Christian Nationalism

Right-wing pastor/wealth manager David Reece says that Christian men have an obligation to build wealth and then use it to take public office and rule.

Living for the world much? Judgement begins at the house of God. Sadly, many will be judged hypocrites. Not good.
 
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Far-right pastor Joel Webbon says that Jews, Mormons, Muslims, Jehovah's Witnesses, Hindus, and atheists should not have the right to vote: "I'm a Christian nationalist, so yes, I would require a public profession of faith that you're a Christian in order to vote."

But what does he think of Trump who was caught on video proclaiming, "I'm not Christian"?
 
James Dobson has passed.

He was the first person I remember hearing and thinking that what hes saying isn't about the Christ I knew. Im sure some people are sad and some are happy. Personally Im indifferent-its wrong of people to mix politics and theology but he wasn't the first (maybe) and won't be the last to do it.
 
James Dobson has passed.

He was the first person I remember hearing and thinking that what hes saying isn't about the Christ I knew. Im sure some people are sad and some are happy. Personally Im indifferent-its wrong of people to mix politics and theology but he wasn't the first (maybe) and won't be the last to do it.
Good riddance to him.

He taught and normalized child abuse (emotional and physical) and the fallout from his teachings affected a couple people I know personally.
 
James Dobson has passed.

He was the first person I remember hearing and thinking that what hes saying isn't about the Christ I knew. Im sure some people are sad and some are happy. Personally Im indifferent-its wrong of people to mix politics and theology but he wasn't the first (maybe) and won't be the last to do it.
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Good riddance to him.

He taught and normalized child abuse (emotional and physical) and the fallout from his teachings affected a couple people I know personally.
Agree.

100%.
 

GOP Lt Gov saying all this from the pulpit of a church​



‘Some folks need killing’: North Carolina Lt. Gov takes Christian nationalism to dangerous area.


On the Sunday before the Fourth of July, North Carolina Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson, the Republican nominee for governor, stood on a church pulpit and called for the extrajudicial killing of people he considered to be enemies of Christian America. Republicans’ continued support for and promotion of Robinson’s candidacy show how the GOP and the religious right have mainstreamed calls for violence in the name of Christian nationalism.

Thee address — first reported by The New Republic’s Greg Sargent — was part of “God and Country Sunday” at Lake Church in White Lake, North Carolina. “We now find ourselves struggling with people who have evil intent,” Robinson declared, adding that “some folks need killing. … It’s a matter of necessity!” He compared these supposed enemies on the American left to Nazis in World War II: “We didn’t argue and capitulate and talk about, ‘Well, maybe we shouldn’t fight the Nazis that hard.’ No, they’re bad. Kill them.” And the state’s would-be governor had no qualms about marshaling state power: “Time to call out, uh, those guys in green and go have them handle it. Or those boys in blue and have them go handle it.”

The exact identity of the “folks” who deserved death was unclear. There are “wicked people doing wicked things, torturing and murdering and raping,” Robinson said. But he clearly had in mind a far broader spectrum of leftist foes, warning about those “making 1776 a distant memory” and those advancing “the tenets of socialism and communism.”


Cameron McGill, the church’s pastor, defended Robinson. “Without a doubt, those he deemed worthy of death [were] those seeking to kill us,” McGill told The New Republic, claiming that Robinson “certainly did not imply the taking of any innocent lives.” The pastor, in other words, gave Robinson his permission to deem some fellow citizens “worthy of death” based only on conspiratorial lies that such people want to kill Christians.

Robinson, an unabashed Christian nationalist, has a long history of extremist and bigoted positions, promoting conspiracy theories, and making racist, antisemitic, homophobic and transphobic attacks on fellow Americans. He launched his political career by attacking gun control and ridiculing survivors of the 2018 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida. He has expressed support for the 1970 National Guard shooting of anti-Vietnam War protesters at Kent State University, denied the Holocaust and called for trans women to be arrested for using women’s restrooms.


Robinson’s supporters on the Christian right treat his vicious, bigoted attacks as evidence of his heroic stands against “woke” enemies of Christian America. The church introduced Robinson, who was fresh off an appearance at the Road to Majority conference hosted by the Faith and Freedom Coalition in Washington, D.C., with a clip of his appearance at this high-profile event for Republican heavyweights, including former President Donald Trump. In the segment, Robinson attacked the media as anti-American, saying, “I don’t care about your plans and your schemes to bring this nation down, with your Democratic friends. Why? Because Jesus Christ is still on the throne!”


