Christian Nationalism

[HacklemanPoke]

Anyone who says the US is founded as a Christian nation is a Christian Nationalist. The CN’s you mention above are just the more extremist version. The broader consensus from evangelical christians are empowering the more extremist views by stating the ridiculous claims of a US Christian founding. Powerful people in government are echoing the same claim and making the problem worse. Little do they realize that sentiment is one of the very reasons Christianity has been in decline for decades.

We might all be saying the same thing as nuance gets lost sometimes on a message board discussion.

I agree that the “conservative Christian” or evangelical movement is dangerous. But it’s a whole different animal than Christian Nationalism.

To me the average Stillwater Sunnybrook or Life Church or FBC or UMC church goer that makes a Facebook post or quip at Sunday brunch about the US being founded as a Christian nation is just parroting what their pastor or church group friend said without truly understanding the Gospels or US History. Dangerous in its own right on many levels. But these type have been around and mainstream for many decades.

True CN is on a completely different level. These people actually believe the genocide of Native Americans while bad was necessary to establish a country that would usher in their rule so that their version of Jesus would be the ONLY version of Jesus. Same goes for slavery.

We’re not talking about going back to the 1950’s here. We’re talking about a type of rule that would make everyone submit or you don’t eat, learn or heal.

That’s why I think it’s important to make the distinction bc Graham is right. The average evangelical or conservative Christian is not a CN. But he’s wrong in that we need to have that conversation and the media needs to differentiate and be honest about what CN means.

 

[Pokey]

We might all be saying the same thing as nuance gets lost sometimes on a message board discussion.

I agree that the “conservative Christian” or evangelical movement is dangerous. But it’s a whole different animal than Christian Nationalism.

To me the average Stillwater Sunnybrook or Life Church or FBC or UMC church goer that makes a Facebook post or quip at Sunday brunch about the US being founded as a Christian nation is just parroting what their pastor or church group friend said without truly understanding the Gospels or US History. Dangerous in its own right on many levels. But these type have been around and mainstream for many decades.

True CN is on a completely different level. These people actually believe the genocide of Native Americans while bad was necessary to establish a country that would usher in their rule so that their version of Jesus would be the ONLY version of Jesus. Same goes for slavery.

We’re not talking about going back to the 1950’s here. We’re talking about a type of rule that would make everyone submit or you don’t eat, learn or heal.

That’s why I think it’s important to make the distinction bc Graham is right. The average evangelical or conservative Christian is not a CN. But he’s wrong in that we need to have that conversation and the media needs to differentiate and be honest about what CN means.

Sound familiar? “Can’t buy or sell without the mark of the Beast.” These so called CN should be called “Christian” Taliban, by the way they act. If they knew how to read for themselves and were capable of recognizing truth over lies, and had true discernment they wouldn’t be fooled and act this way. They fail to understand that the Almighty gave us free will so that our love of God and all His people is genuine and not just soulless robot love, or hatefulness towards one’s neighbor. How does a person fight against this Beast power? With our lives in the end.
When “Christians” words and actions give fuel for nonbelievers to ignore God’s will, that’s at the very least pathetic. IMO. “ Who can fight against the Beast?” Who’s the father of lies people? Whose constantly promoting lies as truth? Strange and perilous times were in.

 

[Polds4OSU]

Sound familiar? “Can’t buy or sell without the mark of the Beast.” These so called CN should be called “Christian” Taliban, by the way they act. If they knew how to read for themselves and were capable of recognizing truth over lies, and had true discernment they wouldn’t be fooled and act this way. They fail to understand that the Almighty gave us free will so that our love of God and all His people is genuine and not just soulless robot love, or hatefulness towards one’s neighbor. How does a person fight against this Beast power? With our lives in the end.
When “Christians” words and actions give fuel for nonbelievers to ignore God’s will, that’s at the very least pathetic. IMO. “ Who can fight against the Beast?” Who’s the father of lies people? Whose constantly promoting lies as truth? Strange and perilous times were in.

'Mark of the beast': Marjorie Taylor Greene warns of End Times as she opposes Trump's Crypto Bill​

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) suggested that a crypto bill backed by President Donald Trump could be a sign of the End Times predicted in the book of Revelation.

Writing Wednesday on X, Greene said she could not support the so-called GENIUS Act after Trump urged Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) to schedule "the Vote as early as possible."


"I will not vote for this," Greene said. "The only way to guarantee a ban on a central bank digital currency is through law. The GENIUS Act does not ban CBDC or maintain people’s chain of custody."


The lawmaker concluded her post with a quote from Revelation 13:16-17.

"It also forced all people great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on the foreheads," the quote said, "so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name."

 

[Pokey]

'Mark of the beast': Marjorie Taylor Greene warns of End Times as she opposes Trump's Crypto Bill​

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) suggested that a crypto bill backed by President Donald Trump could be a sign of the End Times predicted in the book of Revelation.

Writing Wednesday on X, Greene said she could not support the so-called GENIUS Act after Trump urged Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) to schedule "the Vote as early as possible."


"I will not vote for this," Greene said. "The only way to guarantee a ban on a central bank digital currency is through law. The GENIUS Act does not ban CBDC or maintain people’s chain of custody."


The lawmaker concluded her post with a quote from Revelation 13:16-17.

"It also forced all people great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on the foreheads," the quote said, "so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name."

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I do not like to agree with her on anything. She has the beast mislabeled IMO but the time seems to be approaching when children will testify against parents, and brother against brother etc..