WH hints of military invasion of Venezuela

I had to stop at this one. This is dumb. Like saying, "LA Street gangs? The largest gang is US law enforcement who have killed....."

Purdue pharma did bad things. What they did was horrible but unfortunately legal. I don't know how you could know that they "killed 500,000 Americans as the manufacturer of one of the many abused opiates. The Sacklers paid out billions in fines and the company was dissolved.

Was that enough? I don't know. But, they are not narco-terrorists, and they did not receive "nothing."

This is a fallacy of comparison. Which is great for getting already angry people worked up but not very effective in getting skeptical people to agree to a conspiracy theory that you are about to propose.


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Agreed. I posted mainly for the Central Bank info since others were unaware. I’m not going to defend the pharmaceutical comparison.
 
Weird that the BRICS portal doesn't know who their members are.

The BRICS countries list has actually grown from five founding members to eleven full members, with Saudi Arabia officially joining in July 2025 along with earlier additions.
Weird that you can't conceive of the BRICS portal falsely claiming countries as members that didn't officially join yet.

Weird that you assume an organization with Putin and Russia being a major component is incapable of making false claims.
 
Weird that you can't conceive of the BRICS portal falsely claiming countries as members that didn't officially join yet.

Weird that you assume an organization with Putin and Russia being a major component is incapable of making false claims.
That's what I said. Weird.
 
I had to stop at this one. This is dumb. Like saying, "LA Street gangs? The largest gang is US law enforcement who have killed....."

Purdue pharma did bad things. What they did was horrible but unfortunately legal. I don't know how you could know that they "killed 500,000 Americans as the manufacturer of one of the many abused opiates. The Sacklers paid out billions in fines and the company was dissolved.

Was that enough? I don't know. But, they are not narco-terrorists, and they did not receive "nothing."

This is a fallacy of comparison. Which is great for getting already angry people worked up but not very effective in getting skeptical people to agree to a conspiracy theory that you are about to propose.


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If you want to read some things, go to this guys instagram or I assume X. He tackles just about everything from Venezuela to Alzheimer’s to the IRS and each plot has the same villain.
 
Repo markets? Does he mean bond markets? He's throwing out stuff he thinks sound smart but he sounds like an idiot. Who is that guy?

I'm not saying what this administration has done is all unicorns and rainbows without any secret malicious intent, but people gotta calm down with this stuff.

It reminds me of this:

Always Sunny Reaction GIF


Like why don't they ever explain what they mean in specific detail. Because they can't.
 
I did.

Maduro and other Venezuelan leaders have been saying it for a while now. They were one of the few countries without a Rothschild Central Bank. Others are Iran, North Korea, Cuba. 25 years ago Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Libya didn’t have one either. Now they do.

I could be wrong though. It’s just about oil and freedom. Or whatever else they’re saying it is.

 


It wasn't just the Rothschilds behind the federal reserve. There were multiple banking families along with the Wilson administration.


 
Do you know the difference between the two?
Yes.

Absolutely.

Merriam Webster:

ZIONISM:
an international movement originally for the establishment of a Jewish national or religious community in the historical region of Palestine and later for the support of modern Israel

I also know that you can support the establishment of a Jewish national or religious community in the historical region of Palestine and support modern Israel AND not support what the Netanyahu government is doing in Gaza.

The ridiculous and repeatedly debunked "Rothschild Central Bank" nonsense is an antisemitic conspiracy theory.

Full stop. No matter how hard someone tries to couch it in supposedly safe harbor terms.
 
This is from a friend of mine who is retired Military special ops. Found it interesting and a little scary, if we're taking back oil that was extorted that is also feeding Russia on the cheap


"Based on my own experience and opinion, here are a few (of many) things that I believe are most-certainly happening in Venezuela right now.

Separated in high-level strategic activities and then more “boots-on-the-ground” activities.

High level:

- It is quite clear that the U.S. has had CIA agents embedded in Venezuela for some time, even within Mudoru’s own circle. Certainly, the CIA would have been having a LOT of assistance from within the country itself

- Regardless of how the Trump administration wants to word it, this is, for all intents, a U.S. occupation of Venezuela

-The U.S. will run Venezuela for now will be responsible for ensuring safe, fair, and honest elections and assist in maintaining law and order during the transition

On the ground:

- There’s no doubt that we have Special Forces, with the assistance of local forces, rounding up Iranian-backed Hezbollah operatives as well as Muduro’s own posse

- By now, the U.S. has surely seized all of the government’s documents, cell phone activity, email activity, etc. This will all have to be interpreted and analyzed in order to trace dealings with drug cartels, Iran/Hezbollah, Russia and China. This takes a while.

