Where was this outrage when the people of Applachia died/lost their homes and or livelihood from tragic flooding?
Oh that's right, Trump wasn't in charge so you couldn't blame him.
I'm not afraid of the wrong people and I don't watch Fox.
Try again.
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Oh that's right, Trump wasn't in charge so you couldn't blame him.
I'm not afraid of the wrong people and I don't watch Fox.
Try again.
You think people should blame Biden for a hurricane?
LOL, you think they should blame Trump for a 100yr flash flood?
I don't think either of them should be blamed for a natural disaster.
The next time someone dies in a tornado because they slept through the warning will you blame maga?
The lack of common sense here is disturbing.
Polds4OSU
Marshall
It happened in 1987 (SAME camp) 10 died
It happened in 2016 (Same River)
Try it again with Facts. Blaming flash flooding on Trump is absurd
Trying to justify the lack of Action by the Legislation at the Local, County , State and Federal Level by trying to convince people this was an event that VERY rarely occurs....also Absurd
The Guadalupe River has a significant history of flooding, with notable events including the devastating floods of 1987, 1998, and 2002, which have impacted communities along the river.
Overview of Flooding in the Guadalupe River Basin
The Guadalupe River Basin, which begins in the Texas Hill Country and flows to the Gulf of Mexico, is prone to flash flooding due to its steep topography and heavy rainfall. The basin has experienced numerous floods over its nearly 150-year history, with an increase in frequency and magnitude in recent decades. Major floods have been recorded in 2002, 1998, and 2015, with the 1998 flood being particularly significant as it was the most severe flooding recorded downstream of the Canyon Lake Dam.USGS.gov+1
Notable Flood Events
- 1987 Flood: One of the most tragic events occurred on July 17, 1987, when a flash flood swept through the area near Comfort, Texas. Heavy rainfall of up to 11.50 inches in the headwaters led to a massive flood wave that resulted in the deaths of 10 teenagers from a church camp. The campers were attempting to evacuate when their bus was caught in the floodwaters. This incident highlighted the dangers of flash flooding in the region and led to increased awareness and safety measures for future events.
2 - 1998 Flood: This flood was noted as the most significant in recorded history for the area downstream of the Canyon Lake Dam. It caused extensive damage and prompted discussions about flood management and mitigation strategies.
1 - 2002 Flood: The flood of 2002 was notable for overflowing the Canyon Lake emergency spillway, resulting in significant erosion and changes to the landscape, including the formation of the Canyon Lake Gorge. This event further emphasized the need for effective flood control measures in the region.
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Uh, Im not blaming Trump. Thought I made that fairly clear earlier in this conversation.
Disaster response, idk yet though. Sounds like Noem isn't up for the job but I don't know enough to say for sure yet.
Polds4OSU
Marshall
Disaster response is evident.
Where is the head of FEMA ? right now? What has the head of FEMA said about this so far? What guidance or direction has the Head of FEMA provided to local and State Officials?
Why is Noem handling this? She is the Sec of Homeland Security
FEMA leader is a no-show after deadly Texas flooding
David Richardson hasn't made public appearances, statements or social media postings since last week's flood. Former FEMA officials say that's concerning.Link
I wasn't replying to you, I was replying to the person blaming maga for all the doom in his life. How you took that as me blaming Biden for a natural disaster is beyond me.
I stand corrected. It floods often.
Polds4OSU
Marshall
Time has come for me to say a few things on this nightmare we've all been living through. I have purposely waited to say anything to let the search, rescue, recovery, grieving process have time and space.
This lengthy post will also be very therapeutic for me. Just get things off my chest... I have cried on multiple occasions. Early this week in a conversation with my wife in the kitchen, I just suddenly broke down. I can tell you Amber is my rock and was everything I needed to calm down.
At times, I've been overwhelmed with forecaster regret I could have done more the night before in my weather report. I now fully understand it. I attended an AMS chapter meeting where Springfield, MO National Weather Service (NWS) meteorologists gave a presentation on their experience with the Joplin Tornado of 2011 that killed 158 people. I listened to them describe feeling scarred by the disaster. They asked themselves if their warnings were early enough, strong enough. The room was very silent through that presentation. It left a mark on me but you can't fully understand that feeling until you experience it for yourself.
Our local NWS office was absolutely fantastic before and during this event. I couldn't be more proud of this office for their watches and warnings. They did their part. But I'm more than sure they too are feeling the weight of this disaster like the meteorologists in Springfield, MO. God bless each one of you.
As for me, being on-air the night before in my 5pm, 6pm, 10pm weather saying "risk of an epic rainfall, flash flooding" apparently wasn't enough to cause alarm and have word spread through communities impacted. You only need a couple people to hear what you're saying then it spreads like crazy on social media, etc.. Maybe in my forecast, a portion of it dedicated to 4th of July firework show rain chances muddied the flooding messaging? These are things bouncing around in my head.
And today, I'm doing a little better but some of that I believe is a numbing effect of being beat down daily with updated casualty numbers. It's like my heart bottomed out and can't sink any lower. I'm just grinding along...
We live in Flash Flood Alley, a nickname given to our part of Texas. It stretches from basically the Rio Grande, up the I-35 corridor from San Antonio to DFW. A devastating combination of elevation change from the gulf to Hill Country, more rocky limestone than mud, terrain with narrow valleys and tropical systems, mere remnants of tropical systems or just non-tropical related thunderstorms sitting over one spot or training over one spot for a lengthy period of time with high rainfall rates.
Tucked in Flash Flood Alley is arguably the most dangerous valley in the country for flash flooding, the Guadalupe River watershed. Prime flash flooding setup with outdoor enthusiasts and population along its beautiful riverbanks.
There's the old saying, "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink the water". Well, Mother Nature has led us to water (full of deadly consequences) time & time again and we have yet to fully arm ourselves with layers of protection to warn those along the river. We put a system up for vote to taxpayers which was rejected.
IT IS DAMN WELL PAST TIME we have a loud siren system especially in rural portions of the river valley. Had a system been in place to be activated with a push of a button and a deafening ear piercing alarm had gone off deep in the night when many are asleep. Even more so when phone signals are weak to nonexistent and some won't have a NOAA weather radio which should be mandatory when other forms of communication are lacking for vital severe weather information.
This was a perfect storm for all the wrong reasons. Going into a holiday weekend with campers, RVers and families gathered along the river with an occurrence deep in the night when most have shut it down for a night's rest. An obnoxiously loud siren system could have been a game changer!
Some will say, it was a 100yr flood or even greater. We won't have to endure it for a long time. But damn it, history has shown us this river and our surrounding rivers in our region will come calling at some point. German immigrants in New Braunfels faced the wrath of the river in the 1840s. Eventually, we built a flood control lake known as Canyon Lake to protect downstream towns. Lets fully protect upriver to the headwaters now.
San Antonio River took many lives in the early 1900s. Dams were built and the River Walk was developed to control raging floods.
This is not new. You can go back centuries or further into the paleoclimatological records to see these rivers can rage. And there was no "cloud seeding" all those epic floods either for that crowd pushing a false narrative.
Lets not let the tragic loss of so many precious lives be wasted on in-action. GET IT DONE!! We should never speak of a nightmare like this ever again especially in 2025.
May God be with all the families devastated by this flood including our community wrapping our collective arms around these families and region impacted
Chris Suchan Meteorologist
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