In a friendly interview between McGill and Robinson before the candidate gave his speech, the pair reiterated Christian nationalist dogma that the founders intended America to be a Christian nation, and that the separation of church and state was intended to protect the church from government interference, but not to stop the church from influencing government. “You cannot tell me we can separate our government from the laws of God, from the Bible,” said Robinson. “Our Constitution is based on the word of God, I don’t care what anybody says.” At one point in the interview, McGill told Robinson that he has an “anointing.” With that endorsement, Robinson took to the pulpit for his speech.

This is far from the first time Robinson has used the violent language of warfare to pit MAGA Republicans like himself against others. In 2021, he said in a speech that he was born “to be one of God’s freedom fighters” in order to “literally make war on the devil.” He warned he wanted to make “the literal foundations of hell tremble, and I want this nation to join with me in doing it.” That same year, Robinson said in another speech that Christians and conservatives must “get as bold and unafraid and warlike in spreading the truth in this nation as these people have been in spreading the lies that are currently destroying it.”


But in those instances, Robinson stopped short of endorsing murder. Explicitly advocating for supposed “enemies” of Christian America to be killed — on a church pulpit, no less — is a clear and dangerous escalation of Christian nationalist support for “spiritual warfare” against “demonic” enemies. Many promoters of “spiritual warfare” have long insisted, citing Ephesians 6:12, that they are not talking about actual war with “flesh and blood,” but rather a battle against “principalities and powers” that takes place solely in the realm of spirituality and prayer. Yet Robinson’s newly explicit calls for killing perceived enemies show just how seamlessly Christian nationalist extremists can glide into promoting real violence.

Trump wanted to shoot racial justice protesters in the wake of the police murder of George Floyd in 2020. Robinson, who could be North Carolina’s next governor, wants to get “the guys in green” or the “boys in blue” to “handle” unspecified “wicked people.” It’s all part of the MAGA quest to upend democracy and replace it with far-right authoritarianism. Robinson is merely taking the lead on turning this project into a twisted Sunday school lesson for Christian nationalists.
First that “church” should lose its tax exempt status !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please
 
Christian pastor on Trump and his administration: "I explicitly support what this president is doing... I have yet to read or hear one thing said or done as a Christian pastor that my heart doesn't leap and rejoice for."

Does he include that time when Trump said, "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose voters"? That was just one of many signs he gave people not to vote for him.
 

Pastor at Pete Hegseth’s church calls for public executions and says Bible backs Ice raids


he US defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, has repeatedly endorsed the Reformation Red Pill podcast, and has appeared on four episodes. But the former pastor who hosts the show, and who attends Hegseth’s theocratic church, has voiced a range of extreme positions in recent months on issues including Ice raids, capital punishment, the racist “great replacement” theory, adultery and neo-Nazism.

The revelations come on top of recent media reports focused on Hegseth also boosting a video of Douglas Wilson and other Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches (CREC) pastors arguing that women should lose the vote in the United States. They also follow previous revelations about Hegseth’s links to or apparent sympathies for Christian nationalist positions.

Joshua Haymes is a member of the CREC-aligned Pilgrim Hill Reformed Fellowship (PHRF), and his podcasts advocate for the CREC’s moral and theological positions. As the Guardian previously reported, he once served as a pastoral intern at the church. Online he has claimed that liberalism is a greater threat to the US than neo-Nazism, and that the Bible is “pro-Ice raids”. On X, he has also advocated for capital punishment for adultery and abortion, and appeared to call for the drowning of LGBTQ+ Pride marchers.


In an emailed comment, Haymes clarified his current professional role. “I am not a pastoral intern. I have gone full-time into media and content creation. I am not employed by Pilgrim Hill Reformed Fellowship,” he said.

Despite distancing himself from the PHRF, Haymes regularly hosts Brooks Potteiger, the congregation’s pastor and Hegseth’s closest spiritual adviser. Potteiger’s most recent appearance was just over a week ago. Pottiger appears alongside Haymes in the profile image for the podcast’s channel on YouTube, whose description reads: “We created this podcast as a resource to serve you in your reformation red pill journey.”

These materials, mostly published since Hegseth was confirmed as secretary of defense, underline the extreme Christian nationalist positions at Pilgrim Hill, in Goodlettsville, Tennessee, the community within which Hegseth acquired an 8,800 sq ft, $3.4m mansion in 2022.


