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Where's all the MAGA outrage over ICE agents getting $60,000 for student loan forgiveness? Shouldn't have taken out the loan if you couldn't pay it back!

All of these perks just to become part of the new Gestapo (although, the Gestapo actually showed their faces). I may just have to sign up and burn it down from the inside.
 
Who cares? I won't be in immigration court. This doesn't affect me.

Sure, until they start to use the tactic in other courts. Then, because you said to the wrong person that you aren't a fan of X or Y policy, suddenly you find yourself in court for "tax evasion" or "threatening the president" and a nameless, faceless lawyer presents completely falsified evidence, and you are convicted. Off you go to the for-profit prison that ran out of imigrants and will pay you a dollar a day (and put you in solitary if not) for your work.

Sure, that isn't happening to non-immigrants, yet. And you will change your mind about this government if it does. But, don't you think when opposition is jailed, that might be a little too late? And, you might be thinking, "They'd never do that." LOOK at the tactics. Do they lie?-clearly yes. Do they make false claims?- clearly yes. Do they anonymize their henchmen?-clearly yes. Do they have a ruthless person who is gaining more and more power over our governmental check and balances?-clearly yes.

Please, someone give me real evidence that I am wrong.


 
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Who cares? I won't be in immigration court. This doesn't affect me.

Sure, until they start to use the tactic in other courts. Then, because you said to the wrong person that you aren't a fan of X or Y policy, suddenly you find yourself in court for "tax evasion" or "threatening the president" and a nameless, faceless lawyer presents completely falsified evidence, and you are convicted. Off you go to the for-profit prison that ran out of imigrants and will pay you a dollar a day (and put you in solitary if not) for your work.

Sure, that isn't happening to non-immigrants, yet. And you will change your mind about this government if it does. But, don't you think when opposition is jailed, that might be a little too late? And, you might be thinking, "They'd never do that." LOOK at the tactics. Do they lie?-clearly yes. Do they make false claims?- clearly yes. Do they anonymize their henchmen?-clearly yes. Do they have a ruthless person who is gaining more and more power over our governmental check and balances?-clearly yes.

Please, someone give me real evidence that I am wrong.


Unfortunately, not only do MAGA's not care about political opposition being jailed, I believe they would openly encourage it and cheer it on. Even if it's a friend or neighbor.
 

“ICE applicants, previously required to be between 21 and 37 or 40, can now join as young as 18, with no upper age limit, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said on "Fox & Friends," adding that applicants will be trained and equipped to serve.”

18 year olds, straight out of high school (maybe even dropouts if there is no educational requirement) carrying guns and wearing masks with a near 6 figure job and $50k of bonus money in their pockets….
Awesome Season 2 GIF by PBS
Frustrated Ryan Gosling GIF
 

“ICE applicants, previously required to be between 21 and 37 or 40, can now join as young as 18, with no upper age limit, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said on "Fox & Friends," adding that applicants will be trained and equipped to serve.”

18 year olds, straight out of high school (maybe even dropouts if there is no educational requirement) carrying guns and wearing masks with a near 6 figure job and $50k of bonus money in their pockets….
Awesome Season 2 GIF by PBS
Frustrated Ryan Gosling GIF


Sounds like they are struggling to get enough recruits.

And yeah extending the qualifications to essentially breathing is pretty concerning.
 

That will have some serious legal ramifications.

If we are doing this now, how far does it go? Do we start taking DNA samples on everyone who emigrates here? Do we start collecting it at birth? Do we start "encouraging" adults to willingly submit samples for some sort of greater good?

And what happens if DNA evidence links someone to a crime. Is it admissible if the person didn't willingly provide a sample as a child? In the future to we start using this to screen for diseases and other health conditions? Do we let people know? If a child is born that has generic markers that indicate they are predisposed to alcoholism do we let them know? If the authorities have access to this data, do they start profiling drivers based on DNA information? That dude has a 74% chance of addiction and hes going slightly over the speed limit at midnight. Does the genetic makeup give them probable cause for a field sobriety test when otherwise they wouldn't have been pulled over for going 40 in a 35 residential area?

Im wondering if the people who think Bill Gates is putting chips in vaccines but think this is ok because most brown people are criminals anyways realizes the implication of being ok with this?
 
That will have some serious legal ramifications.

If we are doing this now, how far does it go? Do we start taking DNA samples on everyone who emigrates here? Do we start collecting it at birth? Do we start "encouraging" adults to willingly submit samples for some sort of greater good?

And what happens if DNA evidence links someone to a crime. Is it admissible if the person didn't willingly provide a sample as a child? In the future to we start using this to screen for diseases and other health conditions? Do we let people know? If a child is born that has generic markers that indicate they are predisposed to alcoholism do we let them know? If the authorities have access to this data, do they start profiling drivers based on DNA information? That dude has a 74% chance of addiction and hes going slightly over the speed limit at midnight. Does the genetic makeup give them probable cause for a field sobriety test when otherwise they wouldn't have been pulled over for going 40 in a 35 residential area?

Im wondering if the people who think Bill Gates is putting chips in vaccines but think this is ok because most brown people are criminals anyways realizes the implication of being ok with this?
IMO this is way beyond the pale, and reeks of NAZI or white supremacy in this administration
 
IMO this is way beyond the pale, and reeks of NAZI or white supremacy in this administration

Yeah. Im not a conspiracy person but there is no way in the world I would want my genetic information in a database that can be accessed by anyone. It would be like driving around looking for DUI checkpoints at night because you know you are good so nothing is gonna happen.

If I, a consenting adult would never do something like that willingly then I don't see how there should be an expectation that its ok for a minor who has no way to understand the ramifications of what is being done.
 
Yeah. Im not a conspiracy person but there is no way in the world I would want my genetic information in a database that can be accessed by anyone. It would be like driving around looking for DUI checkpoints at night because you know you are good so nothing is gonna happen.

If I, a consenting adult would never do something like that willingly then I don't see how there should be an expectation that its ok for a minor who has no way to understand the ramifications of what is being done.
There is no just or noble reason for taking somebodies DNA profile without their consent. Or even with their consent.

Best case scenario: It's used for tracking certain groups of people. Worst case scenario: Human testing and / or cleansing.
 
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