Who Should OSU Hire as Next Basketball Head Coach?

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Pistol Pete's Mustache said:
I'd prefer Devries or one of the younger guys, but Alford has a positive track record, and he's almost 60, so it's not a long term commitment. If he can get us back to the top half of the league with regular tourney appearances and a run or two to the Sweet 16 or further, that will put butts back in the seat, and put us back on the radar of major college basketball, which would be critical to the hire after Alford retires. I'm not super excited, but not super disappointed. I'll give him a shot and would expect him to at least get us back to regular NCAA appearances. Jamie Dixon at TCU feels like a good comparison.
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That’s who I was comparing him to. I think Dixon is a better coach and would take him in a heart beat over Alford but here’s the kicker.

Dixon has been at TCU 7 yrs. He has never finished above 500 in big12 conference in a yr so he has a losing big12 record (51-73). His best finish is 5th 3 times which also coincides w his 3 ncaa tourney appearances while at TCU.

Is Alford an upgrade over Dixon?
 
HacklemanPoke said:
That’s who I was comparing him to. I think Dixon is a better coach and would take him in a heart beat over Alford but here’s the kicker.

Dixon has been at TCU 7 yrs. He has never finished above 500 in big12 conference in a yr so he has a losing big12 record (51-73). His best finish is 5th 3 times which also coincides w his 3 ncaa tourney appearances while at TCU.

Is Alford an upgrade over Dixon?
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Nevada beat TCU by 13 this year. At the beginning of this season, Dixon’s Big 12 winning percentage was worse than Boynton. He makes $3.8 million at TCU. That is a lot of money for those results.

Nevada lost 7 games this season. Six of those were to tournament teams.
 
Pistol Pete's Mustache said:
I'd prefer Devries or one of the younger guys, but Alford has a positive track record, and he's almost 60, so it's not a long term commitment. If he can get us back to the top half of the league with regular tourney appearances and a run or two to the Sweet 16 or further, that will put butts back in the seat, and put us back on the radar of major college basketball, which would be critical to the hire after Alford retires. I'm not super excited, but not super disappointed. I'll give him a shot and would expect him to at least get us back to regular NCAA appearances. Jamie Dixon at TCU feels like a good comparison.
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What's the point of hiring to hire later? Find the right guy now. If this hire of Alford actually happens, it feels like such a missed opportunity.
 
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zone2poke said:
What's the point of hiring to hire later? Find the right guy now. If this hire of Alford actually happens, it feels like such a missed opportunity.
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Maybe it does, totally understand that.
You can always play that the other way too though with how many of the young can’t miss guys who’ve flamed out when they got the big gig. How’d Shaka work out at UT, & on & on, for years.

This time in CBB is like the NFL draft & all the teams desperate to find their next QB-you get desperate. We’ve gone the young up & comer route once with Ford, once with Underwood, & again with Boynton. Exactly one of those has proven he’s legit.

Might be time to look at someone on the verge of 700 wins this time. Was kind of a big deal when Eddie got to 800.
 
Stargazer said:
Steve Alford has been offered the job. I hate to post one of those "I have an inside scoop" type of posts but a very good friend of mine, who is a booster and very well-connected with all the happenings going on, has said his booster friend says Steve has all the support from boosters and Chad is impressed by him. my friend has never been wrong about these type of things.
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Interesting! 🤔
 
It's hard for me to get excited about Steve Alford. He's had 2 high major jobs. He was fired at UCLA, and he only made the NCAA Tournament 3 times in 8 years at Iowa. He would likely have more success here than Boynton, but I'm not sure he would have more than Ford.
 
