US continues to go backward...

[PF5]

and we've had a series of recent high profile deaths/mass shootings with LGBTQ+ killers.

What is a 'mass shooting' exactly?

I was replying to your false statement AND you used the term mass shootings...but, I usually characterize it by shooting and/or killing multiple people...most define it as at least 4 shot or killed or 4 killed...I was merely giving you facts to help you with your false information on LGBTQ+ killers...I can respect differences of opinions of people (like us), however, it bothers me when people ignore facts!

 

[Ryno]

So what? And 13.6% of the population is responsible for 54% of the murder exonerations, meaning that they are extremely likely to be wrongfully convicted compare to others. But, would someone like you ever bring that up when bringing up crime data? Of course not.



This is what said was the reason you asked:

As we already said, there are multiple definitions of mass shootings. After we showed you that, yes, white men are the majority, you spun it to whining about different data showing different things. Instead of realizing the problem and understand how data is used, your finger pointing at dems and the media just makes you appear unconcerned about the deaths of Americans.

I'm not disagreeing with those numbers, at all.

Again, with what the media and anti-gun democrats like to use is a completely different number which changes the demographics completely.

So again, I agree with what you posted and the numbers you took screenshots of.

 

[Ryno]

Do you acknowledge your attempt to conflate the white male and female population to white perpetrators of mass shootings is incorrect?

We can play the definition game on mass shootings vs gun violence vs school shootings all day. But if you are not going to own blatantly false statements like the above, we aren't conversing in good faith.

I will acknowledge I didn't account for the 'sex' of the shooter when I posted. I should have accounted for that.

 

[GratefulPoke]

I will acknowledge I didn't account for the 'sex' of the shooter when I posted. I should have accounted for that.

I appreciate that acknowledgement.

If we go with the events of the last week both the Kirk murder and Evergreen High School shooting were instances of gun violence, neither were mass shootings, one was a school shooting.

Both are horrific.

 

[Stillwater Townie]

Yes, he supported public executions and thought they would be a "coming of age" experience.


Here is a nice video of this "greatest hits"

https://bsky.app/profile/adamparkhomenko.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3lyrgujguvs23

Also Joe Biden should be "put in prison and/or given the death penalty for crimes against America"

Charlie Kirk: Joe Biden should be "put in prison and/or given the death penalty for crimes against America"

www.mediamatters.org

Moral of the story, is the guy should have never been murdered and political violence is wrong. But lets quit this charade like he was anything other than a hateful bully that is one of the contributing factors to why our country is where it is.

True. Furthermore, it would help if these political commentators would not comment pro or con on personal matters on which they have no professional training. It should be only under a doctor's advice if a 10 year old pregnant girl can safely go through it or not.

 

[Polds4OSU]

Fox News Host Apologizes After Proposing 'Lethal Injection' for Homeless

Fox News host apologizes after proposing "lethal injection" for homeless

Brian Kilmeade had suggested using lethal injections on homeless people with mental illnesses.

www.newsweek.com

 

[steross]

I'm not disagreeing with those numbers, at all.

Again, with what the media and anti-gun democrats like to use is a completely different number which changes the demographics completely.

So again, I agree with what you posted and the numbers you took screenshots of.

Since you mentioned the rate of black shooters when given the data on whites, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the extremely high exoneration rates for black murder convictions relative to their minority status in the population.

 

[Ryno]

Since you mentioned the rate of black shooters when given the data on whites, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the extremely high exoneration rates for black murder convictions relative to their minority status in the population.

Has nothing to do with the numbers we are speaking of. I don't care about a black guy or white woman who got off for domestic violence.

I've only talked about mass shootings.

 

[PF5]

how about we stop this nonsense and say Mass Shootings are BAD!! doesn´t matter who does the shooting...and yes, we have a problem in our country! f*%k gun violence!

 

[Ryno]

how about we stop this nonsense and say Mass Shootings are BAD!! doesn´t matter who does the shooting...and yes, we have a problem in our country! f*%k gun violence!

We have a societal problem... It's not a gun problem.

 

[PF5]

We have a societal problem... It's not a gun problem.

call it whatever you want cowboy...do you just like to look for little $h!t to argue about?! smh...

 

[Ryno]

call it whatever you want cowboy...do you just like to look for little $h!t to argue about?! smh...

Not trying to argue. The problem with people being murdered like we've seen is due to a break down in our society the past 25-30 years. Social media, internet, etc. It's caused a major disconnect between our children and reality.

The gun has been around for as long as we've been a nation. This was RARELY happening when I was growing up (and before that).

 

[andylicious]

Republicans: Kirk stood for free speech
Also Republicans: Talk bad about him and we will ruin you

That's not exclusive to MAGA

Kind of a White Lives Matter deal?

 

[TheMonkey]

Not trying to argue. The problem with people being murdered like we've seen is due to a break down in our society the past 25-30 years. Social media, internet, etc. It's caused a major disconnect between our children and reality.

The gun has been around for as long as we've been a nation. This was RARELY happening when I was growing up (and before that).

Right. I’m sure if we had broken down as a society earlier, there would have been a breakout of musket mass shootings.

 

[cowboyinexile]

Kind of a White Lives Matter deal?

Kind or a rules for thee but not for me deal.

I did hear an interesting perspective about people celebrating his death I hadn't thought of. I find that abhorrent but Im a straight white guy. I think he was awful but I look like someone he would want to convert not someone he targeted. For those he considered undesirable his death was probably a relief.

 

[cowboyinexile]

Found this telling. Internet thing so unverified but you know there is a ton of truth to it.

 

[steross]

We have a societal problem... It's not a gun problem.

So European, East Asian, Australia and NZ have more functional societies than us as they have far lower murder rates and gun crime rates?

 

[andylicious]

I’ve been really shocked at the martyrdom of Kirk. I’m sure he was important to his family and friends but both sides in this deal have lost their minds.

 

[steross]

Has nothing to do with the numbers we are speaking of. I don't care about a black guy or white woman who got off for domestic violence.

I've only talked about mass shootings.

The subject we were speaking about was the rate for white men. You tried to add white women. You then added the rate for black men even though it also had nothing to do with what we were talking about. So, since you decided to add black murder rates for no reason I added black exoneration rates to counter your claims against them. Instead of being a decent human and commenting “interesting and sad, race should not play a part in murder convictions” you say you don’t care. None of it is about domestic violence. Murder only.

So, you care to post derogatory data about black men but don’t care about data about how they are unfairly treated.

Gotcha, I now understand what kind of person I am dealing with.

 

[steross]

This video makes a lot of good points about how we are all being used. And, deep down I think we all know it. But, it is just easier to do it than to fight it.