US continues to go backward...

Y’all should’ve started with the squirrel bait first then. Instead, the focus was on me using the word Somali before the word fraud.

I’m certain plenty of people think I’m racist now because of that. A prerequisite was even laid out. Apparently, before I can comment on left fraud I must call it out the right, which I had and will continue to do so.

Think I can do it now actually. The Pentagon failed the 8th audit in row. That’s a lot of time under a Trump administration. $13.4bil in weapons have disappeared in Israel. Wonder what terrorist group(s) have those to use against us or other groups of incident people for the next “conflict” we’ll pour more billions into?

There. I did it again.
You do understand using the word Somali before the word fraud IS the squirrel bait I’ve been talking about from the start, right?

Fraud is fraud. Crime is crime. The nationality of the crime doers is completely irrelevant to the seriousness or concern and attention that should be given to stopping and prosecuting it.
 
You do understand using the word Somali before the word fraud IS the squirrel bait I’ve been talking about from the start, right?

Fraud is fraud. Crime is crime. The nationality of the crime doers is completely irrelevant to the seriousness or concern and attention that should be given to stopping and prosecuting it.
Well I mean Hitler did the same thing with the Jewish people and began calling out Jewish Crime
 
Funny.. I hardly seen any liberal wrongs called out here. Maybe I miss all that as I only pop in and out of here. Anyway.. (checks thread title) F the politicians, right and left. They’re sending this country backward.

Happy New Years!

Being that the democrats are in charge of absolutely nothing that is significant for Oklahoma (R supermajority in the state, Federal R holding all three branches of government) it is a little hard to find things to complain about since dems do nothing (which has been complained about).

But, there are examples. Sorry about the link editing, don't know how to fix that.

Dems do nothing and suck:

Newsome:

Henry Cuellar fraud was brought up here:
Well, until Trump switched the dem fraud to a republican complaint by inexplicably pardoning Cuellar despite clear guilt:

When, despite being popular, Mike Boyton was incompetently running the OSU basketball problem, not too many complaints about Keaton Page occurred even though he was there. The dems are there, they just don't run anything worth complaining about.
 
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Now, what would be really cool to see is a post, not a comment in a post about something else, but an actual full post by a conservative/Trump supporter ridiculing any of the absurd things Trump has done. THAT is what I can't recall ever seeing.

I’ve done it
 
No problem! Curious, were you around on the old Orange Power board? Your avatar reminds me of a poster that was on there named Cimarron. He was a good dude.

I was and I do recall cimarron. I picked up on a trend during the OP days. A lot of posters used characters from western movies for their avatar. So, I went with Sam Elliot as the cowboy from the Big Lebowski. Haven’t changed it in over a decade.

Has Cim not made it here?
 
You think those chances are incredibly slim with little to no evidence that you can point out. And about that in general….why does the political persuasion….or the nationality….of alleged criminal conduct matter to you in this context? Fraud is fraud. Crime is crime.

And you’ve completely mischaracterized the first responses you got from others as well. I certainly haven’t claimed it shouldn’t be talked about. I’ve consistently said if the fraud occurred it should be investigated and prosecuted. And I have consistently said that labeling it as Somali fraud is squirrel bait because the nationality of the alleged fraudsters doesn’t make it any worse or better than any other fraud.

You’re the one that broke out this “race card” and “do you think I’m racist” nonsense….and are still telling others what “should’ve been the first response” made by others.

You say and discuss whatever you want….however you want.

I’m gonna do the same.

I think it was said without saying it.

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Just a reminder that although many Somalis were/are involved the person that was the ringleader is a white woman. Feeding our Future was raided by the FBI in 2022, so this isn't something that was being ignored prior to the current administration. Heck when it was first brought up here I mentioned Feeding our Future because it was something I had heard of but hadn't thought about in a while.

Also if this is something so important to you now you should ask yourself why you weren't so concerned 2-3 years ago when the story first broke. Are there any other big stories going on right now that the administration doesn't want you to talk about?
 
Being that the democrats are in charge of absolutely nothing that is significant for Oklahoma (R supermajority in the state, Federal R holding all three branches of government) it is a little hard to find things to complain about since dems do nothing (which has been complained about).

But, there are examples. Sorry about the link editing, don't know how to fix that.

Dems do nothing and suck:

Newsome:

Henry Cuellar fraud was brought up here:
Well, until Trump switched the dem fraud to a republican complaint by inexplicably pardoning Cuellar despite clear guilt:

When, despite being popular, Mike Boyton was incompetently running the OSU basketball problem, not too many complaints about Keaton Page occurred even though he was there. The dems are there, they just don't run anything worth complaining about.
Hell, I called out the initial prosecution of Hunter Biden being soft and Joe Biden pardoning Hunter, other family members and some Congressional supporters preemptively along with several other things.

As you said, though…..the Dems aren’t doing ANYTHING right now….mostly because they have no power.
 
Hell, I called out the initial prosecution of Hunter Biden being soft and Joe Biden pardoning Hunter, other family members and some Congressional supporters preemptively along with several other things.

As you said, though…..the Dems aren’t doing ANYTHING right now….mostly because they have no power.

The Biden pardons had terrible optics at the time. In hindsight, considering that you have the president appointing prosecutors who aren't qualified for the DOJ and basically telling them to find something on people he perceives as political enemies it makes more sense.

Under normal circumstances its a terrible decision. Right now its more uncomfortable but possibly necessary.
 
I assume Tuberville and other religious right figures didn't mind it at all when Trump did not place his hand on the bible as he took the oath of office. This even though his wife was standing next to him holding not one but two bibles. It was just another warning sign what Trump would be like as president with this one too late to heed. I'd far sooner have a president who didn't place his hand on the bible because he or she was an atheist and with a decent, well-mannered background free of felonies and much easier to admire.
 
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I assume Tuberville and other religious right figures didn't mind it at all when Trump did not place his hand on the bible as he took the oath of office. This even though his wife was standing next to him holding not one but two bibles.
Tuberville has proven over and over how much of a bigoted tool he is…I’m sure he would make a “good” president someday…
 
Somewhere along the way, taxes stopped being about roads, courts, and national defense.
They now exist to sustain worthless politicians and to reward the friends, donors, contractors, and constituencies that keep them in power.
Money is taken from everyone, filtered through Washington, and handed back to the favored few, all while being sold as compassion.
That isn’t a revenue system. It’s a patronage system.
A system built to serve itself has forfeited the right to exist.
 
I don’t take too much exception to your post chiefly the compassion part.

One party takes money and redistributes primarily throughout the system and calls it compassion. There is no doubt waste and fraud and some people take advantage. That same party does that in an attempt to gain favor. Get the votes. And stay in power.

The other party vilifies this approach and instead uses the same money if not more and redistributes to the top of the system and calls it trickle down. There is no doubt waste and fraud and some people take advantage. That same party does that in an attempt to gain leverage. Get the votes and stay in power.

I’m of the belief that taxes should exist for much more than roads, courts and national defense. I’m going to miss some, but education, criminal investigation/protection, health, food security, occupational safety, technological research and development, economic security (central banking/regulations) societal class protection (race, religion and disabilities for example) and interstate infrastructure (railways, shipping, air travel) are just a few areas.
Nothing wrong with compassion, until it is propped up to use as a grift.
Also, please note, my post had absolutely nothing to do with a specific "party".
 
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