LS1 Z28 said:
It's hard for me to get excited about Steve Alford. He's had 2 high major jobs. He was fired at UCLA, and he only made the NCAA Tournament 3 times in 8 years at Iowa. He would likely have more success here than Boynton, but I'm not sure he would have more than Ford.
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Looking at Nevada as well, he has done less there than Eric Musselman or Mark Fox accomplished. His heyday was a good run at New Mexico and his first couple of years at UCLA. He is still a solid coach, but his peak appears past him.
 
zone2poke said:
What's the point of hiring to hire later? Find the right guy now. If this hire of Alford actually happens, it feels like such a missed opportunity.
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He's not my first choice, and I'm not saying that's the reason for the hire, just thinking it through long term. If it's Alford, what I like is what seems to be a pretty high floor. Any of the mid-major guys we like are still a risk, and we simply can't afford to go much longer as a doormat sitting home in March. If he can get us to the tournament regularly, it'll be a good hire. And there's no guarantee that he's hit his ceiling, so who knows. None of the mid-major guys have proven yet how high their ceiling would be, especially in the meat grinder that is now Big 12 basketball. I prefer younger because the game is going through changes, but I won't hate an Alford hire.
 
Pistol Pete's Mustache said:
He's not my first choice, and I'm not saying that's the reason for the hire, just thinking it through long term. If it's Alford, what I like is what seems to be a pretty high floor. Any of the mid-major guys we like are still a risk, and we simply can't afford to go much longer as a doormat sitting home in March. If he can get us to the tournament regularly, it'll be a good hire. And there's no guarantee that he's hit his ceiling, so who knows. None of the mid-major guys have proven yet how high their ceiling would be, especially in the meat grinder that is now Big 12 basketball. I prefer younger because the game is going through changes, but I won't hate an Alford hire.
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There are certainly worse hires. But it is a bunt to advance the runner from 1st to 2nd. I'd rather we take a swing.
 
Pistol Pete's Mustache said:
He's not my first choice, and I'm not saying that's the reason for the hire, just thinking it through long term. If it's Alford, what I like is what seems to be a pretty high floor. Any of the mid-major guys we like are still a risk, and we simply can't afford to go much longer as a doormat sitting home in March. If he can get us to the tournament regularly, it'll be a good hire. And there's no guarantee that he's hit his ceiling, so who knows. None of the mid-major guys have proven yet how high their ceiling would be, especially in the meat grinder that is now Big 12 basketball. I prefer younger because the game is going through changes, but I won't hate an Alford hire.
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“High floor, low ceiling” seems like a great way to describe Alford. He’ll probably win at a higher level than Boynton, but there’s nothing in his 30+ year coaching history that suggests he’ll do great things here.

He would be a safe hire that would bring more stability to our program, but he probably wouldn’t get us back to where we want to be.
 
Pistol Pete's Mustache said:
He's not my first choice, and I'm not saying that's the reason for the hire, just thinking it through long term. If it's Alford, what I like is what seems to be a pretty high floor. Any of the mid-major guys we like are still a risk, and we simply can't afford to go much longer as a doormat sitting home in March. If he can get us to the tournament regularly, it'll be a good hire. And there's no guarantee that he's hit his ceiling, so who knows. None of the mid-major guys have proven yet how high their ceiling would be, especially in the meat grinder that is now Big 12 basketball. I prefer younger because the game is going through changes, but I won't hate an Alford hire.
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This is the thought process I imagine Weiburg is going through. We've been a doormat for so long and have swung and missed on up-and-comers once or twice, let's first hire someone with a, while not incredible, still solid track record who can regularly get us into the postseason. TLDR, let's first get some stability and baseline success back in the program. Alford likely offers that, and is a big enough name at what I imagine isn't too high of an accompanying price tag. Then since he's getting up in age anyway, start laying the groundwork and studying for the next big hire to happen within 5 or so years.

Let's not forget either this is Chad's first hire. That itself has to come with a lot of pressure to not flop. Bunt the runner into scoring position to setup for a base hit RBI instead of swinging out of your shoes with a higher chance of striking out.
 
It's not like Alford is chopped liver, he had 3 sweet 16's in basically 5 years at UCLA. UCLA is a tough job and every coach will be chasing a larger than life figure in Wooden. Would be a good hire but won't make me go

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LS1 Z28 said:
“High floor, low ceiling” seems like a great way to describe Alford. He’ll probably win at a higher level than Boynton, but there’s nothing in his 30+ year coaching history that suggests he’ll do great things here.

He would be a safe hire that would bring more stability to our program, but he probably wouldn’t get us back to where we want to be.
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I.e., upper middle management.
 
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