US continues to go backward...

[mugatu]

Why should a non citizen be allowed to vote in any election?

Because they are long term legal residents and are generally voting at the city/township/school board level. And even that is a VERY small number of locations.

"Three states and Washington, DC, have municipalities that allow noncitizens to vote in certain local elections. San Francisco allows resident noncitizen parents and guardians to vote in school board elections. Oakland is currently attempting to enact a similar law. Some cities in Maryland and Vermont permit noncitizens to vote in municipal elections. New York City enacted a law allowing noncitizens to vote in local elections in 2021, but it was ruled unconstitutional by a state judge in 2022. Washington, DC, recently enacted a law to allow noncitizen residents to vote in all non-federal elections."

Four Things to Know about Noncitizen Voting | Bipartisan Policy Center

In recent years, heightened scrutiny has targeted the integrity of election processes, particularly regarding noncitizen participation in U.S. elections. We address here four frequently…

bipartisanpolicy.org

FYI, citizenship only became a nationwide requirement for sufferage in federal elections in 1924 when Missouri became the last state to make it a requirement.

The Myths and Truths of Noncitizen Voting in the United States

Noncitizens have been barred from voting in federal elections in the United States for at least a century. And since 1996, noncitizen voting in federal elections has been a crime punishable with fines and imprisonment. While a handful of municipalities lawfully permit noncitizens to vote...

immigrationforum.org

 

[GratefulPoke]

I thought everyone knew that some states allow non citizens to vote in local elections.

You can vote in U.S. federal, state, and local elections if you:

• Are a U.S. citizen (some areas allow non-citizens to vote in local elections only), including:

Noncitizens cannot vote in federal elections.

Also, the federal goverment does not have standing to interfere at the state and local levels.

 

[CowboyJD]

Why should a non citizen be allowed to vote in any election?

Because the municipalities want them to because they contribute to the municipality with sales taxes, have kids in the local schools, etc. and the municipality believes it is fair and equitable for them to be allowed to vote in municipal elections.

Or because the municipalities consider them citizens of the municipality that should have a say in how local government operates even if they aren’t U.S. citizens and can’t vote in federal or state elections.

Local self-governance.

Btw, certain noncitizens were permitted to vote in federal, state, and local elections in 33 states between 1776 and 1924. The granting the right to vote to noncitizens was a common incentive among U.S. territories and new states to attract workers and families to work and populate the land.

Maybe municipalities feel the same way.

In stating this justification, I am not necessarily agreeing or endorsing this….that I agree with it. Doesn’t really matter whether I agree with it because I live in Oklahoma and Oklahoma specifically disallows it.

Laws permitting noncitizens to vote in the United States

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

 

[PF5]

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Welcome to America

 

[Polds4OSU]

Megyn Kelly Blames Dems for Elon Musk’s Reported White House Exit, Says It’s ‘Sad’ He’s Not Embraced Like Einstein or Edison​

Link

Megyn Kelly Blames Dems for Elon Musk’s Reported White House Exit, Says It’s ‘Sad’ He’s Not Embraced Like Einstein or Edison | Video

The White House denies that the SpaceX CEO would step away before his work with DOGE is complete The post Megyn Kelly Blames Dems for Elon Musk’s Reported White House Exit, Says It’s ‘Sad’ He’s Not Embraced Like Einstein or Edison | Video appeared first on TheWrap.

www.yahoo.com

 

[RxCowboy]

I thought everyone knew that some states allow non citizens to vote in local elections.

You can vote in U.S. federal, state, and local elections if you:

• Are a U.S. citizen (some areas allow non-citizens to vote in local elections only), including:

The president has no authority over local elections. Period.

 

[RxCowboy]

Why should a non citizen be allowed to vote in any election?

Because they pay local taxes, bro. Taxation without representation is tyranny, remember?

 

[Vakarian74]

Because they pay local taxes, bro. Taxation without representation is tyranny, remember?

It’s so mind boggling how so many don’t remember this from civics. And I say that because most that don’t know it are on the older side when they still had better civics classes.

 

[Polds4OSU]

View attachment 10774

This should tell you everything you need to Know about Trump.

Dems are fighting to protect against Federal Over Reach and Trump is thinking he can impose his own will and own rules and voting requirements via EO like he is a King or something and he expects the States to forgoes their Power and bend to his will.