The Guardian repeatedly sent requests for comment to Hegseth via the Pentagon’s centralized communications office. A Pentagon spokesman offered a link to a transcript of a 14 August press conference in which Pentagon press secretary Kingsley Wilson told reporters Hegseth “is a proud member of a church that is affiliated with the Congregation of Reformed Evangelical Churches which was founded by Pastor Doug Wilson. He is a very proud Christian and has those traditional Christian viewpoints.”

Heidi Beirich, co-founder and chief strategy officer of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, told the Guardian in an email: “It is completely unacceptable, and frankly terrifying, that our defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, has appeared on Joshua Haymes’s podcasts.”

She added: “The leader of the Pentagon is in league with white supremacists, Confederacy lovers, people who want to take away women’s right to vote and slavery apologists. In earlier eras, a person with ties like that would never have reached the heights of federal power or been acceptable to the GOP.”
 

Pastor at Pete Hegseth’s church calls for public executions and says Bible backs Ice raids


he US defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, has repeatedly endorsed the Reformation Red Pill podcast, and has appeared on four episodes. But the former pastor who hosts the show, and who attends Hegseth’s theocratic church, has voiced a range of extreme positions in recent months on issues including Ice raids, capital punishment, the racist “great replacement” theory, adultery and neo-Nazism.

The revelations come on top of recent media reports focused on Hegseth also boosting a video of Douglas Wilson and other Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches (CREC) pastors arguing that women should lose the vote in the United States. They also follow previous revelations about Hegseth’s links to or apparent sympathies for Christian nationalist positions.

Joshua Haymes is a member of the CREC-aligned Pilgrim Hill Reformed Fellowship (PHRF), and his podcasts advocate for the CREC’s moral and theological positions. As the Guardian previously reported, he once served as a pastoral intern at the church. Online he has claimed that liberalism is a greater threat to the US than neo-Nazism, and that the Bible is “pro-Ice raids”. On X, he has also advocated for capital punishment for adultery and abortion, and appeared to call for the drowning of LGBTQ+ Pride marchers.


In an emailed comment, Haymes clarified his current professional role. “I am not a pastoral intern. I have gone full-time into media and content creation. I am not employed by Pilgrim Hill Reformed Fellowship,” he said.

Despite distancing himself from the PHRF, Haymes regularly hosts Brooks Potteiger, the congregation’s pastor and Hegseth’s closest spiritual adviser. Potteiger’s most recent appearance was just over a week ago. Pottiger appears alongside Haymes in the profile image for the podcast’s channel on YouTube, whose description reads: “We created this podcast as a resource to serve you in your reformation red pill journey.”

These materials, mostly published since Hegseth was confirmed as secretary of defense, underline the extreme Christian nationalist positions at Pilgrim Hill, in Goodlettsville, Tennessee, the community within which Hegseth acquired an 8,800 sq ft, $3.4m mansion in 2022.


The Guardian repeatedly sent requests for comment to Hegseth via the Pentagon’s centralized communications office. A Pentagon spokesman offered a link to a transcript of a 14 August press conference in which Pentagon press secretary Kingsley Wilson told reporters Hegseth “is a proud member of a church that is affiliated with the Congregation of Reformed Evangelical Churches which was founded by Pastor Doug Wilson. He is a very proud Christian and has those traditional Christian viewpoints.”

Heidi Beirich, co-founder and chief strategy officer of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, told the Guardian in an email: “It is completely unacceptable, and frankly terrifying, that our defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, has appeared on Joshua Haymes’s podcasts.”

She added: “The leader of the Pentagon is in league with white supremacists, Confederacy lovers, people who want to take away women’s right to vote and slavery apologists. In earlier eras, a person with ties like that would never have reached the heights of federal power or been acceptable to the GOP.”

I don't remember Christ saying screw thy neighbor.
 
First that “church” should lose its tax exempt status !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please

How about we quit threatening churches with losing their automatic tax exempt status and instead force all of them to show that they are an appropriate charitable organization like other charitable organizations have to do?
 
How about we quit threatening churches with losing their automatic tax exempt status and instead force all of them to show that they are an appropriate charitable organization like other charitable organizations have to do?
Some of these churches have handed out voting guides for years, and pastors have openly told congregations who to vote for.
I don’t care how this activity is stopped, as long as it is. How charitable are not for profit hospitals really? I’ve NEVER heard of any church lose their status. So how big of a threat is it really?
 
