Israel launches preemptive strike against Iran

[cowboyinexile]

Iraq had a population of 22 million in 1998 with a standing army of ~430k troops and no air force and no tanks or armor as the Gulf war by Bush 1 had destroyed the vast majority of it


There has not been an ongoing conflict that has weakened the Iranian military like Iraq faced after the 1st Gulf War

Iran currently has the 9th largest standing army on the planet with ~910k 610k active and 300+k reservist. The largest army of any Middle Eastern county

They have a Navy that has Destroyers, frigates, and 20+ submarines

They have an air force with ~500 aircraft

They have 2000+ ballistic missiles with range to hit all of Europe and most of Asia

They have ~1800 tanks

300 helicopters

~2500 mobile artillery units

~500 armored personnel carriers and troop fighting vehicles

They also have a population of 92 million people

They also control the shipping lanes of 25% of the entire Earth oil supply

This would be the largest country / military attacked by the US since Vietnam and they are bigger than Vietnam was

Fools errand to compare 1998 Iraq with 2025 Iran

The first thing they would do is shut down the strait of Hormuz and oil prices would go up 200-400% overnight

Iraq had the 4th largest army in the world during desert storm and they didn't even last a week.

Iran hasn't been through anything like Iraq was in desert storm but they have seen their military leadership go up in smoke the past week. Those would be greatly missed if we were to invade the country.

But I wasn't trying to debate how difficult invading would be. Im asking what are the odds this is more than a dog and pony show where we drop a couple of bombs, say mission accomplished, and tell Israel they got it from here?

 

[Polds4OSU]

Iraq had the 4th largest army in the world during desert storm and they didn't even last a week.

Iran hasn't been through anything like Iraq was in desert storm but they have seen their military leadership go up in smoke the past week. Those would be greatly missed if we were to invade the country.

But I wasn't trying to debate how difficult invading would be. Im asking what are the odds this is more than a dog and pony show where we drop a couple of bombs, say mission accomplished, and tell Israel they got it from here?

Then this is on VERY expensive dog and pony show

We have moved 32 air tankers , 2 full air craft carrier strike groups which Include up to 20-25 support ships including guided missile destroyers and fast attack Nuclear subs EACH

F22's , F35 , F16 and C130s have been moved from across Europe to the Middle East

At least 2 B2 stealth bombers have left the US to destination unknown and haven't been seen since and no one knows where they are

2 units of air force nuclear sniffer air crews and planes have been conducting flights over the Northern planes in what was assumed to be training missions and they are now deploying to the Middle East..these are high altitude planes that identify, find, detect all things nuclear above ground, below ground and in the air


That's a CRAP ton of money to spend to move all that and mobilize and activate all of that if your just going to do some bombing runs

 

[cowboyinexile]

Then this is on VERY expensive dog and pony show

We have moved 32 air tankers , 2 full air craft carrier strike groups which Include up to 20-25 support ships including guided missile destroyers and fast attack Nuclear subs EACH

F22's , F35 , F16 and C130s have been moved from across Europe to the Middle East

At least 2 B2 stealth bombers have left the US to destination unknown and haven't been seen since and no one knows where they are

2 units of air force nuclear sniffer air crews and planes have been conducting flights over the Northern planes in what was assumed to be training missions and they are now deploying to the Middle East..these are high altitude planes that identify, find, detect all things nuclear above ground, below ground and in the air


That's a CRAP ton of money to spend to move all that and mobilize and activate all of that if your just going to do some bombing runs

We just spent more on a birthday parade for comrade president. I don't think a detailed cost analysis is gonna deter us from a show of strength.

 

[Stillwaterman]

That would more likely be a start of a long, terror filled war than the end of anything.

I agree that it could lead to that and that's why lean towards just staying out. The US military shouldn't be a solution to everything.

 

[cowboyinexile]

I agree that it could lead to that and that's why lean towards just staying out. The US military shouldn't be a solution to everything.

We should only be a solution to problems we create!!!

 

[Stillwaterman]

We should only be a solution to problems we create!!!

I don't know if I want to be that either.

 

[cowboyinexile]

I don't know if I want to be that either.

I was joking. We would have more theaters than AMC.

 

[Polds4OSU]

MAGA conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer has unleashed on right-wing host Tucker Carlson in a wild expletive filled social media tirade, accusing him of betraying President Trump on Iran.

https://www.threads.com/@thedailybeast/post/DLGluFHIXWB?xmt=AQF0TkFVDqTYOS1HcCCuiedxLF2wyCOoPv5JhuHto1Db1g

 

[Stillwater Townie]

Col. Douglas Macgregor in an interesting interview on the Israel/Iran conflict. He wants the truth paid attention to, rather than big lies.

If Trump wises up, he will betray his Israel donor money and tell Netanyahu that he has changed his mind and Israel is on its own with Iran. If the price of oil skyrockets over $100, it won't be because he caused it with his own ordered missile strikes.

