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I've had experience here. My wife has had exactly 4 wrecks in our 32 years of marriage. 3 not her fault and 1 was.

My wife was T-Boned by a Lady on the main road in our town after the lady ran a stop light. Completely the other ladies fault. This lady did not speak English , was not insured, didn't have a drivers license. I don't know if she was illegal or not but highly suspected. She was cited by the police for the accident and by the time I got there the cop was explaining to here through a translator the only reason he wasn't arresting her was due to the fact she had 2 kids under the age of 7 with her and it was 105 Degrees out and he wasn't going to put them on the street since they had no one who could pick them up. We paid the deductible out of our own pocket and got her car fixed and chalked it up to Normal every day getting screwed over non insured motorist. Almost 2 years later we randomly got a check from our insurance company for the full amount we paid out of pocket for our deductible. The Insurance company said the family of the lady who had caused the accident had reached out to them to make it right by us and had paid our insurance back in full for the amount we had paid out of pocket and asked them to ensure we got our money back.
Sounds like you were also lucky to have been involved with an uninsured individual with enough integrity to do what's right regarding reimbursing damages they caused without insurance.

Those people are few and far between and IMO doesn't really turn on their citizenship or immigration status.
 
Trump: Pete Buttigieg… he goes bicycling to work. He takes a bicycle to work. Can you believe— he's running the biggest air system in the world, and he takes a bicycle to work. What a— and they say he's going to run for president. I don’t see it

 
That article contained an excellent, articulate, and comprehensively fair discussion of the issue.

Thanks.
I know no one likes when their side's administration gets overruled by a district judge with nationwide implications to policy or law, but I don't understand how you move away from that.

You can't have federal laws in place and not across the country differently based on judicial district and whether cases were brought in specific states.
 

‘First time we were hearing of them’: The GOP megabill is packed with surprises for some Republicans​

The House Energy and Commerce Committee was 16 hours into a nearly 27-hour markup when it became clear that top Republicans on the panel weren’t clear on what key Medicaid provisions in the legislation they were actively debating would actually do.

Couple that with confusion from moderates over the committee’s complex and controversial proposal — including language to dramatically overhaul the popular health safety-net program with new work requirements and cost-sharing mandates — and it spells possible troubles ahead for the domestic policy megabill central to enacting President Donald Trump’s domestic agenda.


It could also further complicate last-minute negotiations on final text before the House is set to vote on the full package next week, especially with hard-liners pushing for even deeper cuts.

“There were some items in there that, it was the first time we were hearing of them,” GOP Rep. Ryan Mackenzie, who represents a competitive district in Pennsylvania he just flipped red, said in an interview.

Mackenzie is among a group of centrist Republicans not on the Energy and Commerce Committee —which advanced its portion of the bill Wednesday — taken by surprise by some elements of the panel’s Medicaid proposal. They have requested a meeting with GOP leadership to talk through some of their potential concerns about provisions dealing with Medicaid and the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.

Some of those moderates are likely to be in a Thursday morning meeting that Speaker Mike Johnson has planned with hard-line conservatives pushing for steeper Medicaid slashing and blue-state Republicans warring over a separate key tax deduction.


Of particular concern among a band of centrists is a new cost-sharing requirement for some Medicaid beneficiaries that would add new requirements for Americans with incomes at or just above the poverty line to pay for a portion of Medicaid services.

“That was a new element that ... had not been discussed with us before,” said Mackenzie. Another centrist House GOP lawmaker Sunday night remarked they expected there would be “problems” with the final list of Medicaid overhaul proposals being pitched.

Energy and Commerce Republicans rolled out their legislation late Sunday night that would produce massive savings — $301 billion over a decade, according to the Congressional Budget Office — as part of a broader Medicaid overhaul from the committee that would lead to 7.6 million people going uninsured, according to a partial estimate from the nonpartisan scorekeeper.


Republicans argue the number includes “able-bodied” Americans and immigrants in the country illegally who should not be entitled to government health coverage. The Energy and Commerce Committee needs to cut $880 billion in total from programs under its purview.

As it turns out, the legislation also would disqualify Americans from getting health insurance at lower costs through the Affordable Care Act marketplace if they otherwise qualified to receive Medicaid but failed to meet new work requirements — something that appeared to catch key GOP members of Energy and Commerce by surprise.

In the early hours Wednesday morning, members of both parties slogged through the wonky details of a provision that would add federal work requirements as a condition of enrolling in the safety-net program.

At one point, a committee aide was asked to weigh in on the matter and confirm the GOP draft bill would, in fact, prevent low-income Americans from getting subsidized marketplace insurance plans if they didn’t meet a new, more stringent Medicaid work requirement.



