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TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Florida's top law enforcement agency is diverting waves of additional resources toward Gov. Ron DeSantis — for both his protection and his priorities — including adding more agents and spending more money as the governor begins frequent national travel for his presidential campaign.

Top officials insist the increase is not entirely to do with the governor's national political ambitions. Instead, they say, they are simply realigning resources after mismanagement by past leaders.

But that's hitting fierce pushback from some of those same past leaders, including from a former department commissioner and Sen. Rick Scott, R-Fla., who previously served as governor for two terms.

It’s exceedingly rare for the former Florida Department of Law Enforcement commissioner and the former governor to speak publicly in a way that contradicts the current agency leadership, underscoring the growing nature of the political clash in Florida.

The finger-pointing comes at a time when the FDLE's resources are being spread thinner because of the increased focus on protecting DeSantis as his presidential campaign begins and its increased focus on undocumented immigration — a top political priority for DeSantis that he regularly uses to criticize President Joe Biden, which is fueling the perception that the agency is becoming politicized.

The efforts include stationing agents in the Florida Keys to watch for mostly Cuban migrants approaching Florida’s shores and sending teams of 40 to the southern border in Texas as part of a broader mission DeSantis said is aimed at preventing illegal border crossings.

FDLE officials told NBC News that changes to the agency were a long time coming, a result of recommendations that Commissioner Mark Glass put together shortly after being tapped for the job by DeSantis and the Florida Cabinet in August 2022. It was not, they insisted, in response to DeSantis' national political ambitions.

“Unfortunately, the team Commissioner Glass put together during his transition found that after nearly a decade FDLE had failed to request necessary additional resources in Protective Operations while the threats nationwide have increased, leaving the section critically underfunded, and in many cases, understaffed,” Gretl Plessinger, the department’s communications director, said.

'Simply not supported by facts'​

The idea that the department’s so-called protective services — the term for operations focused on protecting the governor, the governor's family and any out-of-state visiting dignitaries — was strained for resources during the past decade came as news to Scott, who preceded DeSantis as governor.

Scott, who at times has had tension with DeSantis, told NBC News that during his eight years as governor, he never had issues with the details that protected him.

“I had a great working relationship with FDLE and the agents of the protective detail,” Scott said when asked to respond to FDLE’s statement. “Their protective and investigative work was an important part of Florida hitting record low crime rates over my eight years as governor.”

“The agents of FDLE are dedicated, hard working and committed to their mission to protect all Floridians and I appreciate every employee and agent at FDLE who is focused on making Florida the safest state in the nation,” he added.

Plessinger did not respond to requests for comment on Scott’s statement. She also did not respond to follow-up questions about whether DeSantis' increased out-of-state travel leading up to his May 24 presidential launch put a strain on resources, what the expected current year protective services costs are, or whether changes in policy came after protesters got onstage with DeSantis in April — an exceptionally rare occurrence for any governor. During that event at a fundraising dinner in New Hampshire, two protesters climbed onstage chanting, "Jews against DeSantis."

“Regardless of the number of resources allocated to [protective services], under my tenure, protesters were never allowed to make it onstage with the governor,” said Rick Swearingen, who served as FDLE commissioner from 2014 until his retirement in mid-2022. “Perhaps leadership and management of resources is just as important as the number of resources.”

Speaking publicly for the first time since his retirement, Swearingen said the idea that FDLE failed to request resources for protective operations over the past decade, as FDLE’s current leadership contends, is “simply not supported by facts.”

He pointed to spending cuts the department needed to make on his watch due to the annual state budget process. Even when lawmakers made cuts, he said, the protective services budget was always spared.

“Having dealt with legislative sessions for years, their appetite for spending fluctuated greatly from session to session,” Swearingen said. “In recent years, FDLE was forced to make significant spending cuts including general revenue dollars that impacted investigative services.”

Swearingen announced his retirement just weeks after DeSantis signed legislation allowing the governor and a majority of the Florida Cabinet to appoint a new FDLE commissioner. At the time, it meant that DeSantis and the three-person Florida Cabinet could appoint a new FDLE head without the vote of the then-only Democrat, Agriculture Commissioner Nikki Fried.

