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BERNIE SANDERS: Do vaccines cause autism?

BHATTACHARYA: I do not believe that the measles vaccine causes autism

SANDERS: Nah. Uh uh. I didn't ask measles. Do vaccines cause autism?

BHATTACHARYA: I have not seen a study that suggests any single vaccine causes autism

 
BERNIE SANDERS: Do vaccines cause autism?

BHATTACHARYA: I do not believe that the measles vaccine causes autism

SANDERS: Nah. Uh uh. I didn't ask measles. Do vaccines cause autism?

BHATTACHARYA: I have not seen a study that suggests any single vaccine causes autism


Are you just posting this for info?

I can't see a single thing wrong with what he said?
 
Are you just posting this for info?

I can't see a single thing wrong with what he said?
He could have said it the other way, studies have ruled out the possibility that vaccines cause autism. They way he said it the first time, “measles” left open the possibility that other vaccines cause autism, and the second time that there still could be evidence that they do. Those are weasel answers.
 
He could have said it the other way, studies have ruled out the possibility that vaccines cause autism. They way he said it the first time, “measles” left open the possibility that other vaccines cause autism, and the second time that there still could be evidence that they do. Those are weasel answers.
What I took from his last answer and I wish Bernie would have followed up is that the Dr said (paraphrasing in quotes) “He has not seen a study where a SINGLE vaccine causes autism.” I took this as homage to the current practice of HHS dancing around the vaccine causation debate and their flirtation w autism rates possibly being linked to multiple bring administered at one time.

Maybe it’s just my distrust of current HHS and White House.
 
What I took from his last answer and I wish Bernie would have followed up is that the Dr said (paraphrasing in quotes) “He has not seen a study where a SINGLE vaccine causes autism.” I took this as homage to the current practice of HHS dancing around the vaccine causation debate and their flirtation w autism rates possibly being linked to multiple bring administered at one time.

Maybe it’s just my distrust of current HHS and White House.
Good catch. Yes, it was a weasely answer.
 
Good catch. Yes, it was a weasely answer.
It’s just all so stupid. I don’t agree w the “Whole Foods Moms” position on vaccines but it for the most part seems to align w how they treat all aspects of their life ranging from vaccines to micro plastics to processed foods and so on.

The recent Magastani position on vaccines is being led by grifters and influencers who get paid to post.

Had dinner w a friend who is Magastani adjacent and bc of pandemic refuses to now get vaccinated. He’s had the flu now 3 straight winters.

Kicker is he just lost 30 pounds on a non FDA approved Chinese GLP1 type black market medicine and tried to get me to take it. I asked him “Are you nuckin futs? You won’t take a flu shot but you’ll take a chemical from China that comes in a package you can’t even read that was sold to you by a pastor from your church”.

True story. Won’t take vaccines but will take this stuff bc a pastor recommended it.
 
He could have said it the other way, studies have ruled out the possibility that vaccines cause autism. They way he said it the first time, “measles” left open the possibility that other vaccines cause autism, and the second time that there still could be evidence that they do. Those are weasel answers.

Studies have not ruled out the possibility that vaccines cause autism. Absolutes just are not generally science. Science speaks in probabilities, not absolutes almost always.

And the sentence before the one quoted was Sanders saying "I appreciate your thoughts on measles" so a response to the measles vaccine is not inappropriate like the way Bondi and Hegseth just answer with random nonsense.

I think "you are with us or against us" talk is dangerous. I don't agree with everything Bhattacharya says but he is not an antiscience loon. He does speak about getting back the public trust on things like vaccines. He is as anti-RFK as that position is going to get right now. If he goes away, it would be worse. If he spoke anywhere like you did, he would be fired.
 
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