Systemic racism or racism in the system

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Systemic racism is something we have discussed for years. Despite mounds of data showing that it exists, we have our deniers here.

Now, we have moved past that. Unfortunately, in the wrong direction. We don't just have systemic racism-generally felt to be deeply embedded practices and actions within the system that do not require specific racism on the part of an individual, to racist individuals in leadership positions in our government acting in racist ways.

The latest examples:

This month, the White House and the Department of Homeland Security jointly posted a recruitment ad for Immigration and Customs Enforcement on Instagram, Facebook and X, overlaid with the words “WE’LL HAVE OUR HOME AGAIN.”

That’s also the name of a song, written by members of a self-described “pro-White fraternal order,” that has been embraced by the Proud Boys and other white-nationalist groups. Hundreds of explicitly neo-Nazi and white-supremacist accounts have shared the song on Telegram, an encrypted messaging app, since 2020. The white supremacist who killed three Black people at a Jacksonville, Fla., dollar store in 2023 included lyrics from the song in his writing.
There are two types of people to whom these messages will quickly look familiar,” Oren Segal, a vice president for counterextremism at the Anti-Defamation League, said of the panoply of postings, “white supremacists, and those who study white supremacists.”

A Homeland Security spokeswoman, Tricia McLaughlin, said that if the ICE recruiting post were actually about the song, it “would be a problem” and “morally repugnant.” But, she said, the post had no relation to the white-supremacist anthem.
“There are plenty of references to those words in books and poems,” she said, adding that she was “in charge of everything” posted on the department’s social media accounts.

But when the post was opened on Instagram’s mobile app, audio from the chorus of the song played in the background. After a reporter pointed this out, Ms. McLaughlin said The Times was participating in a left-wing conspiracy theory.

“I’m telling you it’s not there,” she said.

Less than 40 minutes after the interview on Thursday, the Instagram post — including audio from the song — disappeared from social media. Posts on X and Facebook, which did not include an audio component, are still visible.

It was The Times, Ms. McLaughlin said, that was “mainstreaming racism” by tying the agency’s post to the white nationalist anthem.


Racism from official government social media. Served with a side of gaslighting. How nice.
 
it's disgusting...every time I try to have a conversation with my maga friends/family about racism with this administration they just laugh it off...I am just looking for things/making S&!t up, etc.
just today, I saw a social media post about Ilhan Omar getting sprayed with liquid and I would bet that roughly 70% of the responses were racists in nature...makes me sick...but not surprised, as our Nation has a 'proud' history of racism!
 
just today, I saw a social media post about Ilhan Omar getting sprayed with liquid and I would bet that roughly 70% of the responses were racists in nature...makes me sick...but not surprised, as our Nation has a 'proud' history of racism!
Trump claimed she had it done to herself and it was all made up
 
Systemic racism is something we have discussed for years. Despite mounds of data showing that it exists, we have our deniers here.

Now, we have moved past that. Unfortunately, in the wrong direction. We don't just have systemic racism-generally felt to be deeply embedded practices and actions within the system that do not require specific racism on the part of an individual, to racist individuals in leadership positions in our government acting in racist ways.

The latest examples:

This month, the White House and the Department of Homeland Security jointly posted a recruitment ad for Immigration and Customs Enforcement on Instagram, Facebook and X, overlaid with the words “WE’LL HAVE OUR HOME AGAIN.”

That’s also the name of a song, written by members of a self-described “pro-White fraternal order,” that has been embraced by the Proud Boys and other white-nationalist groups. Hundreds of explicitly neo-Nazi and white-supremacist accounts have shared the song on Telegram, an encrypted messaging app, since 2020. The white supremacist who killed three Black people at a Jacksonville, Fla., dollar store in 2023 included lyrics from the song in his writing.
There are two types of people to whom these messages will quickly look familiar,” Oren Segal, a vice president for counterextremism at the Anti-Defamation League, said of the panoply of postings, “white supremacists, and those who study white supremacists.”