 

[GratefulPoke]

https://bsky.app/profile/michaelhobbes.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3llvy6mgdus2x

 

[CowboyJD]

https://bsky.app/profile/michaelhobbes.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3llvy6mgdus2x

Even weirder contradictory findings from the report:

OPERATION WARP SPEED: President-elect Trump’s Operation Warp Speed — which encouraged the rapid development and authorization of the COVID-19 vaccine — was highly successful and helped save millions of lives.

COVID-19 VACCINE: Contrary to what was promised, the COVID-19 vaccine did not stop the spread or transmission of the virus.

RUSHED COVID-19 VACCINE APPROVAL: The FDA rushed approval of the COVID-19 vaccine in order to meet the Biden Administration’s arbitrary mandate timeline. Two leading FDA scientists warned their colleagues about the dangers of rushing the vaccine approval process and the likelihood of adverse events. They were ignored, and days later, the Biden Administration mandated the vaccine.

VACCINE MANDATES: Vaccine mandates were not supported by science and caused more harm than good. The Biden Administration coerced healthy Americans into compliance with COVID-19 vaccine mandates that trampled individual freedoms, harmed military readiness, and disregarded medical freedom to force a novel vaccine on millions of Americans without sufficient evidence to support their policy decisions.

NATURAL IMMUNITY: Public health officials engaged in a coordinated effort to ignore natural immunity — which is acquired through previous COVID-19 infection — when developing vaccine guidance and mandate
VACCINE INJURY COMPENSATION: The government is failing to efficiently, fairly, and transparently adjudicate claims for the COVID-19 vaccine injured.
__________________________________________________

So let me get this straight....Trump's rapid development and authorization of the COVID-19 vaccine helped save millions of lives.

AND

The same vaccine didn't stop the spread or transmission of the virus, harmed/injured people, and we should have just let nature takes its course.

Wow.

 

[Polds4OSU]

Even weirder contradictory findings from the report:

OPERATION WARP SPEED: President-elect Trump’s Operation Warp Speed — which encouraged the rapid development and authorization of the COVID-19 vaccine — was highly successful and helped save millions of lives.

COVID-19 VACCINE: Contrary to what was promised, the COVID-19 vaccine did not stop the spread or transmission of the virus.

RUSHED COVID-19 VACCINE APPROVAL: The FDA rushed approval of the COVID-19 vaccine in order to meet the Biden Administration’s arbitrary mandate timeline. Two leading FDA scientists warned their colleagues about the dangers of rushing the vaccine approval process and the likelihood of adverse events. They were ignored, and days later, the Biden Administration mandated the vaccine.

VACCINE MANDATES: Vaccine mandates were not supported by science and caused more harm than good. The Biden Administration coerced healthy Americans into compliance with COVID-19 vaccine mandates that trampled individual freedoms, harmed military readiness, and disregarded medical freedom to force a novel vaccine on millions of Americans without sufficient evidence to support their policy decisions.

NATURAL IMMUNITY: Public health officials engaged in a coordinated effort to ignore natural immunity — which is acquired through previous COVID-19 infection — when developing vaccine guidance and mandate
VACCINE INJURY COMPENSATION: The government is failing to efficiently, fairly, and transparently adjudicate claims for the COVID-19 vaccine injured.
__________________________________________________

So let me get this straight....Trump's rapid development and authorization of the COVID-19 vaccine helped save millions of lives.

AND

The same vaccine didn't stop the spread or transmission of the virus, harmed/injured people, and we should have just let nature takes its course.

Wow.

Kim Jong Un Level stuff

 

[Rob B.]

Even weirder contradictory findings from the report:

OPERATION WARP SPEED: President-elect Trump’s Operation Warp Speed — which encouraged the rapid development and authorization of the COVID-19 vaccine — was highly successful and helped save millions of lives.

COVID-19 VACCINE: Contrary to what was promised, the COVID-19 vaccine did not stop the spread or transmission of the virus.

RUSHED COVID-19 VACCINE APPROVAL: The FDA rushed approval of the COVID-19 vaccine in order to meet the Biden Administration’s arbitrary mandate timeline. Two leading FDA scientists warned their colleagues about the dangers of rushing the vaccine approval process and the likelihood of adverse events. They were ignored, and days later, the Biden Administration mandated the vaccine.

VACCINE MANDATES: Vaccine mandates were not supported by science and caused more harm than good. The Biden Administration coerced healthy Americans into compliance with COVID-19 vaccine mandates that trampled individual freedoms, harmed military readiness, and disregarded medical freedom to force a novel vaccine on millions of Americans without sufficient evidence to support their policy decisions.

