Because every accusation from the GOP is a confession, I now 100% believe that Musk and others actually created this hurricane.
Hurricane Milton now Cat 4, forecast to reach Cat 5. Mike Johnson refuses to call Congress back to vote to Fund FEMA for 2024
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Haha. Why don't they just redraw the path and turn it further south.
Elected officials in the hardest hit parts of the country are knowingly sharing miss information for political gain
This thread isn't the problem..it's the result of their attempts to further divide and fear monger
I agree with you, it's insane.
On the flip side, I only see one group claiming that the hurricane was created by evil forces from the other side, one side that is refusing to return from vacation to appropriate FEMA funds, and one side that is convincing people that the media is lying about the severity.
People are going to die because they believe this absolutely insane nonsense. It shouldn't be a partisan issue, but here we are.
I think that's his point. This thread is a microcosm.
Q: The lies that Trump is spreading about FEMA are damaging. Will Trump stop doing this?
Trump press secretary: *keeps lying*
Q: Let’s keep to the facts. What Trump is saying isn’t true
Trump press secretary: I don’t think the American people care about the specifics
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Trump press secretary: *keeps lying*
Q: Let’s keep to the facts. What Trump is saying isn’t true
Trump press secretary: I don’t think the American people care about the specifics
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Q: The lies that Trump is spreading about FEMA are damaging. Will Trump stop doing this? Trump press secretary: *keeps lying* Q: Let’s keep to the facts. What Trump is saying isn’t true Trump press secretary: I don’t think the American people care about the specifics
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Biden: "All this misinformation going out about how we're devoting all this money to migrants, even one congresswoman suggesting I control the weather and implying I'm sending it to red states. This stuff is off the wall. It's like out of a comic book."
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Biden: "All this misinformation going out about how we're devoting all this money to migrants, even one congresswoman suggesting I control the weather and implying I'm sending it to red states. This stuff is off the wall. It's like out of a comic book."
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Here is possibly one source where MTG got the idea that lasers are being used to control hurricanes:
Activities subject to reporting.
Weather modification activities are defined as “Any activity performed with the intention of producing artificial changes in the composition, behavior, or dynamics of the atmosphere” (see 15 CFR § 908.1). The following, when conducted as weather modification activities, shall be reported (see 15 CFR § 908.3):
8. Using lasers or other sources of electromagnetic radiation; or
9. Other activities undertaken with the intent to modify the weather or climate, including solar radiation management activities and experiments.
FROM: https://library.noaa.gov/weather-climate/weather-modification-project-reports?sfnsn=scwspmo
Would MTG like to demand that the NOAA disclose reports it has gotten from companies involved in weather modification attempts? Or does she lack common sense and critical thinking skills to do that?
Activities subject to reporting.
Weather modification activities are defined as “Any activity performed with the intention of producing artificial changes in the composition, behavior, or dynamics of the atmosphere” (see 15 CFR § 908.1). The following, when conducted as weather modification activities, shall be reported (see 15 CFR § 908.3):
8. Using lasers or other sources of electromagnetic radiation; or
9. Other activities undertaken with the intent to modify the weather or climate, including solar radiation management activities and experiments.
FROM: https://library.noaa.gov/weather-climate/weather-modification-project-reports?sfnsn=scwspmo
Would MTG like to demand that the NOAA disclose reports it has gotten from companies involved in weather modification attempts? Or does she lack common sense and critical thinking skills to do that?
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Meteorologists Get Death Threats as Hurricane Milton Conspiracy Theories Thrive
Obviously, too many gullible people out there take conspiracy theory nuts seriously, rather than as disgusting jokes, such as for starters Alex Jones. Stew Peters and Mike Adams, along with chemtrail promoter fanatic Dane Wiggington. He has been described as a moron who doesn't know what he's talking about. Maybe someone needs to run a 24 hour a day channel all about debunking everything.Another thing to do about is to do the same thing that happened to Alex Jones. File a civil lawsuit against them. After doing his fake chemtrails and fear porn act for 20 years, it's time Wigginton got sued. Meteorologists have been getting a lot of death threats and harassment. Wigginton says climate collapse will cause the world to end by 2030. I wonder what he was saying in 2010. That the world would end in 2020?
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Republicans fact-check fellow Republicans on hurricane misinformation
As southern cities clean up the remnants of Hurricane Helene, several Republican lawmakers have also been tasked with cleaning up misinformation spread by some of their fellow GOP colleagues.
Shortly after Helene made landfall last month, inaccurate claims began to spread online about how the storm originated and whether it could target certain communities. Among those spreading the unsubstantiated claims was Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), who suggested the hurricane was targeting areas with predominantly Republican populations.