First that “church” should lose its tax exempt status !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please
Who’s going to decide which church receives tax exemption? Do you really want a Trump led administration deciding which church deserves tax exemption. What if a far left candidate wins the next election and decides they don’t like churches preaching homosexuality and abortion are sins? This sounds like an extremely slippery slope!
 
Who’s going to decide which church receives tax exemption? Do you really want a Trump led administration deciding which church deserves tax exemption. What if a far left candidate wins the next election and decides they don’t like churches preaching homosexuality and abortion are sins? This sounds like an extremely slippery slope!
Say what you will, I truly believe in the separation of church and state. Far too many pastors tell or imply WHO to vote for. Passing out voting guides as well, and going so far as to tell parishioners that it’s a sin to vote for certain candidates. The thing that bothers me the most is that these pastors act as though the Holy Spirit only speak to them. They act as if no one in their captive audience is intelligent enough to prayerfully read and comprehend their own Bible.

I’ll admit the idea that this is okay literally makes me mad, especially when their private religious schools are taking public schools money. We’re 50 in public ed monies already. We’ve got a Superintendent of Education craming his own warped version of “Christianity “ down teacher’s and students throats, without even giving a thought about all the different and some vile organizations forming their own churches and schools. Our whole school district had to stop anyone and everyone from renting our gymnasium after Neo Nazis wanted our school. Nazis,Kkk Supremacist, you name it they could all form a church and start taking public money to support their causes, I can’t understand where hy some want warped ideologies being paid with taxes. Politics and religion certainly have their place. But politics in religion NO. Religion in politics ,it should be NO. In our democratic republic We The People are supposed to lead. It’s now majority rule trying to force us to comply. No free will here just forced compliance. And Propoke were already sliding fast, and picking up steam. It’s disturbing,
 
MAGA preacher: “And the Lord raised up a thrice-married New York real estate developer to show American Christians what manhood and warrior courage looks like.”

 
Say what you will, I truly believe in the separation of church and state. Far too many pastors tell or imply WHO to vote for. Passing out voting guides as well, and going so far as to tell parishioners that it’s a sin to vote for certain candidates. The thing that bothers me the most is that these pastors act as though the Holy Spirit only speak to them. They act as if no one in their captive audience is intelligent enough to prayerfully read and comprehend their own Bible.

I’ll admit the idea that this is okay literally makes me mad, especially when their private religious schools are taking public schools money. We’re 50 in public ed monies already. We’ve got a Superintendent of Education craming his own warped version of “Christianity “ down teacher’s and students throats, without even giving a thought about all the different and some vile organizations forming their own churches and schools. Our whole school district had to stop anyone and everyone from renting our gymnasium after Neo Nazis wanted our school. Nazis,Kkk Supremacist, you name it they could all form a church and start taking public money to support their causes, I can’t understand where hy some want warped ideologies being paid with taxes. Politics and religion certainly have their place. But politics in religion NO. Religion in politics ,it should be NO. In our democratic republic We The People are supposed to lead. It’s now majority rule trying to force us to comply. No free will here just forced compliance. And Propoke were already sliding fast, and picking up steam. It’s disturbing,
I completely agree politics need to be left out of the church. Jesus didn’t preach about politics and neither should pastors. I also don’t want the government dictating what church’s teach. I just see that being used as a political tool for both sides. I don’t have a good answer but government involvement definitely isn’t it!
 
I completely agree politics need to be left out of the church. Jesus didn’t preach about politics and neither should pastors. I also don’t want the government dictating what church’s teach. I just see that being used as a political tool for both sides. I don’t have a good answer but government involvement definitely isn’t it!
Separation of church and state is the ONLY practical solution. Co-mingling public money with private religious organizations opens wide the door to abuse. We need to end this ASAP before it’s completely out of control.
 
Separation of church and state is the ONLY practical solution. Co-mingling public money with private religious organizations opens wide the door to abuse. We need to end this ASAP before it’s completely out of control.
Right. I doubt that very many people agree with Republicans that one thing government can do right is teach the bible in public schools. I further doubt that Baptist parents want their children to get their bible lessons from Catholic teachers.
 
Right. I doubt that very many people agree with Republicans that one thing government can do right is teach the bible in public schools. I further doubt that Baptist parents want their children to get their bible lessons from Catholic teachers.
I completely agree. The Bible doesn’t need to be taught in public schools. If you want the Bible taught in your kids school then send them to a Christian school.
 
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