He owned three homes before he wrote a book
Should there be billionaires?
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Would you prefer he live in a 1 bedroom apartment and drive an '05 Malibu to the office?
No, I'd prefer he not be a multi-millionaire crying about billionaires when the only thing he has contributed is being a career politician.
He's worth like 3 million. Not chump change by any means but let's not pretend hes griping about the rich from his yacht.
I think you are more concerned with the letter next to his name (or lack of the right one in his case) than anything else. You seem more concerned about his words than the actions of others in power who make his net worth off our backs in an afternoon.
Think what you want. IDGAF what letter is next to their name, any republican career multimillionaire who cries about someone else having too much money can kick rocks too.
I think your concern is who said something about your socialist hypocrite.
Am I playing your game right?
So it's not about them enriching themselves. It's about them saying they want to help the little guy when they have a 7 figure net worth. But we ignore the people with the 9 and 10 figure net worths because they seem to be pretty open about screwing the rest of us but hey at least they are honest about it?
This is like arguing with my ex wife.
JTOSU
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I will give Bernie credit. He does believe what he says and he is consistent in messaging (nobody in history has said the word “oligarchy” as much as Bernie).
However, he fans the flames of class warfare and conveniently never states that the rich already pay an enormous amount in taxes.
JTOSU
Ranger
People who are wealthy are “Screwing the rest of us”???
You just keep showing who you are and that you are for a team not for this country.
If you used your political authority to run a pump and dump crypto scheme then yes you are screwing the rest of us. If you are accepting bribes from foreign governments then yes. If you are using insider knowledge as a politician to trade stocks yes as well.
If you write a book, probably not.
JTOSU
Ranger
Your three sentences are all crimes. Anyone doing those should be charged.
But that is just saying squirrel. That has nothing to do with the federal government taking more from people that earn the money.
Then I guess you fully support impeachment and Trump’s removal from office.
I will give Bernie credit. He does believe what he says and he is consistent in messaging (nobody in history has said the word “oligarchy” as much as Bernie).
However, he fans the flames of class warfare and conveniently never states that the rich already pay an enormous amount in taxes.
Look at the first graph below at the horrible economic harm the wealthy have suffered at the hands of the government.
Such siloed, concrete, and inelastic thought. Every time this subject is brought up, you take a complex issue with clear data and ignore all of it. You focus on one specific point that misses the boat completely.
Anyone that has the capacity to get past the single item of "amount of tax paid" and look at why they are paying a lot of tax will see it is because they have more of the money. The tax rate has not affected them at all relative to the benefits the government provides them. The idea that there is some sort of inherent "fairness" to making people with very little money pay tax on it while the people with more money than they can maintain without a team of accountants should "get to keep what they earn" as if the government did not set up the system that has allowed this mismatch is naive.
This one ends in 2012 unfortunately but I'm guessing it did not get better. Look at what happened the last time our government allowed wealth to get this concentrated.
JTOSU
Ranger
You, again, are adding things I’ve never mentioned. Nowhere did I state, or have I ever stated, anything about fairness of “making people with very little money pay tax”. I have no desire to increase taxes on any income level.
My point is the wealthy already overwhelming pay “their fair share”…and Bernie is a big ring leader of class warfare. We do not need to take more from them…we need our government to be more efficient and reduce spending. Spending is the issue, not revenue. I
Because I don't like politicians, ANY politicians, getting rich for simply being a politician? That has nothing to do with team and everything to do with country.
Let someone else live in your head for a while, your same old replies to me are boring.
Guess you fully support Trumps impeachment and removal from off office as well. Dude has made billions in the last year due to his status.
What you are saying is the same, only different wording to spin it. When speaking of fairness, the money HAS to come from someone. If you are saying that the wealthy "overwhelmingly pay" then that means that you expect that money to come from somewhere else. The options are the non-wealthy, and debt. And don't start with blah, blah, blah reduce spending. Yes, we should reduce spending. But has not happened, and even if so there is no math where we can reduce spending to the point of lower taxes and resolution of $38T in debt. It is an easy-out red herring to the tax discussion.
JTOSU
Ranger
Reducing spending is not “blah, blah, blah”. That is a cop-out.
And no, I neither said nor implied that because the wealthy overwhelming fund the government that I expect it to come from somewhere else. You continue attempting to add words to my posts that aren’t there. If we had good policies, the rich would pay even a higher % of IRS funds and no taxes would increase.
There absolutely is math to reduce spending. But yes, it becomes more of a problem the longer we continue to be okay with deficit spending and not fixing social security.
It is blah, blah, blah as proven by decades of it not happening.
You are against illegal immigration. If I proposed the answer to illegal immigration is to make their home countries so wealthy and safe they don't want to leave that is a great plan, other than it doesn't ever happen. Bringing it up in a current immigration discussion is a red herring to the things occurring.
It never happens, the math doesn't work without incredible upheaval. It is a small part of fixing the problem but it is nowhere near a solution.
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