A Homeland Security spokeswoman, Tricia McLaughlin, said that if the ICE recruiting post were actually about the song, it “would be a problem” and “morally repugnant.” But, she said, the post had no relation to the white-supremacist anthem.
“There are plenty of references to those words in books and poems,” she said, adding that she was “in charge of everything” posted on the department’s social media accounts.

But when the post was opened on Instagram’s mobile app, audio from the chorus of the song played in the background. After a reporter pointed this out, Ms. McLaughlin said The Times was participating in a left-wing conspiracy theory.

“I’m telling you it’s not there,” she said.

Less than 40 minutes after the interview on Thursday, the Instagram post — including audio from the song — disappeared from social media. Posts on X and Facebook, which did not include an audio component, are still visible.


It was The Times, Ms. McLaughlin said, that was “mainstreaming racism” by tying the agency’s post to the white nationalist anthem.


Racism from official government social media. Served with a side of gaslighting. How nice.
I think there is more than ample evidence that there is both systemic racism and racism in the system. And it is currently being encouraged and further propagated by the Trump regime.
 
it's disgusting...every time I try to have a conversation with my maga friends/family about racism with this administration they just laugh it off...I am just looking for things/making S&!t up, etc.
just today, I saw a social media post about Ilhan Omar getting sprayed with liquid and I would bet that roughly 70% of the responses were racists in nature...makes me sick...but not surprised, as our Nation has a 'proud' history of racism!

I haven't seen racist comments (yet), just authenticity questions. One person questioning the exchange was a poc.
 
Do you think Trump consistently calling brown women "low IQ" are racist comments?

It could be. I honestly haven't heard him say "brown women have low IQ" nor have I seen him address brown women and say something along the lines of "you brown women have low IQ." And I'm not denying whether your claim is true or not.

If he's specifically labeling people low IQ based on color specifically, that is most certainly a racist comment.
 
It could be. I honestly haven't heard him say "brown women have low IQ" nor have I seen him address brown women and say something along the lines of "you brown women have low IQ." And I'm not denying whether your claim is true or not.

If he's specifically labeling people low IQ based on color specifically, that is most certainly a racist comment.
Jan 20, 2026

Trump came equipped with a couple of binders including one labeled “ACCOMPLISHMENTS.” Yet as he read through the provided list, Trump repeatedly raged against the Somali population, including suggesting that they are of inferior intelligence. Trump first turned to the topic as he alluded to the ongoing ICE raids in Minnesota, which have been met with massive protests. The state is home to the country’s largest Somali population and the federal crackdown has come amid a wave of right-wing influencers making exaggerated claims about alleged daycare fraud in the community.

“Nineteen billion dollars at a minimum is missing in Minnesota, given to a large degree by Somalians. They’ve taken it,” Trump said. ”Somalians, can you imagine? And they don’t do it — a lot of very low IQ people. They don’t do it. Other people work it out and they get them money and they go out and buy Mercedes Benzes.”

Earlier on Tuesday, Trump posted a video on his Truth Social platform where Andy Frisella, a podcaster who sells a “mental toughness program” suggested the daycare fraud must be part of a larger conspiracy since Somalis “have an average IQ of 68.” The claims reek of eugenics, the debunked racist theories arguing certain races are genetically inferior.
 
also:
AI Overview



Based on available reports, Donald Trump has not generally targeted white people as a group with accusations of being "low IQ." Instead, he has a documented history of using the term "low IQ" to insult specific individuals, often including Black people, women, and political opponents
.
  • Targets of "Low IQ" Insults: Trump has frequently used this phrase against individuals such as Representative Maxine Waters, Representative Jasmine Crockett, former aide Omarosa Manigault Newman, and journalist Don Lemon.
  • Contextual Patterns: Critics and commentators have argued that Trump's use of "low IQ" to describe Black individuals and women is a form of attack that taps into racial stereotypes.
  • Broader Usage: While he has historically used the term "stupid" to describe various political opponents—who were often white in earlier,1968-2016 contexts—the specific phrase "low IQ" has been more consistently directed at individuals of color and political critics, according to reports
 
Systemic racism is something we have discussed for years. Despite mounds of data showing that it exists, we have our deniers here.

