US continues to go backward...

[Ryno]

Just to be clear in 2020 social media companies suppressed information on hunter biden?

Yes, and all the information that was on that laptop. The emails and messages talking about the "Big Guy" (the VEEP) and how he influenced deals done with foreign companies and governments. This is the ridiculous hypocrisy from the left.

But Trump... right? The Biden's and Obama's didn't do anything. Ever. They might as well be cemented on Mount Rushmore.

 

[PF5]

They might as well be cemented on Mount Rushmore

Obama, possibly...biden, nah...

 

[cowboyinexile]

THE F'ING WHITE HOUSE, CONTROLLED BY OBAMA AND BIDEN, PRESSURED THE LARGEST SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS TO CENSOR INFORMATION ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN TO HELP BIDEN GET ELECTED.

What a joke. You act like you're all high and mighty... better than everyone and you know best.... but in reality, you're full of ****.

Uh, who was president when Biden was running?

Settle down pizzagate steve

 

[Verbal]

Yes, and all the information that was on that laptop. The emails and messages talking about the "Big Guy" (the VEEP) and how he influenced deals done with foreign companies and governments. This is the ridiculous hypocrisy from the left.

But Trump... right? The Biden's and Obama's didn't do anything. Ever. They might as well be cemented on Mount Rushmore.

Then explain how this is possible

THE F'ING WHITE HOUSE, CONTROLLED BY OBAMA AND BIDEN, PRESSURED THE LARGEST SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS TO CENSOR INFORMATION ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN TO HELP BIDEN GET ELECTED.

What a joke. You act like you're all high and mighty... better than everyone and you know best.... but in reality, you're full of ****.

Trump was president in 2020.

 

[cowboyinexile]

Oh, so you didn’t repeatedly claim on this board he was a Republican? By may count you desperately made this claim at least 5 times (here is just one example).

Then after that you attempting to downplay the assassination by repeatedly posting stats about right-wing violence is worse than left-wing.

You are a cultist. Everytime for a few embedded partisans on here it is always J(D)different.

We don't know what the guys ideology is. At first because of the target the assumption was he was a lefty. Then when it came out that he was from rural Utah and was someone who chased internet stuff down the rabbit hole, we all assumed he was a nutty right winger ( heh-nutty conspiracy theorists right wing guy with a lot of guns-I can think of a couple just like that). Then it was reported that *maybe* his "roomate" was someone trans he was in a relationship with. So people assumed he was a lefty again, because no one in the history of the world has ever been gay and a republican. From what Ive read he was pretty apolitical for the most part and was into gaming and internet trolling (right wing again!) but not politics. And apparently he texts like a 60 year old man pulling love poetry off chatgpt. Allegedly on that last one.

My thought-he knew he was bi (online friends have said he was) but he grew up in rural Utah with a Mormon family and a dad that was a sheriff so about as conservative as it gets. Probably had to hide who he was because he would have gotten beaten to a pulp otherwise. Finally had a chance to come out a little, but not all the way (because he referred to his partner as his roommate) and maybe being part of the gay community wherever he was made him realize how messed up his childhood and everyone he knew around him were. And here is this ahole telling everyone he wanted gay people lynched and how trans were a bunch of psychos and he decided to do something about it. Or maybe he didn't-we don't really know yet do we.

Could he be a patsy to a larger plot? Im not a conspiracy theory guy but I wouldn't put anything against the current administration.

 

[milehighpoke]

This, my friends, is the govt wiping their butts with the constitution. This is a violation of the very FIRST amendment. Not when people stopped buying Kid Rock cds because his music sucks.

Trump's FCC Chair: We're constraining the power of Disney, of Comcast. I think the American public will be much better off. I don't think this is the last shoe to drop. This is a massive shift that's taking place in the media ecosystem. I think the consequences are going to continue to flow.​

 

[JTOSU]

We don't know what the guys ideology is.

Since he liked your post maybe Grateful has realized is mistake. I've never taken a position on his ideology one way or the other so your point is probably best directed at him and his multiple prior posts trying to convince himself and those in the echo chamber that the killer was right-wing.

we all assumed he was a nutty right winger ( heh-nutty conspiracy theorists right wing guy with a lot of guns-I can think of a couple just like that).

I assume the "we" in your comment is those on this board that tend to lean heavily to the left. Because certainly most Americans did not assume that. You had the MAGA and far-right convinced from the beginning he was a lefty. And those rational and smart enough not consumed by their partisan views waited until more evidence came out.

 

[Polds4OSU]

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[steross]

You went out of your way in your reply to OSUWhit to try to defend what the Biden Administration did. What they did was wrong. There is no and, ifs, or buts about it.

What the Trump administration did with Kimmel is also very wrong. I am not defending whataboutism. Both administrations abused their power (IMO). You just happen to excuse one …I don’t. I don’t want the government involved in speech at all.

Neither is technically a 1st Amendment violation because the companies did the censuring not the government, but there is zero doubt that pressure for the government in both cases pushed them to make those decisions…and that is a bad slope.

Please explain how my response to him was "out of the way" but his response to me was not? Call it defending if you would like, my primary point is they are not even close to the same thing.