The discussion of what the work requirements would do began with a question from Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), who asked Energy and Commerce Chair Brett Guthrie (R-Ky.) why people under the Republican proposal would be prevented from buying into the Affordable Care Act plans at a subsidized rate.

Guthrie replied, “I don’t know of anyone would be prevented from buying that — I don’t know the answer about the ACA.”

Rep. Diana DeGette (D-Colo.), the health subcommittee ranking member, fired back, “If you don’t think anybody would be bumped off, why would you have that provision in the bill?”

That’s when Rep. Frank Pallone (D-N.J.), the full committee ranking member, stepped in.

“The [Congressional Budget Office] assumed exactly what you said: If I’m kicked off Medicaid because I didn’t file the paperwork — which is what CBO says is the main reason why people are kicked off, not because they’re not eligible … then the CBO assumed they would naturally then go to the ACA marketplace, the exchange, and buy a subsidized policy, and therefore there’d be no savings,” said Pallone, directing his comments to Ocasio-Cortez.


Republicans “want to meet this draconian cut so … they have to say to those people, ‘You can’t go to the marketplace,’” Pallone continued.

Rep. Morgan Griffith (R-Va.), the panel’s environment subcommittee chair, thanked Pallone for the explanation: “The people would have an option to go to the ACA plans, if I understand it correctly.”

Pallone interjected, “The bill says you can go to the marketplace and pay full freight, but you can’t get the subsidy. They can’t afford the full freight.”

Guthrie then asked the committee’s counsel to clarify the provision, at which point the counsel explained that if a person is eligible for Medicaid but fails the proposed Medicaid work requirements, they would indeed be ineligible for the subsidized marketplace plans.

The broader exchange prompted attacks from Democrats outside the committee.

“They rushed this cruel bill to markup in the dead of night without even understanding what they were voting on,” Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.) said in a social media post. “The American people deserve leaders who will fight for them, not destroy their lives to hand billionaires another round of tax cuts.”


Committee Republican staff later argued that Democrats’ response to the provision, which they see as simply a clarification of current law, was overblown.

“The Democrats tried to blow that up to make this into a big scandalous thing where we’re double-kicking people off coverage,” a committee GOP staffer granted anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly said, adding the situation would apply to a very limited group of people. “That's just not the case. It’s really hard to explain from the dais via members at 3 o'clock.”

Griffith, in a statement after the final party-line vote on the package, also fired back.

“Congressional Democrats and progressive prognosticators shouted day and night that the Energy and Commerce Committee couldn’t make budget recommendations without massive, significant cuts to Medicaid. And yet, House Republicans proved them all wrong,” he said.
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I know no one likes when their side's administration gets overruled by a district judge with nationwide implications to policy or law, but I don't understand how you move away from that.

You can't have federal laws in place and not across the country differently based on judicial district and whether cases were brought in specific states.
You have 12 federal circuits covering the entirety of the United States. A District Judge clearly has authority to issue an injunction through the entirety of his circuit.

I very clear cases (IMO, like birthright citizenship), twelve different injunctions in the 12 different circuits would get you there. Additionally, the automatic appeals resolve most of these nationwide injunctions one way or the other in fairly short periods of time.

We didn't really start seeing these nationwide injunctions before them being used against the Obama administration. It's a very nuanced, complicated, thorny legal and Constitutional issue. I'm happy that the SCOTUS is taking up the nationwide injunction issue on a case where I think the merits of the underlying case are pretty clear to a majority (hopefully the entirety) of the SCOTUS. I'd be surprised if they just outright ban nationwide injunctions with this case. They may write an opinion that says they are generally disfavored, but in certain circumstances, will be upheld. The problem then becomes giving lower courts some direction on what those circumstances are.

Even if they do just outright ban nationwide injunctions, "Associational relief" is still available. Furthermore, I believe you'll have immediately petitions for injunctive relief in the other nine districts that haven't already issued an injunction to the elimination of birthright citizenship.
 
You have 12 federal circuits covering the entirety of the United States. A District Judge clearly has authority to issue an injunction through the entirety of his circuit.

I very clear cases (IMO, like birthright citizenship), twelve different injunctions in the 12 different circuits would get you there. Additionally, the automatic appeals resolve most of these nationwide injunctions one way or the other in fairly short periods of time.
I guess my concern is forcing the cases to get across all 12 districts in a reasonable timeframe and what happens when you get stays pending ruling vs not as the various courts take up cases and then the same as appeals are brought.

But this could be an over reaction or lack of understanding in my case. Especially if it was the norm 15-20 years ago.