Now, we have moved past that. Unfortunately, in the wrong direction. We don't just have systemic racism-generally felt to be deeply embedded practices and actions within the system that do not require specific racism on the part of an individual, to racist individuals in leadership positions in our government acting in racist ways.

The latest examples:

This month, the White House and the Department of Homeland Security jointly posted a recruitment ad for Immigration and Customs Enforcement on Instagram, Facebook and X, overlaid with the words “WE’LL HAVE OUR HOME AGAIN.”

That’s also the name of a song, written by members of a self-described “pro-White fraternal order,” that has been embraced by the Proud Boys and other white-nationalist groups. Hundreds of explicitly neo-Nazi and white-supremacist accounts have shared the song on Telegram, an encrypted messaging app, since 2020. The white supremacist who killed three Black people at a Jacksonville, Fla., dollar store in 2023 included lyrics from the song in his writing.
There are two types of people to whom these messages will quickly look familiar,” Oren Segal, a vice president for counterextremism at the Anti-Defamation League, said of the panoply of postings, “white supremacists, and those who study white supremacists.”

A Homeland Security spokeswoman, Tricia McLaughlin, said that if the ICE recruiting post were actually about the song, it “would be a problem” and “morally repugnant.” But, she said, the post had no relation to the white-supremacist anthem.
“There are plenty of references to those words in books and poems,” she said, adding that she was “in charge of everything” posted on the department’s social media accounts.

But when the post was opened on Instagram’s mobile app, audio from the chorus of the song played in the background. After a reporter pointed this out, Ms. McLaughlin said The Times was participating in a left-wing conspiracy theory.

“I’m telling you it’s not there,” she said.

Less than 40 minutes after the interview on Thursday, the Instagram post — including audio from the song — disappeared from social media. Posts on X and Facebook, which did not include an audio component, are still visible.


It was The Times, Ms. McLaughlin said, that was “mainstreaming racism” by tying the agency’s post to the white nationalist anthem.


Racism from official government social media. Served with a side of gaslighting. How nice.
Wow. I remember seeing the original news on the slogan, but didn’t see the DHS Spokesperson response or the audio playing on IG. We have moved from dog whistle to bullhorn.
 
When I was a child a group of children were chosen to be a part of a performance. They performed and received a lot of attention. They sang, danced and had a script. There were dressy costumes. I was a little bit jealous as I would have liked the attention. It was a rendition of a vaudeville show in blackface. As an adult I learned just how insulting the act was to black people. I had to change my mind
because it was not innocent in the ways that I had previously thought. If I had continued in arguing that performing in blackface was innocent I think that I would be willfully ignorant. The sad fact to me is that there is so much willful ignorance regarding racism. I think every general education American history course in high school and college needs information about the abolition and civil rights movements.
 
also:
AI Overview



Based on available reports, Donald Trump has not generally targeted white people as a group with accusations of being "low IQ." Instead, he has a documented history of using the term "low IQ" to insult specific individuals, often including Black people, women, and political opponents
.
  • Targets of "Low IQ" Insults: Trump has frequently used this phrase against individuals such as Representative Maxine Waters, Representative Jasmine Crockett, former aide Omarosa Manigault Newman, and journalist Don Lemon.
  • Contextual Patterns: Critics and commentators have argued that Trump's use of "low IQ" to describe Black individuals and women is a form of attack that taps into racial stereotypes.
  • Broader Usage: While he has historically used the term "stupid" to describe various political opponents—who were often white in earlier,1968-2016 contexts—the specific phrase "low IQ" has been more consistently directed at individuals of color and political critics, according to reports

Documented Instances Where Trump Called People of Color “Low IQ”

1. Maxine Waters (Black congresswoman)

Trump repeatedly referred to Rep. Maxine Waters as an “extraordinarily low IQ person.”
[usatoday.com]

This was among his most public and recurring uses of the insult toward a person of color.


2. Kamala Harris (Black and South Asian Vice President)

Trump has insulted Harris’ intelligence many times, including calling her:

This pattern was especially noted during the 2024 campaign cycle.


3. Jasmine Crockett (Black congresswoman)

Trump called Rep. Jasmine Crockett:

Crockett herself has stated publicly that she sees this as part of his pattern of targeting people of color.