 
DeSantis kicks off feud over College Board’s AP psych class politico

The College Board has rejected changing a high school Advanced Placement psychology course’s lessons on gender and sexual orientation, in a direct challenge to Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis’ administration that could reignite conflict between the education giant and the presidential hopeful.

Florida school districts had raised questions about an AP Psychology “learning objective” that covers gender and sexual orientation, the College Board acknowledged Thursday, after the DeSantis administration expanded restrictions and regulations on classroom instruction in April.

But the college admissions nonprofit suggested it would hold its ground after a separate scrap with DeSantis entangled its planned African American Studies course in political controversy this spring. It is unclear whether Florida will now block the AP psychology course from classrooms, the College Board told educators.


“Please know that we will not modify our courses to accommodate restrictions on teaching essential, college-level topics,” the board said Thursday in a letter about the psychology course to Florida’s education department. “Doing so would break the fundamental promise of AP: colleges wouldn’t broadly accept that course for credit and that course wouldn’t prepare students for success in the discipline.”
The latest fracas between Florida and the College Board stems from a recently revamped state rule that expands legislation — panned as the “Don’t Say Gay” law by its critics — to restrict classroom instruction on sexual orientation or sexual identity to all K-12 students, instead of targeting only lessons for children in kindergarten through grade 3.
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“The learning objective within AP Psychology that covers gender and sexual orientation has specifically been raised by some Florida districts relative to these recent regulations,” the board wrote to Florida officials. “That learning objective must remain a required topic, just as it has been in Florida since the launch of AP Psychology more than 30 years ago.”

Cassie Palelis, press secretary for the Florida Department of Education, said Thursday that the College Board is responsible for ensuring that their submitted materials comply with Florida law.

“We applaud the College Board for standing up to the state of Florida and its unconscionable demand to censor an educational curriculum and test that were designed by college faculty and experienced AP teachers who ensure that the course and exam reflect the state of the science and college-level expectations,” American Psychological Association CEO Arthur Evans Jr. said in a statement.

Florida’s objections to the AP African American studies course angered many Black leaders nationwide, leading some to accuse DeSantis of stoking a cultural fight to boost his presidential aspirations. Hundreds of people, including Black lawmakers and clergy, demonstrated against the DeSantis administration in February and civil rights attorney Benjamin Crump threatened a lawsuit over the governor’s rejection of the course.

“We don’t know if the state of Florida will ban this course,” the College Board said of AP Psychology in a message to educators and schools. “To AP teachers in Florida, we are heartbroken by the possibility of Florida students being denied the opportunity to participate in this or any other AP course.”

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I didn't EVER think someone would get even close to being as 'bad' as trump, but...
 
DeSantis kicks off feud over College Board’s AP psych class politico

The College Board has rejected changing a high school Advanced Placement psychology course’s lessons on gender and sexual orientation, in a direct challenge to Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis’ administration that could reignite conflict between the education giant and the presidential hopeful.

Florida school districts had raised questions about an AP Psychology “learning objective” that covers gender and sexual orientation, the College Board acknowledged Thursday, after the DeSantis administration expanded restrictions and regulations on classroom instruction in April.

But the college admissions nonprofit suggested it would hold its ground after a separate scrap with DeSantis entangled its planned African American Studies course in political controversy this spring. It is unclear whether Florida will now block the AP psychology course from classrooms, the College Board told educators.


“Please know that we will not modify our courses to accommodate restrictions on teaching essential, college-level topics,” the board said Thursday in a letter about the psychology course to Florida’s education department. “Doing so would break the fundamental promise of AP: colleges wouldn’t broadly accept that course for credit and that course wouldn’t prepare students for success in the discipline.”
The latest fracas between Florida and the College Board stems from a recently revamped state rule that expands legislation — panned as the “Don’t Say Gay” law by its critics — to restrict classroom instruction on sexual orientation or sexual identity to all K-12 students, instead of targeting only lessons for children in kindergarten through grade 3.
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“The learning objective within AP Psychology that covers gender and sexual orientation has specifically been raised by some Florida districts relative to these recent regulations,” the board wrote to Florida officials. “That learning objective must remain a required topic, just as it has been in Florida since the launch of AP Psychology more than 30 years ago.”