 

[Polds4OSU]

This missile is thought to be capable of carrying a Nuclear Warhead and can have a range up to 2000km.​

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New missile enters Israel-Iran conflict: What we know about Tehran's Sejil - Heavy​

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MSN

 

[Polds4OSU]

World Renowned Research Lab destroyed in Israel by Iranian Attacks.

Weizmann Institute in Rehovot Established in 1934

The Weizmann Institute is a globally recognized research hub. Its scholars produce hundreds of papers annually, and it boasts one Nobel laureate in chemistry and three Turing Award winners.

Iran attack destroys $50m 'crown jewel' of Israeli science in devastating blow​

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MSN

 

[Polds4OSU]

U.S. F-22 Raptors Are Deploying To The Middle East June 20th​

They will join the F-22 (standard) and F 35's that deployed on June 17th already in the Middle East

MSN

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[Polds4OSU]

Wow — Bannon calls @kayleighmcenany “infantile” and “dangerous” for pushing for war, and says @seanhannity & Fox seem to be “representing a foreign government” and “there should be an investigation”

The Tennessee Holler (@thetnholler) on Threads

Wow — Bannon calls @kayleighmcenany “infantile” and “dangerous” for pushing for war, and says @seanhannity & Fox seem to be “representing a foreign government” and “there should be an investigation”

www.threads.com

 

[Polds4OSU]

The reporter asked, "Your intelligence community said they have no evidence that Iran is building a nuclear weapon?"

President Trump responded, "My intelligence community is wrong. Who said that?" The reporter replied, "Your DNI Tulsi Gabbard." Trump firmly stated, "She is wrong."

Aaron Parnas (@aaronparnas) on Threads

The reporter asked, "Your intelligence community said they have no evidence that Iran is building a nuclear weapon?" President Trump responded, "My intelligence community is wrong. Who said that?" The reporter replied, "Your DNI Tulsi Gabbard." Trump firmly stated, "She is wrong."

www.threads.com

 

[Polds4OSU]

BREAKING: In stunning turnaround DNI Tulsi Gabbard makes 180 degree shift on Iran, says “America has intelligence that Iran is at the point that it can produce a nuclear weapon within weeks to months, if they decide to finalize the assembly”

Danny Krikorian (@dannykpolitics) on Threads

BREAKING: In stunning turnaround DNI Tulsi Gabbard makes 180 degree shift on Iran, says “America has intelligence that Iran is at the point that it can produce a nuclear weapon within weeks to months, if they decide to finalize the assembly”

www.threads.com

 

[cowboyinexile]

BREAKING: In stunning turnaround DNI Tulsi Gabbard makes 180 degree shift on Iran, says “America has intelligence that Iran is at the point that it can produce a nuclear weapon within weeks to months, if they decide to finalize the assembly”

Danny Krikorian (@dannykpolitics) on Threads

BREAKING: In stunning turnaround DNI Tulsi Gabbard makes 180 degree shift on Iran, says “America has intelligence that Iran is at the point that it can produce a nuclear weapon within weeks to months, if they decide to finalize the assembly”

www.threads.com

 

[Polds4OSU]

President Donald Trump has bizarrely claimed that the Iraq War took place in a “pre-nuclear” era as he tried to justify the possibility of a U.S. attack on Iran.

The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) on Threads

President Donald Trump has bizarrely claimed that the Iraq War took place in a “pre-nuclear” era as he tried to justify the possibility of a U.S. attack on Iran.

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[Stillwater Townie]

It looks like a puppet on a string who just got a new master.

 

[Pokey]

President Donald Trump has bizarrely claimed that the Iraq War took place in a “pre-nuclear” era as he tried to justify the possibility of a U.S. attack on Iran.

The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) on Threads

President Donald Trump has bizarrely claimed that the Iraq War took place in a “pre-nuclear” era as he tried to justify the possibility of a U.S. attack on Iran.

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Dumber than a box of rocks

 

[Polds4OSU]

NEWS: B2 Stealth Bombers appear to have left a Missouri air base overnight on their way toward Guam as Trump prepares for a national security meeting today at 6 PM.

These are the planes that would be needed to strike Iran, if he gives the green light.

Aaron Parnas (@aaronparnas) on Threads

NEWS: B2 Stealth Bombers appear to have left a Missouri air base overnight on their way toward Guam as Trump prepares for a national security meeting today at 6 PM. These are the planes that would be needed to strike Iran, if he gives the green light.

www.threads.com

NEWS: Steve Bannon says “party is on” referring to Iran.

Take it with a grain of salt, but Bannon does have the President's ear and dined with the President this week.

Aaron Parnas (@aaronparnas) on Threads

NEWS: Steve Bannon says “party is on” referring to Iran. Take it with a grain of salt, but Bannon does have the President's ear and dined with the President this week.

www.threads.com