Stephen Miller: The Democratic Party is a 'domestic, extremist organization'

[cowboyinexile]

No I don’t think either of our major political parties are extreme. Do both parties have some members and a few policies that may lean extreme…yes.

What would you call extreme?

For what its worth I don't think I would consider Trump's first term extreme. Some of the anti mask anti vaccination stuff yes, but 2017 spending bill, Supreme Court nominees-that sort of stuff was pretty standard republican politics. Claiming the election was rigged and trying to circumvent the results through violence-yep and its found a way to go downhill from there.

 

[GratefulPoke]

I never called the Democrats extreme.

I said if anyone believes one is extreme and not the other then they should probably examine their news sources and perspective.

You in fact have. Multiple times. This shtick is not fooling anyone:

Binman - why do you post this obvious wrong info? One can hope that after next Tuesday you will stop spamming with fake news crap from extreme web sites, twitter accounts, etc. Musk’s hat is extremely ugly…but the font is not even close to what you show on your picture on the right.

Cuomo is spot on here. Showing the extreme silliness of Dem and GOP Senators at a cabinet nomination hearing.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1879342625691762783

It is not “hypocrisy 101 from the media”. It is the incredible fake offense by the political extreme.

What is telling is that you rely too much on emotions and your own personal biases to formulate thought. Yes, the people listed are extreme.
* I didn’t come up with the article and study of Dems moving further to the left , a self-identified liberal did.
* Govtrack, an independent group,
* ranked Kamala Harris the most liberal Senator
* ranked AOC as the 20th most liberal congressperson out of 435 for last year
* ranked Sanders as the #1 most liberal Senator for last year

I get they don’t seem extreme to you because you are heavily to the left, but compared to other elected officials they absolutely are. And that is not to say they are bad people or that it is wrong to support something an extreme ideologue likes…I recognize Jim Jordan and Marsha Blackburn are extreme, but I do support them backing tax cuts.

Nope. I’ve never made a post blaming a natural disaster on any politician.

BTW, tbelow is Bernie Sanders co-chair in 2020. Most people can condemn rhetoric that assigns blame for a natural disaster based on political ideology. She is correct.

Too many people are way too involved in their extreme ideology and leverage tragedy for cheap political points.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1941868423908069722

 

[JTOSU]

You in fact have. Multiple times. This shtick is not fooling anyone:

Yes there are people and policies that are extreme which I specifically said (Do both parties have some members and a few policies that may lean extreme…yes.)

But neither party is extreme.
Thank you for providing examples of me pointing that out.

 

[Rob B.]

Not to make too much of an appeal to authority, but it is kinda hard to argue against Stephen Miller's expertise in "domestic, extremist organization."

 

[GratefulPoke]

Yes there are people and policies that are extreme which I specifically said (Do both parties have some members and a few policies that may lean extreme…yes.)

But neither party is extreme.
Thank you for providing examples of me pointing that out.

Nice edit, and no surprises--still won't own up.

You know, it is a lot easier to own up to one's previous statements than to do the mental gymnastics routine. I also really don't know who your intended audience is. Just about everyone here has figured out your MO a long, long time ago. Who do you think you are fooling?

 

[Polds4OSU]

Who do you think you are fooling

Himself

 

[Rob B.]

Please provide specific national DNC policies and examples that show the Democratic party is extremist

It's nothing to do with national policies. It's to do with extremists. No policy sent the Minnesota psycho into that school today. And if you don't call that an extreme act of domestic terrorism then there's no hope.

But I notice you couldn't be bothered to start a new thread about that. It's (D)ifferent.

 

[steross]

Yes there are people and policies that are extreme which I specifically said (Do both parties have some members and a few policies that may lean extreme…yes.)

But neither party is extreme.
Thank you for providing examples of me pointing that out.

What differentiates a party from being extreme instead of the people and policies? Do you feel that the current administration has implemented any extreme policies?

 

[Polds4OSU]

It's nothing to do with national policies. It's to do with extremists. No policy sent the Minnesota psycho into that school today. And if you don't call that an extreme act of domestic terrorism then there's no hope.

But I notice you couldn't be bothered to start a new thread about that. It's (D)ifferent.

Miller called the Democratic PARTY extremist..which would indicate the DNC and ALL elected Democrats assisted by the DNC ......not individuals so you've failed spectacularly at trying to link them together


And watch this video ...


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Hillary called Trump supporters deplorable and they lost their collective Sh* over that

Can u imagine if she had called the Republican Party an extremist organization?

 

[JTOSU]

What differentiates a party from being extreme instead of the people and policies? Do you feel that the current administration has implemented any extreme policies?

First question, it is a lot more difficult for a large group of people to agree on extreme ideas. Although there are many negatives, one of the benefits of our two party system is regulating extremism. Neither party has an extreme platform. However, there are individuals in both parties that certainly lean far to right (MTG, Boebert, Jordan) and left (Presley, Omar, AOC).

Yes, current administration has definitely implemented extreme policies and operationalize some. I wish they wouldn’t, but unfortunately, that is not something unique with the current administration. What is unique is the extreme rhetoric.

 

[steross]

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Yes, current administration has definitely implemented extreme policies and operationalize some. I wish they wouldn’t, but unfortunately, that is not something unique with the current administration. What is unique is the extreme rhetoric.

When you say “not unique” do you mean in the nation’s history or like recently? Could you give your best example of an administration that was similarly extreme in policies?