I'm happy that the SCOTUS is taking up the nationwide injunction issue on a case where I think the merits of the underlying case are pretty clear to a majority (hopefully the entirety) of the SCOTUS.

I'd be surprised if they just outright ban nationwide injunctions with this case. They may write an opinion that says they are generally disfavored, but in certain circumstances, will be upheld. The problem then becomes giving lower courts some direction on what those circumstances are.
Do you see a strike down of the EO while also limiting nationwide injunctions being a probable result of this?
 
I guess my concern is forcing the cases to get across all 12 districts in a reasonable timeframe and what happens when you get stays pending ruling vs not as the various courts take up cases and then the same as appeals are brought.

But this could be an over reaction or lack of understanding in my case. Especially if it was the norm 15-20 years ago.
That's a valid concern. In this situation though, I don't foresee any of the 12 districts saying "we're not going to issue an injunction" while we decide the underlying merits on something so important as declaring that birthright citizenship, something so recognized and settled, isn't a "thing" anymore.
Do you see a strike down of the EO while also limiting nationwide injunctions being a probable result of this?
Technically, the appeal before SCOTUS is only on the issue of whether the nationwide injunctions from a District Court are overbroad rather than an appeal of the underlying merits of the case. It would be pretty extraordinary for the SCOTUS to say that they are going to decide the underlying merits of the case at this time.....but we are living in extraordinary times.

They could do something like hold that they are okay with a nationwide injunction in this particular situation because the EO is clearly and extraordinarily unconstitutional which means the Trump administration has essentially no chance of winning on the merits. They could possibly even direct the courts below to issue a verdict in line with such a finding.

I think (maybe it's hope) the end result from SCOTUS will be upholding the nationwide injunction in this particular case, some language and direction limiting nationwide injunctions going forward, and then refer the litigation back to the lower courts for a decision on the merits. I think the decision on the merits will eventually strike down the EO which will be appealed and ultimately go back to SCOTUS and they will find such an EO unconstitutional as well (reaffirming the striking down).
 
I wonder if any investigative reporter (are there any real ones left?) will ever get the access to see how many billions of taxpayer dollars are being wasted on this return to office executive order. Just in the little corner of this massive government i'm aware of there is:
- hours upon hours of time from high-paid executives/HR leaders working on this
-renting space
-renovating space, putting up dividers, buying "white noise" machines to try to stop the patient complaints as they hear other people
-replacing and upgrading wifi systems to handle the huge traffic increase
-Furniture purchases and furniture theft (yep, seeing contractors swiping furniture from other parts of the agency to finish a build-out)
-building parking/renting parking/shuttle systems to handle all the new commuters.

I would bet my retirement that just the cost of this one order dwarfs the savings of DOGE.
I'm not saying that people that were scamming the system "working" from home should not have been audited and removed. But this wholesale change being done in a tiny time is enormously disruptive and costing the taxpayer a boatload. But, why does government debt matter when a bunch of voters got a lot of schadenfreude out of this?
 
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This seems like a good idea to me I'm kind of surprised this wasn't already a thing.....every aspect of our lives are taxed......we should be taxing money leaving the economy higher than the money staying here. This is calling for 5% I wish it was at least double. I'm for work visas and non citizens workers....and them having a clear path to citizenship....but taxing money before it leaves to never come back seems smart to me. I wish it was taken a step further.....I wish employers had to pay additional payroll taxes to hire non-citizens. If the employee adds the value of the tax then they will be chosen just like any other job. If not then it makes it more advantageous to hire citizens at better wages and also gives an enforcement mechanism to keep companies who employ and work non citizens at low wages/bad conditions. I worked for a company that was pretty widely known for hiring foreign students at much lower rates than citizens right out of school.....they gave them all the crap jobs and worked them like dogs.....if you want to call it to the level of exploitive I wouldn't argue.....put increased tax on that level the field for US young adults while incentivizing employers with such hiring practices to sponsor employees for citizenship. If you can get your next batch of risk analyst from abroad for cheaper ok but that is going to be taxed at a level that it's worth your time to help them get their citizenship....

Google AI put the number sent out at 81B in 22.....we ought to be recouping at least 10% of that.
I agree with the idea of a payroll tax that favors citizens to limit wage creep, but I think a tax on money being sent to family is inherently unfair given that they are already paying US income tax as well as SS/Medicare that they will never see. Not to mention that it will end up only hurting the poor workers. As a wealthy immigrant, I was quite easily able to move money around in multiple currencies between brokerage accounts and "remittances" is what I was doing, but it would not have been easy to track.
 
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