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[Rob B.]

We now return you to your previously interrupted Poldsbot media.

 

[Vakarian74]

See previous post...
Also see the post referencing those of you who initially insisted she did nothing that she actually did.

So it's an extreme position to say that she was just trying to help with her kids or whatever you said, but it's it's not an extremist position to say that she deserve to die. What the hell is wrong with you? And that's not me saying you said that, but you're not going after any of the people that are saying that so therefore all of us in here that are against you are saying that you are defending extremist by not going after the people that are willing to be OK with killing somebody for trying to leave the scene that is the problem between you JT and me and everybody else you have a completely different idea of what morals are you were OK with people dying because it goes against your political beliefs. I am not OK with anybody dying. I wasn't OK with Charlie Puth. I wasn't OK with anybody in being killed for these political bullshit, but you are fine with it and I am tired of people acting like both sides are the same type of extreme you are the extremist not the other side people that are wanting to help and stop killing are not extremist you are.

 

[Rob B.]

If you don't like anyone breaking the law, why would you break the law yourself?

What law is it that I broke?

 

[Polds4OSU]

 

[Vakarian74]

What law is it that I broke?

Guarantee you shave sped, guarantee you have jay walked you've broken. A lot of laws in your life because everybody does. so you obviously don't care about laws when it's you doing it. You only care when it's people you don't like or or against things that you like.

 

[HacklemanPoke]

My guess is many of here forget that that immigration policies of the Trump administration are the same that President Clinton supported (people should listed to his 1995 SOTU address); President Obama supported (in his first term); and Candidate Hillary Clinton spoke about numerous times. Specifically for immigration policy, the liberals have moved to an extremest left viewpoint. A viewpoint much different than what both Democrats and Republican alike supported.

The debate should not be about the need to curtail illegal immigration…it should be about the current tactics imposed. Other than far-right MAGA, I haven’t seen anyone support 1) the need for ICE to be wearing masks; 2) or shooting and killing a protester in their car in the middle of the street.

I haven’t seen one post from “many on here” that advocate for the position you seem to be insinuating. Nearly every post in this thread has been about the tactics being imposed.

Less than 6 hours ago my daughter and future SiL were returning from out of country. He is a naturalized citizen. Did it the right way and has lived a very hard life. He is a phenomenal young man. Has traveled the world.

Just 6 hours ago they both went through immigration on their return. Used the facial recognition line. My blonde haired daughter got the familiar ding and was waved through. Fiancé who looks white in every way. Got the red x and was pushed from the line to be taken for further “questioning.” My daughter wanted to keep eyes on him and was cursed at and ordered to leave the area. As she slow played it an agent stood and began walking towards her. Luckily her smarts took over and she realized that if she wanted to be able to help him she couldn’t do it if she was being held.

He has a spotless record. Not even a traffic stop. Proud OSU alum as are his mom, dad, sister and brother. 2 masters degrees, a JD and 2 engineers. Did everything the right way. He has traveled the world on visa, green card and now US passport. Has his citizenship # memorized. And he was treated harshly and intimidated bc of his naturalization process and birth country. They were scared shitless at 6 am all bc “his college hadn’t updated his citizenship status.” Which by the way is bs.

So yeah. I’m chippy today and have been on edge since they left.

But there is no one on her taking an extreme left position. If so I may have missed it. But good to have you back w partials. You complement the mark well.

 

[Polds4OSU]

A WSJ visual investigation found that the Minneapolis ICE killing is one of 13 times federal immigration agents have used deadly force against civilians in vehicles since July.

The Wall Street Journal (@wsj) on Threads

A WSJ visual investigation found that the Minneapolis ICE killing is one of 13 times federal immigration agents have used deadly force against civilians in vehicles since July.

www.threads.com

 

[Polds4OSU]

Above the law

Acting ICE Director Todd Lyons dared Philadelphia Sheriff Rochelle Bilal to follow through on her threat to arrest immigration agents who come to her city and “commit a crime.”

Mediaite (@mediaite) on Threads

Acting ICE Director Todd Lyons dared Philadelphia Sheriff Rochelle Bilal to follow through on her threat to arrest immigration agents who come to her city and “commit a crime.”

www.threads.com

 

[steross]

My guess is many of here forget that that immigration policies of the Trump administration are the same that President Clinton supported (people should listed to his 1995 SOTU address); President Obama supported (in his first term); and Candidate Hillary Clinton spoke about numerous times. Specifically for immigration policy, the liberals have moved to an extremest left viewpoint. A viewpoint much different than what both Democrats and Republican alike supported.

