1907 ft tall Legacy Tower

It’s never gonna happen.
Just like the $5.5 billion-dollar green refinery in Cushing is never going to happen. After all, the cost of it is even bigger than the Legacy Tower and Heartland Theme Park put together. Interesting how such a costly refinery doesn't get in the news pro or con, pie in the sky or not.
 
Just like the $5.5 billion-dollar green refinery in Cushing is never going to happen. After all, the cost of it is even bigger than the Legacy Tower and Heartland Theme Park put together. Interesting how such a costly refinery doesn't get in the news pro or con, pie in the sky or not.
Supposedly they couldn't find enough land to build the refinery. That is total BS. They kept building storage tanks.
 
Just like the $5.5 billion-dollar green refinery in Cushing is never going to happen. After all, the cost of it is even bigger than the Legacy Tower and Heartland Theme Park put together. Interesting how such a costly refinery doesn't get in the news pro or con, pie in the sky or not.
The new Cushing refinery got in the news again. The problem is a delay and sounds like a problem someone else brought up. The company has been having difficulty finding a square mile piece of land available for sale.

Wow, I didn't know the state has provided $1.5 billion in incentives for the company. That's about double what it offered Panasonic.

 
The new Cushing refinery got in the news again. The problem is a delay and sounds like a problem someone else brought up. The company has been having difficulty finding a square mile piece of land available for sale.

Wow, I didn't know the state has provided $1.5 billion in incentives for the company. That's about double what it offered Panasonic.

A square mile of land in the vicinity of Cushing is not the hold up on a 5.5 billion dollar property the company is angling for something.
 
Wouldn't it seem if a tornado was going to take down this 1907 ft tower that in the past hundred years they would get some practice in taking out a few of the smaller towers in OKC or Tulsa?
For 20 years now, I only have one nightmare. Always the same. Standing in line at a grocery store looking out at the parking lot. Watching a multi vortex dance into a an F5. Yet the line won’t hurry up and I won’t leave the line. It hits. I wake.

I hate them to my core. Was so happy to be gone because of them.

I cannot believe I’m back. The first purchase I made was the flat safe in the garage floor.

So I ask another question.

Would an F5 take it down?

F5 = <.001 of total tornadoes. (Still scares me)
 
Wouldn't it seem if a tornado was going to take down this 1907 ft tower that in the past hundred years they would get some practice in taking out a few of the smaller towers in OKC or Tulsa?
A tornado pretty much took out all the windows in this building in Tulsa. It sat with them boarded up until fairly recently.

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A tornado pretty much took out all the windows in this building in Tulsa. It sat with them boarded up until fairly recently.

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Remington Tower. 20 stories tall. Hit by a EF 2 in 2017....reopened in 2024 as an apartment building.


EF 2 damaged it so bad, they considered destroying the entire building. However, in 2020 a company bought it up, stripped the entire inside down, Made it structurally sound again as the Tornado had done some bad damage and they spent the next 4 years remodeling it.

The begin taking applications for the new luxury apartments in Late April 2024 and it is now called the Reese Tower.
 
To sum up a 37-page report by the FAA, the 1907 ft. tower likely won't ever be built because an aeronautical study revealed that the structure as described would have a substantial adverse effect on the safe and efficient utilization of the navigable airspace by aircraft and/or on the operation of air navigation facilities. Therefore, pursuant to the authority delegated, it is hereby determined that the structure would be a hazard to air navigation.
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/WebBlobServlet
 
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Structural engineer, here...

From a structural standpoint, it's not overly difficult to make a tall building tornado resistant. In fact, most large, heavy buildings like this are controlled by seismic forces due to their mass, even in modest seismic regions like Oklahoma.

That said, a building can still be a total loss, even if the structure is sound. Typical windows will break, allowing rain and debris into the building, which obviously destroys anything near the exterior including furniture, MEP components, flooring, wall coverings, ceilings, etc... The cost of all of that can be more than the structure, and often reduces the building to a total loss from an insurance standpoint. It's why I'm NOT an advocate for making full tornado-proof buildings or houses with the exception of critical infrastructure or military (maybe hospitals in some cases). If you don't make the entire exterior building envelope tornado proof to include windows, doors, roof openings, ducts, pipe penetrations, etc...then the building isn't tornado proof, even if the structure can handle the loads. You can imagine making the entire envelope tornado proof is very costly, and not practical for most buildings.

Also, none of us in the OKC market believe this tower will happen. Primarily because it has no purpose or market here. Seems to us like a publicity stunt.
 
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