NATURAL IMMUNITY: Public health officials engaged in a coordinated effort to ignore natural immunity — which is acquired through previous COVID-19 infection — when developing vaccine guidance and mandate
VACCINE INJURY COMPENSATION: The government is failing to efficiently, fairly, and transparently adjudicate claims for the COVID-19 vaccine injured.
__________________________________________________

So let me get this straight....Trump's rapid development and authorization of the COVID-19 vaccine helped save millions of lives.

AND

The same vaccine didn't stop the spread or transmission of the virus, harmed/injured people, and we should have just let nature takes its course.

Wow.

Kim Jong Un Level stuff

Did you guys know Trump once shot a 17 on 18 holes, beating Un's record of 18 by a stroke?

 

[CowboyJD]

Kim Jong Un Level stuff

Did you guys know Trump once shot a 17 on 18 holes, beating Un's record of 18 by a stroke?

Except this isn't just Trump lying, repeatedly contradicting himself and making non-sensical statements.

We're all used to that.....with widely varying levels of concern/acceptance/nonchalant attitude about that.

This is the folks on this committee (and I'm presuming primarily the Republicans on this committee) doing the exact same thing.

Full Committee on Oversight and Government Reform - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

oversight.house.gov

IMO, I'm not hand-wringing or clutching pearls or anything like that when I'm concerned with the absolute abdication of checks and balances by Congress to this....any....President that this exhibits. That's not something that we should have nonchalant attitude about.

 

[Polds4OSU]

Except this isn't just Trump lying, repeatedly contradicting himself and making non-sensical statements.

We're all used to that.....with widely varying levels of concern/acceptance/nonchalant attitude about that.

This is the folks on this committee (and I'm presuming primarily the Republicans on this committee) doing the exact same thing.

Full Committee on Oversight and Government Reform - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

oversight.house.gov

IMO, I'm not hand-wringing or clutching pearls or anything like that when I'm concerned with the absolute abdication of checks and balances by Congress to this....any....President that this exhibits. That's not something that we should have nonchalant attitude about.

the people around him doing what ever it takes to make his lies a reality REGARDLESS of how Outlandish, Insane and Stupid the Lie is he Tells.

Ala

Kim Jong Un.

A wanna be dictator in an Echo Chamber who has surrounded himself with Yes Men. make NO MISTAKE. These people believe 100% that what Trump is saying is 100% True, because they have an army of people agreeing and nodding along and confirming what ever Trump wants...is the Truth of the day.

 

[Rob B.]

Except this isn't just Trump lying, repeatedly contradicting himself and making non-sensical statements.

We're all used to that.....with widely varying levels of concern/acceptance/nonchalant attitude about that.

This is the folks on this committee (and I'm presuming primarily the Republicans on this committee) doing the exact same thing.

Full Committee on Oversight and Government Reform - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

oversight.house.gov

IMO, I'm not hand-wringing or clutching pearls or anything like that when I'm concerned with the absolute abdication of checks and balances by Congress to this....any....President that this exhibits. That's not something that we should have nonchalant attitude about.

I agree, it's much the same as the nonchalant attitude about our border being wide open.
Won't end well.

 

[Stillwaterman]

https://bsky.app/profile/michaelhobbes.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3llvy6mgdus2x

Full summery is below. Fairly scathing review of how Covid was handled all around.

FINAL REPORT: COVID Select Concludes 2-Year Investigation, Issues 500+ Page Final Report on Lessons Learned and the Path Forward - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

oversight.house.gov

I don't know much about this committee, but it's composed of representatives from both parties. It can't be complete BS.

 

[CowboyJD]

Full summery is below. Fairly scathing review of how Covid was handled all around.

FINAL REPORT: COVID Select Concludes 2-Year Investigation, Issues 500+ Page Final Report on Lessons Learned and the Path Forward - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

oversight.house.gov

I don't know much about this committee, but it's composed of representatives from both parties. It can't be complete BS.

All Congressional Committees are composed of representatives from both parties.

The majority of the Committee and the Chairman dictate what type of report is released. It's not a consensus report just because minority members of Congress sit on it.

 

[Vakarian74]

I agree, it's much the same as the nonchalant attitude about our border being wide open.
Won't end well.

Wow you really are something.

 

[Rob B.]

Wow you really are something.

I know, racist, nazi, fascist, authoritarian, hater of all things good.
Did I miss anything from your juvenile name calling list, or does that pretty much cover it?