4. Don Lemon (Black journalist)

During a tweet attacking both Don Lemon and LeBron James, Trump labeled Lemon the “dumbest man on television.”
Although not the exact phrase “low IQ,” this comment was widely cited as part of the same repeated theme of intelligence‑based insults directed at Black public figures.
[usatoday.com]


5. LeBron James (Black athlete)

In the same incident, Trump belittled LeBron James’ intelligence by saying Lemon made LeBron “look smart, which isn’t easy to do.”
[usatoday.com]

Again, while not the phrase “low IQ,” it fits the established pattern of attacking intelligence of people of color.


Multiple analyses have pointed out that while Trump does insult the intelligence of critics of all races, he disproportionately applies “low IQ” specifically to Black women, making it a racially coded attack.
[trendingnewsbuzz.com], [africanelements.org]


Yes. Trump has specifically called multiple people of color — including Black women political leaders and Black journalists — “low IQ,” “very low IQ,” or similar intelligence‑based insults. The documentation is extensive, public, and well‑reported.
 
The sad fact to me is that there is so much willful ignorance regarding racism. I think every general education American history course in high school and college needs information about the abolition and civil rights movements.
possibly one of the reasons why colleges get accused of indoctrination? in HS we get the 'safe, lil bit of racism, but America is Great' version of US History, then in college we start hearing about how things really were...just a thought...
A People's History of the United States of America should be a supplemental textbook in high schools...IMO...
 

Documented Instances Where Trump Called People of Color “Low IQ”

1. Maxine Waters (Black congresswoman)

Trump repeatedly referred to Rep. Maxine Waters as an “extraordinarily low IQ person.”
[usatoday.com]

This was among his most public and recurring uses of the insult toward a person of color.


2. Kamala Harris (Black and South Asian Vice President)

Trump has insulted Harris’ intelligence many times, including calling her:

This pattern was especially noted during the 2024 campaign cycle.


3. Jasmine Crockett (Black congresswoman)

Trump called Rep. Jasmine Crockett:

Crockett herself has stated publicly that she sees this as part of his pattern of targeting people of color.


4. Don Lemon (Black journalist)

During a tweet attacking both Don Lemon and LeBron James, Trump labeled Lemon the “dumbest man on television.”
Although not the exact phrase “low IQ,” this comment was widely cited as part of the same repeated theme of intelligence‑based insults directed at Black public figures.
[usatoday.com]


5. LeBron James (Black athlete)

In the same incident, Trump belittled LeBron James’ intelligence by saying Lemon made LeBron “look smart, which isn’t easy to do.”
[usatoday.com]

Again, while not the phrase “low IQ,” it fits the established pattern of attacking intelligence of people of color.


Multiple analyses have pointed out that while Trump does insult the intelligence of critics of all races, he disproportionately applies “low IQ” specifically to Black women, making it a racially coded attack.
[trendingnewsbuzz.com], [africanelements.org]


Yes. Trump has specifically called multiple people of color — including Black women political leaders and Black journalists — “low IQ,” “very low IQ,” or similar intelligence‑based insults. The documentation is extensive, public, and well‑reported.

Well if he's insulting the intelligence of poc, then it must be because he's racist. I know when insults white peoples' intelligence, it's because he's mad at them about something.
 
Well if he's insulting the intelligence of poc, then it must be because he's racist. I know when insults white peoples' intelligence, it's because he's mad at them about something.
Reading isn't your strong suit I guess

Multiple analyses have pointed out that while Trump does insult the intelligence of critics of all races, he disproportionately applies “low IQ” specifically to Black women, making it a racially coded attack.
[trendingnewsbuzz.com], [africanelements.org]
 
So when he said Somalis are low IQ, that isnt a racist statement?

I think you are grasping at straws here.

If Trump said Somali people have low IQ that would be a racist and/or prejudice thing to say.

I'm not grasping at anything. Trump insults anyone he doesn't like as low IQ. It can be people he's praised as intelligent in the past, but once they cross him all of a sudden they're not smart anymore. See Marjorie Taylor Green. See Rand Paul, a physician, who Trump is hot and cold with always.
 
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