Philosophy & Religion Thread

[LaB_OkState]

This part of the discussion right now reminds me of this book: The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self: Cultural Amnesia, Expressive Individualism, and the Road to Sexual Revolution
https://share.google/9BCcLUo8LVAweqQPy

@GratefulPoke you might find this guy interesting in terms of what you brought up about transhumanism. I think his next big work is going to be on that subject.

 

[LaB_OkState]

I’ve shared thoughts on “soul mate” which is a concept that comes from Platonic Gnosticism.

Neo-Gnosticism has become the default worldview in our culture. It began with Descartes, “I think therefore I am.” It has become “I think is what I am.” Whereas in classical Gnosticism, the dualism is spirit and material, the spirit is true self and material body is non-self; in neo-Gnosticism the mind is true self And the body is non-self. In this view it makes perfect sense to modify the non-self body to match the true self mind. It is also perfectly consistent to say things like “trans are the most highly evolved members of society” because they were brave enough to modify their nonself bodies to match their true self minds.

@RxCowboy this reminded me of this discussion and I thought you might find it interesting:

AI: A Systematic Theology of a Neo-Gnostic Movement | Modern Reformation

For most people today, AI is just a tool—like other tech inventions throughout history. But, as John Culkin observed, “We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us.” It is beyond my competence to opine on the transformative impacts of AI. However, there is a profoundly influential...

www.modernreformation.org

 

[RxCowboy]

I think you are oversimplifying.

People of faith tend to want to attribute a similar level of faith in people without faith, hence the common "Atheism is a religion!"

The reality, when you talk to those people, they often have a wide variety of feelings on these subjects and those feelings are fluid as it is unknown. I think very few live forever in a "what I think is what I am."

Maybe I’m not doing an adequate job of explaining what I mean by “default worldview.”

People buy Sooners hats at Loves but can’t tell you what the team’s record is, who the next game is against, or whether the next game is home or away. The Sooners are the “default”. Of course they don’t live purposely in a what I think is what I am, it is a default condition like buying a hat at Loves. Their worldview is an amalgamation. My former sister in law, the redhead’s sister, claims to be an atheist but also claims that her mom and dad are both in heaven, atheist heaven I guess. But “I think therefore I am” is what the majority of the hats at Loves are made of.

 

[PF5]

 

[RxCowboy]

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No one has posted in this thread in favor of Christian nationalism. Let's please confine that discussion to that thread.

 

[PJ-OSU]

Not sure if this link works or not, but it hits me straight in the feels.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/s/sGPkzwzOKQ

 

[RxCowboy]

Not sure if this link works or not, but it hits me straight in the feels.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/s/sGPkzwzOKQ

That was beautiful.