 

[steross]

Nope. You're BS doesn't fly on this one doc.

The post I was replying to was how the internet and media were suddenly bending a knee to those in power (GOP). I'm pointing out, wrong... it's been happening. When you tell the worlds largest social media outlets to suppress news and information, that's EXACTLY what they're doing. Bending a knee (Obama/Biden administration). Using it via the FCC or FBI, no difference in my eyes. The FBI going to all the social media companies to 'warn them of fake news by Russia' in regards to Hunter Biden, telling them to not share it.... what the F*CK is the difference exactly?

You're so yellow dog it's comical. At least I can say Trump is doing the same thing right now. I don't agree with it, but BIDEN/OBAMA did it as well in their own way. Thing is, they didn't have to go to the major media companies to tell their late night shows to do this or that. They're ALL far left and spent half their time attacking Trump and the GOP. They had/have allies in late night talk/early morning talk. ABC, CBS, NBC, etc. don't have a group of conservative women or hosts airing shows. The View, Jimmy Kimmel, etc. are all anti-GOP/Trump and they made it a point to talk about it daily.

Ok, it is the same thing. Please provide me the equivalent people to the names Kimmel and Colbert. If it is the same thing, that should be very easy to do.

 

[Polds4OSU]

Ok, it is the same thing. Please provide me the equivalent people to the names Kimmel and Colbert. If it is the same thing, that should be very easy to do.

Doh!!

Before it comes up

 

[steross]

THE F'ING WHITE HOUSE, CONTROLLED BY OBAMA AND BIDEN, PRESSURED THE LARGEST SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS TO CENSOR INFORMATION ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN TO HELP BIDEN GET ELECTED.

What a joke. You act like you're all high and mighty... better than everyone and you know best.... but in reality, you're full of ****.

You should start a thread about government pressuring that results in nobody being fired.

And, besides, is your point that it is OK for Trump to do it since something vaguely similar was done before? At what point will people stop deflecting the self-serving actions of the politician they like and start caring about the frickin country?

 

[JTOSU]

Please explain how my response to him was "out of the way" but his response to me was not? Call it defending if you would like, my primary point is they are not even close to the same thing.

You called me out in your post with a claim about me that was obviously incorrect. So I replied to you.

I am confident left-wing partisans feel the Kimmel situation is worse because Kimmel is a famous person and the Trump administration publicly showed their bias. I am also confident right-wing partisans feel it was worse when the Biden administration pressured Facebook and Youtube to remove user content because it affected many more content creators.

Personally I am neither interested in comparing the level of "bad acting" by the Biden and Trump administration in pressuring companies to stifle speech nor do I think the level in this case is important. They were both bad.

 

[JTOSU]

Please provide me the equivalent people to the names Kimmel and Colbert.

I apologize if I am incorrectly comprehending the meaning to your post to @Ryno. I read your post and my mouth dropped, but maybe I am misinterpreting your meaning.

Can you clarify? The way I am interpreting your post is that you believe Kimmel and Colbert speech is more important than the content created by individuals on social media and that is why you don't think what Biden and Trump did are equal.

Again, maybe that is not what you meant.

 

[steross]

You called me out in your post with a claim about me that was obviously incorrect. So I replied to you.

I am confident left-wing partisans feel the Kimmel situation is worse because Kimmel is a famous person and the Trump administration publicly showed their bias. I am also confident right-wing partisans feel it was worse when the Biden administration pressured Facebook and Youtube to remove user content because it affected many more content creators.

Personally I am neither interested in comparing the level of "bad acting" by the Biden and Trump administration in pressuring companies to stifle speech nor do I think the level in this case is important. They were both bad.

And I admitted I made a mistake about your post. How many times will that need to be pointed out before you are satisfied?

The thing is the Biden presidency is over. Worse/not worse it doesn’t even need to be brought up unless trying to show that the current behavior is just business as usual and unworthy of criticism. That is my issue. Where is the benefit?

 

[jobob85]

Man, all this back and forth!! It’s game day and we should be planning our tailgate strategy.

 

[steross]

I apologize if I am incorrectly comprehending the meaning to your post to @Ryno. I read your post and my mouth dropped, but maybe I am misinterpreting your meaning.

Can you clarify? The way I am interpreting your post is that you believe Kimmel and Colbert speech is more important than the content created by individuals on social media and that is why you don't think what Biden and Trump did are equal.

Again, maybe that is not what you meant.

They aren’t equal. They are two separate issues. One occurring now and one that happened, got investigated, and is over.

I think what Trump is doing should cease right now. He shouldn’t be allowed to now go after Seth and Fallon. How does discussing past issues help condemn current actions?

 

[CowboyJD]

Man, all this back and forth!! It’s game day and we should be planning our tailgate strategy.

I never would have thought, Jobob would become the Peacemaker.

 

[CowboyJD]

They aren’t equal. They are two separate issues. One occurring now and one that happened, got investigated, and is over.

I think what Trump is doing should cease right now. He shouldn’t be allowed to now go after Seth and Fallon. How does discussing past issues help condemn current actions?

I doesn't help condemn current actions.

I DOES help to excuse them.

 

[jobob85]