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Yes, if you go down to the next paragraph in the article it says this.

Note that terms such as “left-wing terrorism” and “right-wing terrorism” as used in this brief do not correspond to mainstream political parties in the United States, such as the Democratic and Republican parties, nor do they correspond to the overwhelming majority of political liberals and conservatives in the United States.

In many cases, clear ideological categorization of perpetrators is difficult. Former FBI Director Christopher Wray once referred to a “salad bar of ideologies,” where perpetrators of violence choose among an array of causes, many of which do not align with a traditional right-left dichotomy or other easy ideological classification.

My question is why do we label these groups left and right at all? Politically they are neither.

BTW both the Clan and NEO NAZI's are socialist just to pull two off the top of my head. Although they are racist first and foremost and will cross political lines if they feel it agrees with their racist agenda.
Thanks for elaborating your position. To make sure I am tracking though, you are asserting that the KKK and neonazi movements are not on the right wing continuum, but they are actually socialist?
 
Thanks for elaborating your position. To make sure I am tracking though, you are asserting that the KKK and neonazi movements are not on the right wing continuum, but they are actually socialist?
Somehow I don't think the idea of Whites Only vrs Government Funded support for Everyone are even on the same spectrum

But after some googling..I see I'm incorrect

Some Extreme Right groups believe that Socialism will work but ONLY in a racially and culturally Homogeneous Country...ie the. Socialism for the good of the race and culture is seen as a benefit for all that all will accept
 
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Somehow I don't think the idea of Whites Only vrs Government Funded support for Everyone are even on the same spectrum

But after some googling..I see I'm incorrect

Some Extreme Right groups believe that Socialism will work but ONLY in a racially and culturally Homogeneous Country...ie the. Socialism for the good of the race and culture is seen as a benefit for all that all will accept
There are also people called MAGA Communists, I'm pretty sure that is what the American Communist Party espouses.

But there are only dozens of them nationwide and no acts of violence or terrorism perpetrated by them. I'm sure that is the case with what you found with the group(s) that you looked into also.

Most extremists fall into a right or left camp as described by @CowboyJD 's article pretty cleanly.
 
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There are also people called MAGA Communists, I'm pretty sure that is what the American Communist Party espouses.

But there are dozens of them nationwide and no acts of violence or terrorism perpetrated by them. I'm sure that is the case with what you found with the group(s) that you looked into also.
I wasn't looking for any acts of terrorism and I have not read anything previous to this last page in this thread before that post . I was commenting on the idea of KKK Socialism
 
No gaslight, go count the posts where he says they're being persecuted because "race".
Show me one post where I said illegal immigrants that are criminals are being persecuted. Steross posted a video this morning that showed ICE agents at the home of a black family where a young black man was being detained and the family was wanting to see the warrant. If ICE conducted themselves to the letter of the law and that young man was not a US citizen but instead an illegal or legal resident and had committed a crime then detain him properly and civilly, charge him if new charges are warranted, and treat him in accordance with established US law.

I have consistently maintained that immigration is broken and the system needs a permanent congressional solution. The border needs to be secured by congressional authorization and appropriation.

What is happening, and the Trump admin went to court to allow, is racial profiling of anyone of color. There is video after video of this happening and it’s not effing ok. We don’t treat people this way. You might think it’s ok today and people are getting what they deserved if they just comply, but you are wrong bc one day politics will shift and I don’t want my kids or grand kids growing up in this mess.

I might be wrong for thinking this way but I don’t think either Babbit or Good got what they deserved. I actually feel for the agent that shot Good. I don’t think in the 30 seconds leading up to the trigger pull (heck even the 5 seconds leading up to it) he thought “I’m taking someone out.”

One person is to blame for all of this and I wish we could go just one damn day without him screwing up lives. It’s just nauseating. There are people who struggle every day just to keep their kids fed and warm and he does not care. And the Congress and cabinet that just sit on their hands w their mouths shut they don’t care. And if you think any of it or that someone got what they deserved or if they would have just complied is ok then you’ve shown me who you are. Doesn’t matter if we root for the same team on a sports basis, bc while sports are fun and probably my golden calf, they don’t make up for how people get treated.
 
BREAKING: Minnesota AG Keith Ellison announces lawsuit against DHS, ICE and Border Patrol.

"We allege that the obvious targeting of Minnesota for our diversity, for our democracy and our differences of opinion with the federal government is a violation of the Constitution and of federal law."

 
This is so wildly illegal. ICE is legally authorized only to engage in targeted immigration enforcement actions in which it knows in advance that someone is living in the United States illegally and has a warrant to execute an enforcement action upon them.



Walking the streets like they are law enforcement and have the same authority to demand ID as local police do is like something out of an authoritarian nightmare. They are essentially roving bands of criminals and nothing more than that.



Everyone of these ICE officers should be investigated and barred from any job within law enforcement



This is so incredibly un American



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Show me one post where I said illegal immigrants that are criminals are being persecuted. Steross posted a video this morning that showed ICE agents at the home of a black family where a young black man was being detained and the family was wanting to see the warrant. If ICE conducted themselves to the letter of the law and that young man was not a US citizen but instead an illegal or legal resident and had committed a crime then detain him properly and civilly, charge him if new charges are warranted, and treat him in accordance with established US law.

I have consistently maintained that immigration is broken and the system needs a permanent congressional solution. The border needs to be secured by congressional authorization and appropriation.

What is happening, and the Trump admin went to court to allow, is racial profiling of anyone of color. There is video after video of this happening and it’s not effing ok. We don’t treat people this way. You might think it’s ok today and people are getting what they deserved if they just comply, but you are wrong bc one day politics will shift and I don’t want my kids or grand kids growing up in this mess.

I might be wrong for thinking this way but I don’t think either Babbit or Good got what they deserved. I actually feel for the agent that shot Good. I don’t think in the 30 seconds leading up to the trigger pull (heck even the 5 seconds leading up to it) he thought “I’m taking someone out.”

One person is to blame for all of this and I wish we could go just one damn day without him screwing up lives. It’s just nauseating. There are people who struggle every day just to keep their kids fed and warm and he does not care. And the Congress and cabinet that just sit on their hands w their mouths shut they don’t care. And if you think any of it or that someone got what they deserved or if they would have just complied is ok then you’ve shown me who you are. Doesn’t matter if we root for the same team on a sports basis, bc while sports are fun and probably my golden calf, they don’t make up for how people get treated.
Get ready for they are all criminals because they entered illegally herp derp response.
 
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Frey: "There are countless more people who are undocumented in Florida and Texas and Utah. Why are they in these much smaller cities in the middle of the Midwest? The answer is very clear: it's politics. Florida and Texas and Utah are Republican states. The reason that Minnesota and Minneapolis are being targeted is because you've got a Democratic governor, a Democratic attorney general, and Dem mayors. We are doing everything possible to keep our cities safe through this unprecedented time."

 
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