[DISCLAiMER: I AM NOT DEFENDING TRUMP]
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All I can say is, we'll see. I've been wrong before, and I'll certainly be wrong again. i was most definitely wrong in my analysis of what was going to happen in the election on Tuesday. What I'm right about is that the lawfare failed.
Or maybe, hang with me here, the incumbent leaders of most countries were blamed for the global inflation. Also, just because the votes flipped in a binary choice, doesn’t mean the nation moved to the right. We don’t get a spectrum of perceived legitimate choices at the top of the ballot. It’s black and white.Here are some hard truths for people like Jess, and a lot of people on this forum.
"Dear Democrats,
There’s a hard conversation coming, friends. I’m here for it…so I will start it.
49 of 50 states shifted right.
And Utah remained neutral-ish by a fractional percentage. Look at all those states, with all those people in them…living different lives in different ways and places. Maybe similarities amongst them but not sameness on any or every level.
The media is going to drag this out to try to soften the blow but Trump will likely get 312 in the electoral college.
76 million people.
It’s not only cynical but arrogant to assume the only reason for this is the ignorance or moral failings of those voters.
Are you not even going to consider that policies, reality, or predictability could have been some factors? THE FACTORS?
Are you not going to leave room for the possibility that all those people see and understand their reality rightly, are living it, learning from it…and can logically predict what happens if the trajectory remains the same? And they strongly object?
To be clear—there has been some pretty abhorrent **** normalized, AND I STRONGLY OBJECT.
Are you not going to entertain that votes were cast not out of rejection or hate of others but love and concern for those closest to them?
How come we can accept that a trans woman likely has the intelligence and agency to vote for their own self-interests but a conservative wife and mother is obviously voting out of fear, hate, or self-loathing?
Y’all don’t think mama bear is voting for her self-interests and those of her cubs? And she values and wants different things for them?
This is narcissism. It’s not all about you.
I know this will be noxious to assert but what if mama bears ARE voting for the common good but they define good differently?
Out of 76 million I would surmise that relatively small is the number of votes cast out of petty dislike or spite for others. I feel confident of this because the legal voting age is 18…not 11.
Huuuuge is the number cast because people are concerned for THEIR OWN safety, finances, children, communities, etc.
At what point will you entertain that it could be your own perspective that is askew? Or your own information that is errant?
What will happen to this “possible grievance” based grief when the grievances don’t materialize?
Will there be any dawning clarity when the “threat to democracy, neo-Nazi, fascists…” are just people trying to live and a man trying to lead?
You could even now be justified in questioning your sources. They lied.
And you believed them.
The candidate was always poor.
And they knew it.
The campaign was always hype.
And they knew it.
THE POLICIES HAVE BEEN HORRIBLE.
And they knew it.
The message was off.
And they knew it.
What was the alternative for people who could see this?? Not vote?
The landslide was the likely outcome.
AND THEY KNEW IT.
But they didn’t say that, did they?
Y’all, I knew it. And I know very little. But I knew enough to have a party with hor d’oevres. And I’m not doing charcuterie on faith. Not in this economy!! The data was there. If you didn’t see it, expand your circle of trust.
You may not be able to stop liars from lying but you can stop believing them.
I know this because our side has liars too and I have learned to filter, fact-check, or disregard them.
As long as you can only see this referendum as “what is wrong with them” and never consider “what did we get wrong?” you will remain wounded, shocked, and shattered.
There’s a hard conversation to be had about the media, the motivations, and liberalism run amok. Whether we wanted to or not, we’ve been subjected to this socio-economic experiment of the left and complicit right.
We didn’t like it.
And so we voted to end it.
It was not to harm you personally though it may help you corporately. I’ll understand if I don’t receive a “thank you” in the mail.
Sincerely,
Not sorry"
Now that he has been elected, "we'll see" isn't going to be the same as it would have been.
As should the entire nation.
Here are some hard truths for people like Jess, and a lot of people on this forum.
"Dear Democrats,
There’s a hard conversation coming, friends. I’m here for it…so I will start it.
49 of 50 states shifted right.
And Utah remained neutral-ish by a fractional percentage. Look at all those states, with all those people in them…living different lives in different ways and places. Maybe similarities amongst them but not sameness on any or every level.
The media is going to drag this out to try to soften the blow but Trump will likely get 312 in the electoral college.
76 million people.
It’s not only cynical but arrogant to assume the only reason for this is the ignorance or moral failings of those voters.
Are you not even going to consider that policies, reality, or predictability could have been some factors? THE FACTORS?
Are you not going to leave room for the possibility that all those people see and understand their reality rightly, are living it, learning from it…and can logically predict what happens if the trajectory remains the same? And they strongly object?
To be clear—there has been some pretty abhorrent **** normalized, AND I STRONGLY OBJECT.
Are you not going to entertain that votes were cast not out of rejection or hate of others but love and concern for those closest to them?