Cassie Palelis, press secretary for the Florida Department of Education, said Thursday that the College Board is responsible for ensuring that their submitted materials comply with Florida law.

“We applaud the College Board for standing up to the state of Florida and its unconscionable demand to censor an educational curriculum and test that were designed by college faculty and experienced AP teachers who ensure that the course and exam reflect the state of the science and college-level expectations,” American Psychological Association CEO Arthur Evans Jr. said in a statement.

Florida’s objections to the AP African American studies course angered many Black leaders nationwide, leading some to accuse DeSantis of stoking a cultural fight to boost his presidential aspirations. Hundreds of people, including Black lawmakers and clergy, demonstrated against the DeSantis administration in February and civil rights attorney Benjamin Crump threatened a lawsuit over the governor’s rejection of the course.

“We don’t know if the state of Florida will ban this course,” the College Board said of AP Psychology in a message to educators and schools. “To AP teachers in Florida, we are heartbroken by the possibility of Florida students being denied the opportunity to participate in this or any other AP course.”

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I didn't EVER think someone would get even close to being as 'bad' as trump, but...
He’s worse in some ways.
 
And he is more competent. Which makes him more dangerous.
Trump always struck me as an aloof, confident (somehow), narcissist, that's probably insane, but never came across as a legitimately nefarious character (from a political perspective).

DeSantis seems more politically motivated, and maybe a bit more shrewd, which is definitely more dangerous if he's nefarious. I just think he and Trump will split the insane right, and we'll have fragmentation in the RNC.
 
Trump always struck me as an aloof, confident (somehow), narcissist, that's probably insane, but never came across as a legitimately nefarious character (from a political perspective).

DeSantis seems more politically motivated, and maybe a bit more shrewd, which is definitely more dangerous if he's nefarious. I just think he and Trump will split the insane right, and we'll have fragmentation in the RNC.
would love to see a cage match...
 

Why is the DeSantis campaign struggling?​

Once regarded as the GOP frontrunner, the Florida governor has fallen as Donald Trump has risen​


On the evening of Nov. 8, 2022, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis presided over a jubilant scene at the Tampa Convention Center, where he celebrated his decisive victory over Democratic gubernatorial nominee Charlie Crist.

“Florida is where woke goes to die,” DeSantis told a cheering crowd, touting his culture war victories and previewing what would become the central message of his presidential campaign.

On an otherwise disappointing night for Republicans, DeSantis’s victory cemented his status as a GOP frontrunner, the young and dynamic candidate who could wrest the party from Trump.

The following week, Trump launched his third straight White House bid despite the fact that many Republicans blamed him for the poor midterm results. The lack of enthusiasm for the 45th president was evident in the polls, which showed DeSantis surging.

“I think DeSantis is a much greater risk to Biden than Trump,” a Democratic donor from Orlando told Yahoo News in December.

Six months later, national polls show Trump ahead of DeSantis by more than 30 points. State polls aren’t much kinder: Not only is DeSantis badly trailing Trump in the crucial early-primary states of Iowa, South Carolina and New Hampshire, but he has former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, former Vice President Mike Pence and Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina gaining support in each of those battlegrounds.

So what happened to the once “inevitable” DeSantis?
 

Florida official who criticized DeSantis reaches settlement with education department​

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — A school superintendent who was criticized by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis for infusing “politically charged statements” and “personal views” into his administration has reached an agreement with the state's Department of Education.

Rocky Hanna, superintendent of Leon County Schools, will receive a reprimand as part of the settlement with the education practices commission. The agreement ends an investigation tied to Hanna requiring masks for the district’s 30,000 students and thousands of employees in 2021, after DeSantis banned the mandates.

