ICE

What I read there is:

Apparently lawfully armed citizen in an open carry state.

ICE attempt to disarm and seize his firearm with no reasonable suspicion of a crime being committed in violation of Terry v. Ohio.

When lawfully carrying citizen resists the illegal seizure of his property and person, ICE officers kill him with multiple firearm shots while other officers are holding him down.

What I don’t read is evidence he was brandishing a firearm at any point.

Btw: you have a legal right to resist a false arrest/seizure of your person.

Also, btw: That alleged fear of the shooting ICE officers has must be a REASONABLE fear of death or great bodily injury. I don’t see how anyone could have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury when at least four of your thug buddies have him pinned to the ground. Hell, firing on him at that point endangered his fellow thug buddies more than the victim did.
Unfortunately, the law doesn’t matter if the political appointees say “self-defense from a domestic terrorist “ and prevent the professionals from doing any investigation like they did last time.
 
I think this one facet of Trump frustrated and pisses me off the most and why people who voted for him are marks at best and absolute horrible people at worst. Complete lack of leadership and the ability to make decisions on what’s best for our country. He proves it time and again.

Think back to Jan 6th 2021. You can argue ideology all day. What you can’t escape is that people unnecessarily died that day. Others had their lives completely changed forever and in some cases ruined. Parents lost kids. Kids lost parents. All preventable. All unnecessary. BOTH SIDES

This month we are seeing the exact same thing. Renee Good. Us citizens, immigrants and Alex Pretti. Again you can’t escape the complete and utter lack of necessity. Again BOTH SIDES.

And one man. One individual could step forward and deliver words to a hurting city. A suffering nation. But we get nothing. He sits alone in front of a tv consuming news and shit posting on social media. Both days. The exact same.

And we had 1/2 of the electorate vote for this. It’s the same thing. You might like his policies but you can’t escape what an awful human being he is. Devoid of kindness, not just towards immigrants and protestors, but to also ICE and law enforcement.

We need leadership. What you delivered upon us was death. Unnecessary death and destruction.
 
Domestic Terrorism for the FBI’s purposes is referenced in U.S. Code at 18 U.S.C. 2331(5),
and is defined as activities:
• Involving acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United
States or of any State;
• Appearing to be intended to:
o Intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
o Influence the policy of government by intimidation or coercion; or
o Affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping;
and
• Occurring primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.

sooooo domestic terrorism is ICE...
 
Unfortunately, the law doesn’t matter if the political appointees say “self-defense from a domestic terrorist “ and prevent the professionals from doing any investigation like they did last time.
Yep, and that’s where we are at right now.
 
Well, @Rob B. , I noticed you got really quiet. To be clear, you don’t owe anyone a 24/7 stream of consciousness, but would love to hear your take of the situation.

I’d also like to point out that this is the federal government that has killed another citizen. Not the local police, but federal officers that are answerable to one man. I just can’t believe we’re at a point where officials that only answer to the president have now killed two American citizens and Trump supporters seem ok with this. Where do you stand? Are you ready to say this is wrong and changes need to be made? I asked you after the last time this happened - you said you’d like to see changes but how far are you willing to go to protect American citizens from their government? Even the citizens you may not agree with.

Police kill citizens, but they are local officers. This is the FEDERAL government. The federal government is now killing US citizens on US streets. The government says he was armed and means to do harm, but we had video proving the opposite. Are you going to believe we have always been at war with Eastasia?

I ask you again - what’s it going to take for Trump to lose your support? To say this is wrong and something has to be done. I think you want what is best for the country. Use your eyes and heart and head here. Use your soul. You know this is wrong and we can’t let the federal government continue to do this.
 
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