How come we can accept that a trans woman likely has the intelligence and agency to vote for their own self-interests but a conservative wife and mother is obviously voting out of fear, hate, or self-loathing?
Y’all don’t think mama bear is voting for her self-interests and those of her cubs? And she values and wants different things for them?
This is narcissism. It’s not all about you.
I know this will be noxious to assert but what if mama bears ARE voting for the common good but they define good differently?
Out of 76 million I would surmise that relatively small is the number of votes cast out of petty dislike or spite for others. I feel confident of this because the legal voting age is 18…not 11.
Huuuuge is the number cast because people are concerned for THEIR OWN safety, finances, children, communities, etc.
At what point will you entertain that it could be your own perspective that is askew? Or your own information that is errant?
What will happen to this “possible grievance” based grief when the grievances don’t materialize?
Will there be any dawning clarity when the “threat to democracy, neo-Nazi, fascists…” are just people trying to live and a man trying to lead?
You could even now be justified in questioning your sources. They lied.
And you believed them.
The candidate was always poor.
And they knew it.
The campaign was always hype.
And they knew it.
THE POLICIES HAVE BEEN HORRIBLE.
And they knew it.
The message was off.
And they knew it.
What was the alternative for people who could see this?? Not vote?
The landslide was the likely outcome.
AND THEY KNEW IT.
But they didn’t say that, did they?
Y’all, I knew it. And I know very little. But I knew enough to have a party with hor d’oevres. And I’m not doing charcuterie on faith. Not in this economy!! The data was there. If you didn’t see it, expand your circle of trust.
You may not be able to stop liars from lying but you can stop believing them.
I know this because our side has liars too and I have learned to filter, fact-check, or disregard them.
As long as you can only see this referendum as “what is wrong with them” and never consider “what did we get wrong?” you will remain wounded, shocked, and shattered.
There’s a hard conversation to be had about the media, the motivations, and liberalism run amok. Whether we wanted to or not, we’ve been subjected to this socio-economic experiment of the left and complicit right.
We didn’t like it.
And so we voted to end it.
It was not to harm you personally though it may help you corporately. I’ll understand if I don’t receive a “thank you” in the mail.
Sincerely,
Not sorry"
Really? Can you show me where I posted about "owning the libs"?
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And vice versa. No?
Really? Can you show me where I posted about "owning the libs"?
I'm confident the libs owned themselves right out of office.
The source. Even though I don't understand why the source matters. I've seen democrats post essentially the same thing.
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Perfect example of Bidenomics.
The law fare isn’t just this case. The fraud case is the worst example an if you watch the appellate court footage it appears the judges agree. Dem AGs used the same precedent to try to keep RFK on ballots as they attempted to use to keep him off ballots…..you know every vote democracy and whatnot. They went too far with it. The motives became transparent it backfired. We have the evidence that is the case now. The majority of Americans voted for a felon because a huge number of people see it just as Rx just said. You don’t. I fall kind of in the middle of yall. But they took it to far. They ran a horrible campaign and dozens of legal actions against opposing candidates created fatigue.
The point is if a "democrat" prosecutor can make a fake case against a candidate for president and get it through a grand jury and get 34 convictions and several other cases would have been possibly getting the same outcome if he wasn't re-elected then we have a system problem not a "democrats took it too far" problem. If the motives are transparent to the average citizen, then the system should have tossed it. But that isn't what happened. We either have citizens believing a disinformation campaign or a system that is failing us.
Basically the cases that could have been incredibly damaging to Trump (Jan 6, pressuring Georgia AG, false slate of electors to overturn swing states, taking and hiding and doing who knows what else w/ classified docs) were delayed and the cases that were inconsequential went through. The net result was it appearing Democrats were using the justice system to target their political opponent.
Sounds like you honestly believe that any other citizen would have been able to choose partisan judges, and delay proceedings so long that the public can’t see the evidence. I guess you believe the courts and the Supreme Court has been totally above board and haven’t treated him any different than the common man. They effectively made him a king far above the law. This stunt the partisan judges made gives him more power to enjoy doing whatever he wants as long as THEY say it’s a duty of his job.
crazy IMO
The fraud case was targeted and you are probably guilty of what they fined him 500M for on a smaller scale. Anyone that has taken an asset based loan and listed the collateral as higher than taxable value has done that. It took minutes for someone to post Jon Stewart’s tax data from New York after he went off on the verdict….comes to find out he is doing the same thing according to tax roll data. Lock him up right? Candidates for prosecutorial positions ran on the fact they would go after Trump, not clean things up, go after Trump before a single doc was filed. It was targeted. RFK was targeted. Keep your head in the sand if you want most folks didn’t. I know Harris voters that 100% agree they were after opponents and don’t care because to them the ends justify the means. It’s more than just his voters that feel the same. They took it too far. Then they come out and say he will target political rivals….and he will….and that’s wrong….but your message has no power when you are in the news all the time for the same thing.