- People loyal to Muduro are for sure being fired from their positions from the local level to the top. And some will be arrested.

- The U.S. is absolutely seizing the government-owned oil company by now. Trump has made it absolutely clear that he wants back every single drop of oil that Venezuela extorted out of American oil companies.

- We would, by now, be helping all levels of government in establishing chains of command and security.

The people are celebrating their liberation today.

We will be getting enormous amounts of cooperation from within.

But, we learned in Afghanistan that you can never be 100% certain who your local friends really are.

I’m happy for the people of Venezuela this evening. It looks like the celebrations are going well into the night across the country.

Prayers for the injured U.S. servicemen who were injured."
 
This is from a friend of mine who is retired Military special ops. Found it interesting and a little scary, if we're taking back oil that was extorted that is also feeding Russia on the cheap


"Based on my own experience and opinion, here are a few (of many) things that I believe are most-certainly happening in Venezuela right now.

Separated in high-level strategic activities and then more “boots-on-the-ground” activities.

High level:

- It is quite clear that the U.S. has had CIA agents embedded in Venezuela for some time, even within Mudoru’s own circle. Certainly, the CIA would have been having a LOT of assistance from within the country itself

- Regardless of how the Trump administration wants to word it, this is, for all intents, a U.S. occupation of Venezuela

-The U.S. will run Venezuela for now will be responsible for ensuring safe, fair, and honest elections and assist in maintaining law and order during the transition

On the ground:

- There’s no doubt that we have Special Forces, with the assistance of local forces, rounding up Iranian-backed Hezbollah operatives as well as Muduro’s own posse

- By now, the U.S. has surely seized all of the government’s documents, cell phone activity, email activity, etc. This will all have to be interpreted and analyzed in order to trace dealings with drug cartels, Iran/Hezbollah, Russia and China. This takes a while.

- People loyal to Muduro are for sure being fired from their positions from the local level to the top. And some will be arrested.

- The U.S. is absolutely seizing the government-owned oil company by now. Trump has made it absolutely clear that he wants back every single drop of oil that Venezuela extorted out of American oil companies.

- We would, by now, be helping all levels of government in establishing chains of command and security.

The people are celebrating their liberation today.

We will be getting enormous amounts of cooperation from within.

But, we learned in Afghanistan that you can never be 100% certain who your local friends really are.

I’m happy for the people of Venezuela this evening. It looks like the celebrations are going well into the night across the country.

Prayers for the injured U.S. servicemen who were injured."
I’m not doubting that Trump “expects” to recover every drop of oil nor am I disqualifying that US interests were sacrificed when Venezuela decided to confiscate leases and kick out US companies. I worked for a company that “volunteered” to leave mid 1990’s and left behind significant investment.

But this is something the media is not reporting.

US crude prices are below or near $60/ Bbl as far out as you can trade Feb37. Brent is not significant better in the near term but does spread a little in early 2030s. But if Trump wants this oil for US refineries along the Gulf Coast WTI is the price to watch.

US currently sits in an oversupplied position w production at almost 13.9MM bbls/d. Simply put we don’t need or necessarily want Venezuelan crude right this second. America first means putting US rigs and US workers to work in our fields spend money in our cities. Not sending US troops to secure Venezuelan fields, pipelines and ports. You think once the Venezuelan people see their lives stay sh!+ and the US hauling off their natural resources there won’t be stacks in country?

This is a nice summary of Venezuelan production capacity, capital required and the time frame. I just don’t see US board rooms believing in the long term viability of investing billions that would be necessary and I certainly don’t believe this administration has the integrity to balance the long term interests of the Venezuelan people with their own greed.