“I have done nothing wrong. I absolutely have no ‘history of defying the law’ nor have I ever suggested to anyone to violate the law or not teach the Florida Standards as established by the Board of Education,” Hanna said in a statement.

Hanna said he has "chosen to ignore my personal pride and remain focused on the bigger picture — helping every student in our district prepare for their next step in life.”

In April, Florida Education Commissioner Manny Diaz Jr. notified Hanna there was probable cause to justify sanctions, which included the possibility of a reprimand, suspension or permanent revocation of his teaching license.

Diaz noted that Hanna violated a 2021 DeSantis directive barring districts from mandating that students wear COVID-19 masks. Hanna required students to wear masks after a Leon third grader died of the disease early that school year. The fight went on for several months until Leon and several other districts had their legal challenge rejected by the courts.

Hanna is not required to have a teaching certificate as an elected superintendent. But the settlement agreement includes stipulations — two years' probation, a $1,000 fine to be paid during the probationary period and a requirement that Hanna take college level classes in leadership and education ethics — if he becomes employed in a position that requires such certification, the Tallahassee Democrat reported.

Hanna acknowledges that even with the settlement, DeSantis, who has launched a campaign for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, could still try to oust him from office. He has removed other elected officials in Florida, including a prosecutor in the Tampa Bay area who disagreed with the governor's positions limiting abortion and medical care for transgender teens and indicated he might not enforce new laws in those areas.

Hanna criticized the governor multiple times on social media and in school board meetings since DeSantis banned mask mandates during the pandemic. He said that has made him a target for political retaliation.

“It’s a sad day for democracy in Florida, and the First Amendment right to freedom of speech, when a state agency with unlimited power and resources, can target a local elected official in such a biased fashion,” Hanna said in an April statement.

In 2020, Hanna, a Democrat running as an independent, was elected to a second four-year term with 60% of the vote. He plans to run for reelection next year.

The settlement was reached after Hanna sent Diaz a letter asking what he proposed to conclude the investigation, the newspaper reported. Hanna said Diaz proposed the reprimand and probationary measures, and the superintendent agreed.
 

Ex-GOP Governor Gives A Vicious Review Of DeSantis: He's 'Really Underperformed'​


Former Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) unleashed a sea of criticism of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis for having “one of the worst” presidential campaigns he’s seen.
Hogan, who decided against a 2024 presidential bid in March, told CBS News’ Major Garrett on Wednesday that he thinks DeSantis has “really underperformed.” The Florida governor is trailing former President Donald Trump by double-digits for the GOP nomination in three recentnationalpolls, Politico noted.
“He was the one getting all the attention. He was wall-to-wall coverage on Fox News, he was the only one other than Trump that was really getting a lot of attention. He raised a ton of money, he was a fairly successful governor in a big state who got reelected and then started making all kinds of mistakes,” Hogan said.
“I think the campaign is one of the worst I’ve seen so far and he’s dropped like a rock,” he continued.
Hogan said it’s “getting close to being over” for DeSantis’ campaign. He added that he thinks the Florida governor is headed in the wrong direction and went on to reveal what he thinks is the “central mistake” of his 2024 bid.
“The culture wars, the dumb comments about Ukraine. He’s got some strengths but he’s also got some weaknesses,” Hogan said. “I mean, he just doesn’t connect with people, he’s not a good campaigner, he’s not a good debater. He’s a smart guy, went to Yale and Harvard.”
“Doesn’t lead with that,” Garrett chimed in.
“Yeah, he doesn’t lead with that,” Hogan replied. “He says he went to school in the northeast somewhere but yeah, I think, you know, everybody was thinking he was the guy to beat and now I don’t think too many people think that.”
 

Florida Gov. DeSantis picks up backing from 15 South Carolina lawmakers as he makes a campaign swing​


COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is rolling out endorsements from 15 South Carolina lawmakers, hoping their support for his Republican presidential campaign will help him make his case to voters in the first-in-the-South primary state.