The debate should not be about the need to curtail illegal immigration…it should be about the current tactics imposed. Other than far-right MAGA, I haven’t seen anyone support 1) the need for ICE to be wearing masks; 2) or shooting and killing a protester in their car in the middle of the street.

There is no debate about the need for policies to curtail illegal immigration by anyone posting here. That is a BS red herring. In fact, congress should have passed the law last year that would have significantly improved policy. But, our current president was much more intersted in getting elected and personal credit so he forced that law to be blocked. Policy is not the primary issue. The issue is 100% the unjust, unethical and racist tactics.

You must have forgotten the part of the 1995 speech and the key component of the 1995 proposal which was workplace enforcement for employers, which has been completely ignored by the current administration.

 

[CowboyJD]

TBEMH, if you'll notice when the MAGA comes out is when the circle has started jerking the hardest. You guys call it trolling, it probably is because I use it to try to show them what they are doing from the left. It's my own demented version of reverse psychology.

I promise you we are not that different and neither of us likes being lumped with the extremists.

Maybe instead of bringing out the MAGA as “reverse psychology”, how about just taking the more moderate view that you actually believe.

I’d bet you’d get called an extremist a whole lot less often.

This ICE shooting discussion is a pretty good example.

 

[HacklemanPoke]

So you believe the system isn't flooded?
Are they seeking increases or legal immigration?

Nevermind, you'll just throw the race card.

I didn’t make a claim. You did

For the record I do think the entire system is overwhelmed. I’ve said many times on here “Fix the system.” The entire from the border to the courts to the detainment/deportation. Fix the financial aspect of it. All of it. Do it through Congress and sign it into permanent law. Not this 3 yr bs so they can raise money and run on it.

 

[Polds4OSU]

 

[HacklemanPoke]

See previous post...
Also see the post referencing those of you who initially insisted she did nothing that she actually did.

She did nothing that warranted being executed.

 

[Rob B.]

She did nothing that warranted being executed.

You're still correct.

 

[CowboyJD]

I'm not backtracking anything. Did you read my post?

Let me translate it for you:
If you take an extremist position I will take an opposing extremist position in response to it. As stated, you call it trolling.

With much respect and bro-love….

Personally, I’m interested in hearing what you honestly, truly believe over what “reverse psychology” viewpoint you adopt to make a point.

It’s very confusing for me to try to figure which one is which.

 

[JTOSU]

There is no debate about the need for policies to curtail illegal immigration by anyone posting here.

ok. Good to know you support current illegal immigration policy.

You must have forgotten the part of the 1995 speech and the key component of the 1995 proposal which was workplace enforcement for employers, which has been completely ignored by the current administration.

I fully support what Clinton stated.

 

[Rob B.]

With much respect and bro-love….

Personally, I’m interested in hearing what you honestly, truly believe over what “reverse psychology” viewpoint you adopt to make a point.

It’s very confusing for me to try to figure which one is which.

I really truly believe that 2 people, not one, are equally responsible for the death of Renee Good.

 

[HacklemanPoke]

There is no debate about the need for policies to curtail illegal immigration by anyone posting here. That is a BS red herring. In fact, congress should have passed the law last year that would have significantly improved policy. But, our current president was much more intersted in getting elected and personal credit so he forced that law to be blocked. Policy is not the primary issue. The issue is 100% the unjust, unethical and racist tactics.

You must have forgotten the part of the 1995 speech and the key component of the 1995 proposal which was workplace enforcement for employers, which has been completely ignored by the current administration.

Trump himself has hired illegal immigrants at his businesses.

 

[JTOSU]

that's not me saying you said that, but you're not going after any of the people that are saying that so therefore all of us in here that are against you are saying that you are defending extremist by not going after the people that are willing to be OK with killing somebody for trying to leave the scene that is the problem between you JT and me and everybody else you have a completely different idea of what morals are you were OK with people dying because it goes against your political beliefs.

Periods and commas are your friend.

I am not OK with anybody dying. I wasn't OK with Charlie Puth.

Charlie Puth died? Sorry Charlie, I guess we won’t See You Again.

 

[CowboyJD]

I really truly believe that 2 people, not one, are equally responsible for the death of Renee Good.

Are we speaking according to your own sense of morality/responsibility or the law?

Because this still sounds a whole lot like blaming the victim for ICE shooting her when you have previously said that was shooting her was unwarranted by anything she actually did do.

Especially when you say “equally” responsible.