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Marshall
What benefit to our country is there to remove Temporary Protected Status from people who have been in this country under TPS for decades? They’ve created homes and paid taxes and Social Security. They are our neighbors our family members and friends. But when the clock strikes midnight the day TPS is removed they are here illegally. What timeline have we created?
Do not ever profess faith, or pro family or pro life if you think removing TPS without some other safety nets for these families is instituted. Just say you’re a racist.
Do not ever profess faith, or pro family or pro life if you think removing TPS without some other safety nets for these families is instituted. Just say you’re a racist.
I think it really comes down to Stephen Miller having steep quotas for ICE to hit. They aren't going to even come close to those quotas going out and trying to find the few actual serious criminals here illegally. It is far easier to tell law-abiding people to show up at your office or go to their house and take them away.
The evidence that Miller is a racist is pretty strong. I think many people on the right/MAGA side have allowed their propaganda to get them so wound up that immigrants are killing people/taking jobs/ destroying our culture etc that they see these cruel policies as necessary evil to fix the harms they are fearing. Even if they are not true or at least greatly exaggerated.
It is interesting to see how the few right leaning people that post here tend to avoid certain threads and spend their time in others.
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Remember when it was brought up earlier that ICE was given the authority to conduct raids in churches, hospitals, and schools, and some people said saying that would happen was baseless fearmongering? Yeah, I remember that too.
And just like most everything else we still haven’t fixed the immigration problem. We’ve militarized it and made it a part of the penal system. Which over time will cost more money.
Dehumanizing people never solves problems. We must do the hard work and figure out a legitimate solution.
It costs $150k to deport one person. There are a lot of people making a ton of money.
Remember this when people say that we don't have enough money for education or for single payer healthcare.
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Sheriff
Comparing taxes paid by companies, people illegally in US
The claim that "Undocumented immigrants paid more taxes last year than Amazon, GM, IBM & Netflix combined” is Mostly True. Here’s why.
www.politifact.com
You make a great point. I’ve looked up some of the owners behind the companies of the private “detention centers.”
Really some fine upstanding families.
I don’t want to repost information but I didn’t see it in this thread. It’s reported that new ICE agents will make near $150,000. No education requirements for the position. Supervisors will make more than that. Again no reported education requirements.
Teachers on average in the US will be $100,000 (or a cool million over a decade) below those wages and must have a bachelor’s degree w many having a masters.
We need proper immigration enforcement. I’m not sure we are going to get it.
Notice when people are talking about "illegals" coming over and committing crimes, they are only talking about the brown ones. From south of the border. I wonder why there are no white immigrants being detained in the concentration camp(s). Where are the Canadians, Irish, Scandanavians, South Africans, etc. etc. that are here illegally?
Ask yourself that question and you'll have a pretty good indication if you're racist
Ask yourself that question and you'll have a pretty good indication if you're racist
DHS says this story is not true.
Sadly, at any other time in my life, if our government had made such a statement I would have immediately thought that it was a hoax and the governemnt is telling the truth.
With our current government, and the way the press release is written, I really don't know.
DHS Sets the Record Straight: ICE Never Deported Media’s “Allentown Grandfather” | Homeland Security
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) set the record straight on misleading and false reporting that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) “secretly deported” a so-called “Allentown grandfather” to Guatemala. Additionally, reporting claimed he “died” in ICE custody.
What's the point of this? He has been here legally for decades and in his 80's so clearly not involved in violent crime. We lied about his whereabouts.
What is the government trying to accomplish here? Just another example of telling some people they aren't welcome? Are we really that way now? Do people support this? Is cheaper eggs worth our soul as a nation?
The Guardian reported on it, I'd trust them over DHS currently.DHS says this story is not true.
Sadly, at any other time in my life, if our government had made such a statement I would have immediately thought that it was a hoax and the governemnt is telling the truth.
With our current government, and the way the press release is written, I really don't know.
DHS Sets the Record Straight: ICE Never Deported Media’s “Allentown Grandfather” | Homeland Security
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) set the record straight on misleading and false reporting that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) “secretly deported” a so-called “Allentown grandfather” to Guatemala. Additionally, reporting claimed he “died” in ICE custody.www.dhs.gov
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Marshall
S. MILLER: If you look at photos of the Empire State Building being built, you don’t see any illegal aliens. When you look at the photos of the NASA control room during the moon landing, you don’t see any illegal aliens.
Americans built, sustained, and powered this country for two and half centuries.
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Americans built, sustained, and powered this country for two and half centuries.
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MILLER: If you look at photos of the Empire State Building being built, you don’t see any illegal aliens. When you look at the photos of the NASA control room during the moon landing, you don’t see any illegal aliens. Americans built, sustained, and powered this country for two and half centuries.
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Someone should tell Miller about how the US built our network of railroads using only genuine American labor
Someone should mention Plymouth rock to him as well.
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Marshall
Or all those Former Plantations across the South.
Got a feeling Miller had no issue with those immigrants
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