The endorsements, shared first on Thursday with The Associated Press ahead of DeSantis' town hall in North Augusta, come from 11 state House members and four state senators from across the state, with a heavy concentration in South Carolina's conservative Upstate. It's a show of force for DeSantis in a state that current Republican front-runner Donald Trump won handily in the 2016 primary and where he has maintained popularity.

The list includes Sen. Josh Kimbrell, a Spartanburg Republican who has been bullish on DeSantis' candidacy since before he officially entered the race. On Thursday, he called the governor “the only candidate in this race who can defeat” President Joe Biden.

Many of the new endorsements are from lawmakers who have introduced DeSantis during previous appearances in the early voting state. One of them, North Charleston Rep. Chris Murphy, praised DeSantis, a former Navy judge advocate general, earlier this month at a Bluffton campaign event as “the only candidate that has worn our nation's uniform." There's also Rep. Micah Caskey, a Marine veteran who hails from Lexington County, another strongly conservative area.

It's hard to quantify how much local lawmaker endorsements sway voters' perceptions of presidential candidates, although many in the crowded primary field are intently courting them. Last week, Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina heralded endorsements from more than 140 current and former elected officials in his home state, including more than two dozen state lawmakers.

At his South Carolina kickoff event in January, Trump announced his leadership team in the state, including longtime backer Gov. Henry McMaster, Sen. Lindsey Graham and several members of Congress. Trump is returning to South Carolina on July 1 for his first campaign rally since his indictment on federal charges for mishandling classified documents and will be back in August for a South Carolina GOP fundraiser.

Rob Godfrey, a longtime adviser to former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, one of the other candidates, said endorsements from elected officials have “short-term” value in terms of associated media coverage. He said they aren't a substitute for spending quality time with voters in early states like South Carolina.

“You can reasonably assume the recipient is seen by colleagues as having a collaborative approach to policymaking,” Godfrey said. "But the days of direct political capital transfers — from elected officials to candidates — seem to have passed, and the number of early primary state voters you meet face to face and ask for votes matters the most.”

According to his campaign, DeSantis also has backing from more than three-dozen state lawmakers in Iowa and 50 in New Hampshire, as well as dozens more in Michigan, Oklahoma and his home state of Florida.

Linda Lewis, a retiree who went to check out DeSantis' appearance in Bluffton earlier this month, said that she had previously supported Trump but was curious to hear more from the Florida governor.

“I still have a lot of appreciation for some of the things that he did,” Lewis said of Trump. “I think that some of his rhetoric is over the top ... and I think we need somebody else in there, probably, in order to win the national election.”
 
DeSantis claims if elected he would get rid of Dept of Education, Dept of Commerce, Dept of Energy and the IRS

I wonder if he understands the Dept of Energy he wants to remove all together is in charge of all of US Nuclear Weapons programs and oversea all Nuclear reactor production for the US Navy

Is DeSantis trying to get rid of US Nukes ?

 
DeSantis claims if elected he would get rid of Dept of Education, Dept of Commerce, Dept of Energy and the IRS

I wonder if he understands the Dept of Energy he wants to remove all together is in charge of all of US Nuclear Weapons programs and oversea all Nuclear reactor production for the US Navy

Is DeSantis trying to get rid of US Nukes ?

FFS. Do ya think just maybe we could move the supervision of nukes to some other department?
 
Oklahoma has a similar statute for non-resident foreign nationals/non-U.S. citizens.

If the foreign national is a resident, they can buy and own real property in Oklahoma. If they cease to be a resident here, they have five years to sell it or the State can attempt to take ownership.
 
Florida bill allowing radioactive roads made of potentially cancer-causing mining waste signed by DeSantis

Love the get out of jail journalistic term -“potentially”. I may have missed it in the article but, did it say what level of radon gas would be emitted by this asphalt? And following that up is it higher or lower than what is naturally emitted from the earth in respect to Florida?
 
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Don’t know about mining waste, but fly ash from coal powered power plants is slightly more radioactive than background. It’s used during the summer as a retardant. It’s fine for driveway, patios, and sidewalks. Don’t think I’d use it in a house slab. Use sugar as the retardant instead.
 
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