See my post above. The only areas in Tulsa that don't have a homeless problem is a few high scale neighborhoods. Even Riverparks is unsafe now.
Tulsa spent $millions to make Turkey Mt. a nice safe nature trail and it's not.
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Tulsa spent $millions to make Turkey Mt. a nice safe nature trail and it's not.
Online is a cesspool. Rochester MN (pretty progressive in general) had a woman call a kid the n word at a park and it was caught on video. Her gofundme raised 6 figures for her and some of the comments/donor names were beyond reprehensible. Some people just want to be terrible human beings.
PF5
Sheriff
I stand by my quote on Stitt...what he/they did is NOT compassionate...Again, I don't feel that usual Facebook trolls mean racism is alive AND well. It rears it's ugly head and is quickly berated.
Here's what he's doing that you don't feel is compassionate.
He's also giving people a chance to get help instead of living like this on public property. This doesn't even address the many many more who are squatting on private property, so far, the city of Tulsa has taken no action on that issue.
39K views · 1.2K reactions | This encampment was up against the backyard fence line of numerous family homes in Tulsa. Residents had been living in a state of fear— their properties were consistently trespassed, vandalized and burglarized. It’s unac
This encampment was up against the backyard fence line of numerous family homes in Tulsa. Residents had been living in a state of fear— their properties were consistently trespassed, vandalized and...www.facebook.com
You feel it's more compassionate to let them starve and overdose and live in inhumane conditions?
The Tulsa "elite" feel this way too. They give one of the homeless $10 a week from their car window so they can buy a hit of fentanyl and then scream at the horrors of trying to get them off the streets.
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Sheriff
I feel that saying they will be taken to a treatment facility or jail was stupid and unrealistic to say...first of all, they would/did not do either one of those...the non profit groups that shelter say there is no more room, so let´s just traumatize them?...he had no intention of helping the homeless, just wanted to ´clean up´...his ṕlan´ was/is uncompassionate!
There has to be a plan in place, and it would take years to do it properly (I´m assuming), not just a week of clearing them out of one area and displacing them to another area.
Tulsa is doing a lot. City and Community. There are countless non-profits pushing for housing. MHAO is the 2nd largest landlord in town only to Case and their Mission is to keep people off the streets. Then you have THA. There are several tiny home developments going in now. City Lights (feeds, clothes, treats) anyone who can walk up every Thursday Night (rain or shine). List goes on, that's just what's on the top of my head.
I'm not an expert on this, but it really seems that you just can throw enough at this issue. But if people are creating camps on the backside of housing fence lines, there should be some action. Camping in or around highways/bridges is also extremely dangerous for everyone.
We were downtown yesterday at the Performing Arts Center. There were noticeably fewer homeless persons and tents.
Rob is exaggerating or conflating panhandlers w homeless persons. Tulsa is not overrun or unsafe. Like most metro areas there are pockets where it’s not safe. And that also means it’s not safe for people who are homeless.
We live in Stillwater now but called Tulsa home for over 20 years. In the early 90’s downtown was very safe. Then they rebuilt the jail and bus station and the homeless population exploded. We served at several of the downtown ministries and there are plenty of people that care about this issue. To a person they all expressed that most of the ones wanting out of homelessness took advantage of the ministries and resources.
My original post was not respectful. I do think Stitt is correct in wanting to fix the problem. He was not correct in blaming the new mayor. The current county sheriff who runs the jail has been in place for a decade and is MAGA. He could be a part of the solution.
We don’t talk to each other any more. We talk over and blame. That has to stop if we want to solve problems.
How many racist posts from the “usual Facebook trolls” does it take before one is entitled to conclude racism is alive and well?
I’m just talking ballpark numbers.
You live in Oklahoma, do you consider racism alive and well?
If you do then you must consider it alive and well across the nation, maybe even the world.
It was alive and well through the 60's and 70's. Not so much now.
How many turd comments on social media does it take for you to consider it alive and well?
I tend to go with what I see in real life, all around me instead of finding my rage or happiness on the internet.
That's because they have been moved from downtown.
I'm not exaggerating or conflating anything, we've owned rental properties in every area of Tulsa and are now at the give up stage and selling them all.
This, I can agree, is going backward.
You couldn’t be more wrong on this.
My soon to be son in law is a naturalized citizen from a Spanish speaking country. He, his mom, sister and brother were at lunch in Stillwater this summer. They speak Spanish often when at Mexican restaurants. Partly to make their waiters/waitresses more at ease. They happened to be doing this on a Sunday when a woman dressed in Sunday best walks by and says to her husband “They should speak English or go back to where they came from not realizing all were citizens and 2 were born here.
Two of my daughter’s best friends who are black were w her and another Caucasian female eating at Chick-fil-A in Edmond. A table of 8 boomers were sitting nearby. The 4 girls were laughing and being a little loud when one of the men came to their table and asked “why the 2 white girls were buying lunch for their black friends.”
Want another? I was working trunk or treat 2 years ago at an organization on campus that serves families going to school at OSU. Primarily these families are international students. A truck drives by w young men and they scream obscenities at a Muslim family who were crossing the street w 2 kids under 8 coming to trick or treat. Saw this one. Heard it.
Had my pool remodeled this summer and struck a friendship w one of the workers. He is from around Mexico City and here legally. His wife was born in the US as were their 4 kids. Last fall he had a gun pulled on he and his crew by a homeowner bc they were speaking Spanish. That’s it. They were working a hard job and as I understand from my son in law it’s easier and more productive for them to communicate technical issues on hard projects in native language. This makes sense but the homeowner apparently did not like it so he went in got a shotgun and came back out.
You are absolutely delusional at best and something else at worst if you stand by your claim that racism doesn’t exist alive and well in 2025.
Still not right Rob.
Was it alive and well when people were referring to Obama as the "n word" president? Do you think we have become more progressive or less in the last decade when it comes to racial issues in Oklahoma and the country as a whole?
I never heard one person refer to Obama in such a way. But I'm sure it was all over social media.
I think we've (Oklahoma) become far more intolerant to racism over the last decade. I can't speak for other states.
Nice. So just existing is alive and well in your book. Not mine.
I heard it with my own ears. Believe me or don't but it happened. Were there any schools in the state that had racial issues pop up around their homecoming last year? When was the last time you heard a joke where someone had to look around before they told it?
Heck, how have people reacted with some of the stuff that has been going on nationwide the past few months?
Polds4OSU
Marshall
My father was a police officer for 15+ years in multiple small towns around Oklahoma
In 1997 two of his old Friends from his law enforcement days brought their Oklahoma Highway Patrol cars to his place because he had a big enclosed shop and they were getting new light bars installed on their cruisers. Dad let the guy installing use his place and he and his buddies sit around talking
At one point I was out looking at the cars and what they were doing etc when one of the OHP patrol officers approached me and asked if I wanted to see the weapons they got to carry
I was excited and he showed me the shotgun and pistol in the cab of the cruiser etc. then he popped open the trunk, pulled out a ballistics vest, then a big ass stick that had a handle and strap on it. It was a good 3 ft long and was very similar to the length of a baseball bat
He then pointed it right at me asked me if I knew what that was ? I told him I did not and I will never forget his response
He proudly exclaimed. "That's my Ni***r beating stick, can't be too careful when you pull over a ni***r in Oklahoma"
I will never forget that and I've always suspected every OHP officer I've met since was a racist POS
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