“Yes they can control the weather,” Greene said in a post on X, without clarifying who “they” is in reference to. “It’s ridiculous for anyone to lie and say it can’t be done.”
The post sparked rumors online about whether Democrats can control the strength of hurricanes and the path of which they travel, prompting GOP lawmakers representing cities affected by Helene to correct the record.
“NEW FLASH —> Humans cannot create or control hurricanes,” said Rep. Carlos Gimenez (R-FL), who represents Florida’s 28th Congressional District spanning the southwestern Miami area and the Florida Keys. “Anyone who thinks they can, needs to have their head examined.”
Rep. Chuck Edwards (R-NC), whose North Carolina district was also hit by the storm, even went so far as to issue an extensive press release debunking a slew of inaccurate claims about Hurricane Helene, including a blurb noting that “nobody can control the weather.”
“Charles Konrad, director of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Southeast Regional Climate Center, has confirmed that no one has the technology or ability to geoengineer a hurricane,” Edwards wrote. “Current geoengineering technology can serve as a large-scale intervention to mitigate the negative consequences of naturally occurring weather phenomena, but it cannot be used to create or manipulate hurricanes.”
Although there have been previous NOAA projects to experiment with weakening existing hurricanes, those efforts ended decades ago — and large storms such as hurricanes cannot be artificially created by humans.
Edwards fact-checked several other “outrageous rumors” about the hurricane and the response by the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
“FEMA is NOT stopping trucks or vehicles with donations, confiscating or seizing supplies, or otherwise turning away donations,” Edwards wrote. “FEMA has NOT diverted disaster response funding to the border or foreign aid. … FEMA is NOT going to run out of money.”
Concerns that FEMA would run out of money for disaster relief largely stem from comments by Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas last week when he warned that although the agency could meet immediate needs, it may not have enough funding to make it through the next few months.
In its short-term spending deal passed last month, Congress approved a provision to replenish FEMA’s funding ahead of the hurricane season. The bill also gave the federal agency the ability to request more money if needed.
FEMA also responded to concerns that it would run out of funds on a fact-check website page, noting that it has “enough funding to support Hurricane Helene efforts and FEMA has what it needs for immediate response and recovery efforts.”
The agency also reiterated that the FEMA director has the authority to spend what is allocated in the president’s budget but noted that “we’re not out of hurricane season yet so we need to keep a close eye on it.”
Other GOP lawmakers have dispelled those rumors, even as some Fox News hosts asserted that FEMA is already out of money. One of those exchanges occurred on Maria Bartiromo’s show, during which Rep. French Hill (R-AR) corrected claims about the agency being out of money.
“FEMA is not out of money, and this was made clear by the inspector general report saying Mayorkas has access to nearly $8 billion of funding from the FEMA disaster relief funds accumulated since 2012,” Hill said. “They have the money to take care of Florida, take care of North Carolina, and take care of Georgia. They need to get about delivering it and listening to what their governors are asking and meeting those governors’ requests.”
Hill also pushed back on claims that FEMA diverted disaster relief funds to illegal immigrants or border-related matters, noting that those funds are in a “completely different account.”
That assertion has been promoted by a number of Republicans, including former President Donald Trump, who has repeated the claim several times.
Other claims by Trump have also been debunked by GOP lawmakers, including comments on Monday that President Joe Biden had been missing calls from Gov. Brian Kemp (R-GA) related to hurricane relief. However, that came in direct contradiction to Kemp’s comments hours earlier that he had already spoken with Biden after he initially missed a call from the president. The governor said he called the president back right away and the two had a conversation.
Biden called out both Trump and Greene on Wednesday for "the onslaught of lies" about the responses to Hurricane Helene and incoming Hurricane Milton.
US Republicans condemn hurricane misinformation spread by their own party
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -As U.S. officials struggle to push back against misinformation about natural disasters hitting the country, at least three congressional Republicans condemned conspiracy theories repeated by fellow members of their party.Representative Chuck Edwards, who represents a North Carolina district hit hard by flooding caused by Hurricane Helene in late September, called out the "outrageous rumors" spread by "untrustworthy sources trying to spark chaos."
The flooding decimated much of North Carolina's inland west, an unexpected outcome in a state which is used to dealing with hurricanes along its Atlantic coast. Florida is now bracing for a direct hit from the powerful Hurricane Milton, headed for its western coast.
One of the sources of misinformation is fellow Republican Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, who has used both her official congressional social media account and her personal account to spread such misinformation.
