU and Clemson weren't already gone, this gives them the last little push they needed, and the rest of the ACC won't be far behind.
 
MT Cowboy said:
With that news I'm willing to bet Yormark is already on the phone with the presidents from NCST, VT, Louisville, and likely some others. If FSU and Clemson weren't already gone, this gives them the last little push they needed, and the rest of the ACC won't be far behind.
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Those schools voted for expansion. They wont be leaving anytime soon. There is nothing FSU and Clemson can do, as the GOR is ironclad.

This round of realignment is over, outside of OreST and WSU going to the AAC or Mountain West. Big 12 leadership has decided they are not interested in further expansion at this time.

Things should be relatively stable until 2029 or 2030.
 
GratefulPoke said:
Those schools voted for expansion. They wont be leaving anytime soon. There is nothing FSU and Clemson can do, as the GOR is ironclad.

This round of realignment is over, outside of OreST and WSU going to the AAC or Mountain West. Big 12 leadership has decided they are not interested in further expansion at this time.

Things should be relatively stable until 2029 or 2030.
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I thought FSU/Clem/UNC voted no?
 
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