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Trump won't rule out deploying US troops to support rebuilding Gaza, sees 'long-term' US ownership

President Donald Trump said he won’t rule out deploying U.S. troops to support reconstruction of Gaza and that envisions “long-term” U.S. ownership of a redevelopment of the territory.
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Not ruling out long term ownership of Gaza..?


"President Donald Trump said Tuesday he isn’t ruling out deploying U.S. troops to support reconstruction of Gaza and he envisions “long-term” U.S. ownership of a redevelopment of the territory.

“We’ll do what is necessary,” Trump said about the possibility of deploying troops to fill any security vacuum. “If it’s necessary, we’ll do that.”

The comments came after Trump said he wants the U.S. to take ownership of the Gaza Strip and redevelop it after Palestinians are resettled elsewhere."


Wonder if its related to this:

www.theguardian.com

Jared Kushner says Gaza’s ‘waterfront property could be very valuable’

Donald Trump’s son-in-law also says Israel should bulldoze an area of the Negev desert and move Palestinians there
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sorry, but I do not like the idea of anything headed by musk to root out corruption and/or deciding what areas need to be cut or reduce funding...do any of you trust the government to get rid of curruption? is so, cool...if not, why do you trust musk and/or trump to do it??
 
mugatu said:
No that's not the answer, but you can't honestly believe that Trump truely cares about getting rid of corruption and conflicts of interest and doing things the right and legal way.
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Neither he nor Musk will pull back the curtain.

Trusting, hoping, or believing that those two are champions of transparency is nothing but gullible cheerleading,
 
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Donnyboy said:
The major reason is NAFTA which is a bad deal for us as a whole....cheap avocados and poutine doesn't replace manufacturing jobs. They are set up to ship stuff to us far easier than rest of the world....that change will take longer than it takes for tariffs to bankrupt them and US raiders to come buy them at cents on the dollar. Their largest export in dollars by far is petroleum/gas and again they aren't really set up to ship it to anyone but us....they actually ship it through the US to themselves in cases. Timber and electricity are bolstered by getting around state environmental rules. Wanna know why we get electricity from Canada because states like New York made environmental regs that Canada didn't.....same with logging.....because it's completely different to burn natural gas or cut down 100K acres of trees if they are 200 miles north when considering the climate of the whole Earth.

Canada's 23 GDP was 2.14 T (or less than 10% of ours). They have 2.3 million people of their 16M strong work force employed in jobs tied to exports to the US not counting all the other drivers, shop owners, banks, etc . In 2023 they shipped 440 B to the US.....128B was oil/gas/minerals which we have 52B was vehicles which we used to make....there are only 9 product categories according the the UN that total more than 10B and one is "Commodities not specified by kind" we get more "Precious stones and pearls" you know vital stuff than aluminum or steel.....if a real 25% tariff was put on all goods they don't make it 6 months without a full on depression. Canada is dependent on us. I'm not for the way Trump is going about this and I'm not for a contentious relationship with our next door neighbor but a "trade war" with Canada needs put in the context it belongs.

Their currency dropped 11.5% on the headline. The grown ups in Canada saw that....they may have to talk tough about booze or beaver pelts but a message was sent however haphazardly delivered. I really hope that this exercise cuts through the crap of acting like we are peers and sets the tone for future deals and is the end of it....it rarely is with Trump.
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Who negotiated the NAFTA revisions and came up with the USMCA agreement and said it might be the best deal ever….in 2018?

And why in the world would you trust that the person that made those deals can fix them now?
 
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PF5 said:
sorry, but I do not like the idea of anything headed by musk to root out corruption and/or deciding what areas need to be cut or reduce funding...do any of you trust the government to get rid of curruption? is so, cool...if not, why do you trust musk and/or trump to do it??
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Because they’re gullible cultists in favor of putting the fox in charge the henhouse and seeing what happens.
 
CowboyJD said:
Neither he nor Musk will pull back the curtain.

Trusting, hoping, or believing that those two are the champions of transparency is nothing but gullible cheerleading,
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JD, Does DOGE rifling through Treasury and USAID computer systems make it harder for actual legal repercussions to any crimes if what they keep claiming is true? Thought it might call into question what was actually there vs potentially planted by them while they had unsupervised access.
 
mugatu said:
JD, Does DOGE rifling through Treasury and USAID computer systems make it harder for actual legal repercussions to any crimes if what they keep claiming is true? Thought it might call into question what was actually there vs potentially planted by them while they had unsupervised access.
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Those are potential evidentiary/admissibility issues more than a jurisdictional issue

A defendant can always claim electronic evidence was planted, Musk’s shenanigans could make such claims more credible, but that would be based upon the totality of the circumstances….which we don’t know at this point.
 
CowboyJD said:
Those are potential evidentiary/admissibility issues more than a jurisdictional issue

A defendant can always claim electronic evidence was planted, Musk’s shenanigans could make such claims more credible, but that would be based upon the totality of the circumstances….which we don’t know at this point.
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Thanks. Yeah, I wasn't thinking jurisdiction, I was thinking credibility on court.
 
CowboyJD said:
Who negotiated the NAFTA revisions and came up with the USMCA agreement and said it might be the best deal ever….in 2018?

And why in the world would you trust that the person that made those deals can fix them now?
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I agree with all that.

You’re gonna have a hard time finding much he his doing iIm endorsing but all the trade war will ruin the economy talk over Canada is false. They don’t have that kind of weight.

Again I’m a tariff fan. Heard a guy on CNN say US companies pay 370B while we receive 60B in return. 310B is a lot extra cost for US companies and in almost all circumstances they need our market exponentially more than we need them. Tariffs are a good thing for strong countries. Cut individual taxes to counteract and let people decide what they buy and prices settle between US and foreign suppliers.

I don’t expect any form of rational measured implementation
 
CowboyJD said:
I don't disagree much except I'm not confident that the DOGE overreach will get the clamps put on it. I'm pretty confident it won't.

Secondly, if the US eliminates ALL foreign aid, China is going to continue exerting "soft power" in the form of such aid and that will not be good for US interests. We aren't giving aid to these 2nd and 3rd world countries out of the goodness of our heart. In many situations, it's because they have needed natural resources.
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Good point. But are we actually scaling out bang for buck? Edit: I mean before.... I know we are not now.
 
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Donnyboy said:
I agree with all that.

You’re gonna have a hard time finding much he his doing iIm endorsing but all the trade war will ruin the economy talk over Canada is false. They don’t have that kind of weight.

Again I’m a tariff fan. Heard a guy on CNN say US companies pay 370B while we receive 60B in return. 310B is a lot extra cost for US companies and in almost all circumstances they need our market exponentially more than we need them. Tariffs are a good thing for strong countries. Cut individual taxes to counteract and let people decide what they buy and prices settle between US and foreign suppliers.

I don’t expect any form of rational measured implementation
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Biden also put 100% tariff on Chinese electric vehicles which Musk actually admitted are superior to anything we have. I pick no sides here, just an interesting fact.
 
Asked how many Palestinians he had in mind to move from Gaza, Trump said, “all of them,” adding, “I would think that they would be thrilled.”

Pressed repeatedly on whether he would force them to go even if they did not want to, Trump said, “I don’t think they’re going to tell me no.”

Hamas, at least, was quick to tell him no.

Sami Abu Zuhri, a senior Hamas official, said, “Our people in Gaza will not allow for these plans to come to pass." | NYT
 
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