Realistic expectations for Venezuelan oil production involve a slow, multi-year recovery, with potential increases to 1.3-2 million barrels per day (bpd) within a couple of years under favorable political conditions (like U.S. involvement) but returning to peak levels (3 million+ bpd) taking a decade or more, requiring massive investment ($15-20B+), political stability, and infrastructure upgrades, despite holding the world's largest reserves
. Short-term gains focus on fixing existing issues, while long-term growth needs major foreign capital and stable governance.
Short-Term (1-3 Years): Modest Gains
  • Potential: Production could rise to 1.3-1.4 million bpd within two years with political transition and some investment, with some analysts suggesting 2 million bpd is possible in 1-2 years with operational fixes in the Orinoco Belt.
  • Requirements: Addressing immediate decay, securing capital, and stable management are key.
Medium-Term (Up to a Decade): Significant Growth Possible
  • Potential: Reaching 2-2.5 million bpd is feasible, potentially adding 500,000 bpd from the Orinoco Belt with $15-20 billion in investment.
  • Requirements: Consistent, heavy investment ($200B+ needed long-term), new technology, and strong investor confidence.
Long-Term (15+ Years): Return to Peak Levels
  • Potential: Reaching previous highs of 3 million bpd could take until 2040, requiring a sustained new investment cycle starting soon.
  • Key Factor: A stable, pro-investment regime is critical to unlock the vast reserves and rebuild decaying infrastructure.
Key Challenges & Considerations
  • Infrastructure Decay: Years of neglect have severely damaged the industry.
  • Investment Gap: Billions are needed, requiring guarantees and incentives for foreign companies.
  • Political Stability: A stable, transparent government is essential for investors.
  • Geopolitical Factors: U.S. involvement and lifting sanctions are major catalysts, but perception often outpaces reality.
In essence, while Venezuela holds immense potential, its realistic recovery is a marathon, not a sprint, contingent on massive, sustained investment and political stability to overcome decades of decline.
 
He is openly discussing subsidies to multi billion dollar corporations if they will go into Venezuela and rebuild the infrastructure and get meaningful production back on line.

I am as pro industry as anyone but this is friggin insane.

It pi$$es me off to no end to see people who voted for this guy and how this admin is treating people immigrants and citizens alike.

There are people on this board who voted for him bc he was going to “make people work” for their SNAP or some other contrived bs. You were conned. You can come at me all you want but you were played a fool.

He took a billion dollars from the O&G industry to get elected. His own net worth is up a staggering $3 billion dollars in less than 12 months. Musk has gone from $300 to $400 billion to an estimated $647 billion.

Trump alone can sit back at 5% and see his net worth increase more in 5 DAYS than 99.9% of the posters on this board will accumulate in net worth in their lifetime and I would bet his net worth @ 5% increases more in 2 weeks than the combined net worth accumulated in the lifetime of every poster on this board.

And he’s going to give companies valued in the hundreds of billions of dollars w CEO’s and executives worth hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars your tax dollars.

And you will sit back w your hand down your pants w Fox News on and facebook or x scrolling some anti immigrant AI bs and smile while thinking “I own the libs.”
 
He is openly discussing subsidies to multi billion dollar corporations if they will go into Venezuela and rebuild the infrastructure and get meaningful production back on line.

I am as pro industry as anyone but this is friggin insane.

It pi$$es me off to no end to see people who voted for this guy and how this admin is treating people immigrants and citizens alike.

There are people on this board who voted for him bc he was going to “make people work” for their SNAP or some other contrived bs. You were conned. You can come at me all you want but you were played a fool.

He took a billion dollars from the O&G industry to get elected. His own net worth is up a staggering $3 billion dollars in less than 12 months. Musk has gone from $300 to $400 billion to an estimated $647 billion.

Trump alone can sit back at 5% and see his net worth increase more in 5 DAYS than 99.9% of the posters on this board will accumulate in net worth in their lifetime and I would bet his net worth @ 5% increases more in 2 weeks than the combined net worth accumulated in the lifetime of every poster on this board.

And he’s going to give companies valued in the hundreds of billions of dollars w CEO’s and executives worth hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars your tax dollars.

And you will sit back w your hand down your pants w Fox News on and facebook or x scrolling some anti immigrant AI bs and smile while thinking “I own the libs.”
Mental Illness Schizophrenia GIF
 
He is openly discussing subsidies to multi billion dollar corporations if they will go into Venezuela and rebuild the infrastructure and get meaningful production back on line.

I am as pro industry as anyone but this is friggin insane.

It pi$$es me off to no end to see people who voted for this guy and how this admin is treating people immigrants and citizens alike.

There are people on this board who voted for him bc he was going to “make people work” for their SNAP or some other contrived bs. You were conned. You can come at me all you want but you were played a fool.

He took a billion dollars from the O&G industry to get elected. His own net worth is up a staggering $3 billion dollars in less than 12 months. Musk has gone from $300 to $400 billion to an estimated $647 billion.

Trump alone can sit back at 5% and see his net worth increase more in 5 DAYS than 99.9% of the posters on this board will accumulate in net worth in their lifetime and I would bet his net worth @ 5% increases more in 2 weeks than the combined net worth accumulated in the lifetime of every poster on this board.

And he’s going to give companies valued in the hundreds of billions of dollars w CEO’s and executives worth hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars your tax dollars.

And you will sit back w your hand down your pants w Fox News on and facebook or x scrolling some anti immigrant AI bs and smile while thinking “I own the libs.”
It's not funny, Rob B. We got the greatest government that money can buy more so than ever before.
 
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