"Ask your government if the weather is manipulated or controlled. Did you ever give permission to them to do it? Are you paying for it? Of course you are," Greene wrote in one such post on her official account on Monday.
Edwards directly called out this falsehood in his statement, without naming Greene.
"Nobody can control the weather," he said. "Please make sure you are fact checking what you read online with a reputable source."
Greene's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Representative Carlos Gimenez, a Florida Republican representing the very southern tip of the state, also condemned the conspiracy theories.
"News flash," he said in a Wednesday post on social media, responding directly to Greene's post. "Humans cannot create or control hurricanes. Anyone who thinks they can, needs to have their head examined."
U.S. Senator Thom Tillis, a Republican representing North Carolina, also said the "distraction" needs to stop.
"Many of these observations are not even from people on the ground," he told CNN on Sunday.
In a briefing on Wednesday, Democratic President Joe Biden slammed Republican former President Donald Trump for leading an "onslaught of lies," and called Greene's comments "bizarre" and "ridiculous."
"It's got to stop," Biden said. "In moments like this, there are no red or blue states."
Republicans in Congress call out hurricane misinformation coming from within their own party
Republicans are fighting a war against misinformation to keep their constituents safe as they brace for Hurricane Milton to make landfall in Florida, including being willing to point the finger at members of their own party — and their presidential nominee.
The Category 4 storm is forecast to touch down overnight Wednesday — even while across the South residents continue to recover from Hurricane Helene — Republicans in the path of the hurricanes have come out forcefully against those in their own party pushing debunked conspiracy theories which could put people in danger.
Republican Rep. Carlos Gimenez of Florida called out Georgia firebrand Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene on Wednesday telling her to get her “head examined” for suggesting someone is “controlling the weather.”
Last week, Greene, without specifying who “they” is, posted, “Yes they can control the weather. It’s ridiculous for anyone to lie and say it can’t be done.”
Gimenez, on CNN’s “This Morning” with Kasie Hunt, added, “There’s no place for misinformation, especially when it’s on purpose, at times like this.” Before joining Congress, Gimenez was a career firefighter-paramedic and managed natural disasters as the former Mayor of Miami-Dade County.
Greene has stood by her comments, posting a meme and link to a Gateway Pundit article she says backs up her claims.
Republican Rep. Chuck Edwards, who represents storm-ravaged western North Carolina and has been on the ground assisting with recovery efforts, felt compelled to send a letter to his community fact checking a number of the outlandish conspiracy theories.
“Amidst all of the support, we have also seen an uptick in untrustworthy sources trying to spark chaos by sharing hoaxes, conspiracy theories, and hearsay about hurricane response efforts across our mountains,” he wrote in the letter. “I’m here to dispel the outrageous rumors that have been circulated online.”
“Nobody can control the weather,” Edwards stated, appearing to refer to his colleague Greene’s post on X.
Republican Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah also attacked former President Donald Trump for spreading disinformation, including about FEMA.
“Former President Trump told us that the people in Springfield are eating dogs and cats, alright? He likewise said that FEMA money, our emergency money, instead of helping the people that are being hit by the hurricane is being used to help illegals,” he said at an event in Utah earlier this week.
“He just makes it up. So he is able to spew enough disinformation that the Chinese must be smiling,” added Romney. “When it comes to a holiday from the truth, he’s taken the longest vacation.”
Trump, who has repeated baseless lies and distortions about the federal response, falsely claimed money earmarked for disaster aid has been given to migrants.
At a campaign rally in Michigan on Thursday, Trump falsely claimed that Vice President Kamala Harris “spent all her FEMA money, billions of dollars, on housing for illegal migrants, many of whom should not be in our country.” He added in an election-related conspiracy theory, saying, “They stole the FEMA money, just like they stole it from a bank, so they could give it to their illegal immigrants that they want to have vote for them this season.”
The Biden administration has been outspoken against Trump for his comments, and Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg told CNN that there is a “massive misinformation problem, and this is something that actively harms the ability of responders to do their job.”
On Wednesday, Biden critcized Trump and Greene in public remarks for spreading misinformation – specifically calling out Trump for leading the “onslaught of lies” and Greene for making “bizarre” claims.
“Saying the money is needed for this crisis is being diverted to migrants. What a ridiculous thing to say. It’s not true,” Biden said.
Republican Sen. Thom Tillis of North Carolina, who has endorsed the former president, broke from Trump, debunking a number of specific claims he has repeatedly fueled.