 

[JTOSU]

When you say “not unique” do you mean in the nation’s history or like recently? Could you give your best example of an administration that was similarly extreme in policies?

Absolutely recent.
Are you implying that the Trump, Biden, and Obama administration have not all had some policies that most would consider extreme?

 

[Polds4OSU]

Absolutely recent.
Are you implying that the Trump, Biden, and Obama administration have not all had some policies that most would consider extreme?

I'll give you a freebie......find a match..this was said at a CABINET MEETING broadcast live to the world

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[CowboyJD]

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Predicted response from our false equivalizer….that’s rhetoric, not policy, and I already said “What is unique is the extreme rhetoric.”

 

[Polds4OSU]

Predicted response from our false equivalizer….that’s rhetoric, not policy, and I already said “What is unique is the extreme rhetoric.”

I was already for it with the actual definition of what a cabinet meeting is

 

[steross]

Absolutely recent.
Are you implying that the Trump, Biden, and Obama administration have not all had some policies that most would consider extreme?

You aren’t Socrates. You would gain a tiny bit of respect around here if you had the balls to actually answer a straightforward question from time to time.

I disagreed with many of Obama’s policies and some of Biden’s. Same with term one Trump (pre-election debacle). None of them did I consider extreme. Extreme to me is not just crappy like the ACA being an insurance money grab or Bidens border policy being too reactive to Trump’s border policies. Extreme is not bad policy but going against the ways of our government.

No, I didn’t really see anything like executive orders targeting specific law firms, firing IGs and ethics officers, massive tariffs with no Congressional oversight, pardoning thousands people with no vetting to obtain donations and political retribution …. I could go on and on for pages. There is no equivalence at all.

 

[JTOSU]

You aren’t Socrates. You would gain a tiny bit of respect around here if you had the balls to actually answer a straightforward question from time to time.

I disagreed with many of Obama’s policies and some of Biden’s. Same with term one Trump (pre-election debacle). None of them did I consider extreme. Extreme to me is not just crappy like the ACA being an insurance money grab or Bidens border policy being too reactive to Trump’s border policies. Extreme is not bad policy but going against the ways of our government.

No, I didn’t really see anything like executive orders targeting specific law firms, firing IGs and ethics officers, massive tariffs with no Congressional oversight, pardoning thousands people with no vetting to obtain donations and political retribution …. I could go on and on for pages. There is no equivalence at all.

As I said. Those that view one side as extreme, but not the other should consider their media consumption and challenge their perception.

Yes tariffs were extreme as were recent decision to fire person in Fed. As well as operationalizing ICE with using masks.
Just like Biden’s extreme border policy and multiple times going around the courts to transfer college debt. And Obama threatening to withhold funds to schools if they didn’t allow boys in girls school restrooms.
All extreme policies. But doesn’t make either the GOP or Dems an extreme political party.

 

[steross]

As I said. Those that view one side as extreme, but not the other should consider their media consumption and challenge their perception.

Yes tariffs were extreme as were recent decision to fire person in Fed. As well as operationalizing ICE with using masks.
Just like Biden’s extreme border policy and multiple times going around the courts to transfer college debt. And Obama threatening to withhold funds to schools if they didn’t allow boys in girls school restrooms.
All extreme policies. But doesn’t make either the GOP or Dems an

Your response show that you are the one with the biased consumption.

Obama did not threaten to withhold funds anymore than your employer threatens to withhold your paycheck if you break the companies rules. Title IX was about transgender, not “boys” in general. Either you read biased media, or you chose a bigoted response yourself.

Biden did not “go around the courts”. His first action was blocked by the courts. He then did something different that was allowed. What you are thinking is the current republican actions of ignoring court orders. again, your media is misleading you, or you lied.

I don’t agree with Biden’s college debt policy. But nothing “extreme” happened in the interplay between branches.

 

[Bowers3]

The President’s right hand man calling the other party a “domestic extremist organization” is extremist in and of itself.

 

[cowboyinexile]

You aren’t Socrates. You would gain a tiny bit of respect around here if you had the balls to actually answer a straightforward question from time to time.

I disagreed with many of Obama’s policies and some of Biden’s. Same with term one Trump (pre-election debacle). None of them did I consider extreme. Extreme to me is not just crappy like the ACA being an insurance money grab or Bidens border policy being too reactive to Trump’s border policies. Extreme is not bad policy but going against the ways of our government.

No, I didn’t really see anything like executive orders targeting specific law firms, firing IGs and ethics officers, massive tariffs with no Congressional oversight, pardoning thousands people with no vetting to obtain donations and political retribution …. I could go on and on for pages. There is no equivalence at all.

He attempted a coup after his election defeat 5 years ago. When he gained power again his first action was to exonerate people involved in that coup who would have assassinated political leaders he saw as threats if given the opportunity. He is doing everything he can to turn a person who died in that coup a martyr. It wouldn't have worked last time because military leadership never would have gone with it. So he installed an incompetent yes man as secretary of defense (or is it secretary of war now) and purged military leadership of people who he thought were more loyal to the country than him personally. He has also tried to purge the federal government of people who he doesn't deem loyal enough. He has turned what historically are non partisan institutions into his personal attack dogs. He has threatened to jail political opponents and although this is nothing new, he now has the power and enough yes men in the right places to turn his threats into reality.

Can we name another president in our history who has taken these actions?