“We have to stay focused on rescue operations, recovery operations, clearing operations, and we don’t need any of these distractions on the ground,” Tillis said Sunday on CBS’ “Face The Nation.” “It’s at the expense of the hard-working first responders and people that are just trying to recover their lives.”
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican who challenged Trump in this cycle’s Republican presidential primary, also warned residents in the path of a hurricane to ignore online misinformation.
CNN’s Sam Waldenberg and Andy Rose contributed to this report.
North Carolina resident: My father-in-law has refused all FEMA help because he is listening to Trump. He doesn't believe FEMA. He just believes Trump. And I guarantee you he’s not the only one
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North Carolina resident: My father-in-law has refused all FEMA help because he is listening to Trump. He doesn't believe FEMA. He just believes Trump. And I guarantee you he’s not the only one
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If science and Democrats can control the weather, why is it always controlling it to make it worse, rather than better? But Trump followers don't have the common sense and critical thinking skills to ask such questions. The county Ashville, NC is in went for Biden by 60%, so don't think Democrats would feel a need to punish Asheville.
Donald Trump's FEMA Claims Attacked by Miami Herald Newspaper: 'Garbage'
In a fiery op-ed published by the Miami Herald, former President Donald Trump's recent claims about the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and its role in disaster relief were sharply criticized, with the article labeling them as "garbage."
The opinion piece, penned by David Mastio, tore into the former president's assertions about federal emergency management, namely "Trump's allegation that the Biden-Harris administration has 'stolen' funds meant for natural disaster relief to deal with the man-made crisis at the border in which millions of immigrants flooded our country in large part because the Biden-Harris administration loosened Trump-era asylum restrictions."
Trump has inferred that under his leadership, FEMA had operated more efficiently than under President Joe Biden, particularly in handling natural disasters such as hurricanes. Trump has repeatedly accused the Biden administration of misappropriating FEMA funds for purposes unrelated to disaster relief.
Trump has also suggested that agency resources, which are meant to aid communities in the wake of natural disasters like hurricanes, wildfires and floods, are being diverted to other areas, including immigration management at the southern border. The allegations were labeled as "garbage" in the Florida publication, with the writer attributing Trump's assertions to "a combination of age, incompetence and malice."
However, the article asserted that FEMA did spend "hundreds of millions of dollars on housing, feeding and otherwise caring for migrants mostly here on flimsy pleas for asylum. If that money was not spent on immigrants, it would be there to help care for those in need as [Hurricane] Milton crushes Florida."
While the op-ed claimed that Congress gave FEMA $650 million, "if that money had not been spent on immigrants, in a gray area of the law, the Biden-Harris administration would have been able to 'reprogram' it to use on urgent hurricane relief which threatens to deplete FEMA's appropriation for that purpose."
According to the op-ed, when Trump was in charge, his administration "did something worse than the accusations he's made against Democrats: His administration drained money out of FEMA's disaster relief accounts so that it could spend it on caring for immigrants of dubious legality."
The op-ed also addressed Trump's proposals regarding the national debt, comparing them to Vice President Kamala Harris' plans, calling them "twice as bad as Harris, despite Harris' being the most fiscally reckless plan a Democratic presidential candidate has ever proposed in a general election."
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Taylor Swift donates $5M to Feeding America’s hurricane relief efforts thehill
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Taylor Swift donated $5 million to Feeding America’s disaster relief efforts for those affected by Hurricanes Helene and Milton, the nonprofit agency announced Wednesday.
“We’re incredibly grateful to Taylor Swift for her generous $5 million donation to Hurricanes Helene and Milton relief efforts,” Feeding America CEO Claire Babineaux-Fontenot said in a statement.
“This contribution will help communities rebuild and recover, providing essential food, clean water, and supplies to people affected by these devastating storms. Together, we can make a real impact in supporting families as they navigate the challenges ahead.”
“Thank you, Taylor, for standing with us in the movement to end hunger and for helping communities in need,” Babineaux-Fontenot continued.
Taylor Swift
Taylor Swift donated $5 million to Feeding America’s disaster relief efforts for those affected by Hurricanes Helene and Milton, the nonprofit agency announced Wednesday.
“We’re incredibly grateful to Taylor Swift for her generous $5 million donation to Hurricanes Helene and Milton relief efforts,” Feeding America CEO Claire Babineaux-Fontenot said in a statement.
“This contribution will help communities rebuild and recover, providing essential food, clean water, and supplies to people affected by these devastating storms. Together, we can make a real impact in supporting families as they navigate the challenges ahead.”
“Thank you, Taylor, for standing with us in the movement to end hunger and for helping communities in need,” Babineaux-Fontenot continued.
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*Good of her. fify
