Pope says 'backward' U.S. conservatives have replaced faith with ideology

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ROME (AP) — Pope Francis has blasted the “backwardness” of some conservatives in the U.S. Catholic Church, saying they have replaced faith with ideology and that a correct understanding of Catholic doctrine allows for change over time.

Francis’ comments were an acknowledgment of the divisions in the U.S. Catholic Church, which has been split between progressives and conservatives who long found support in the doctrinaire papacies of St. John Paul II and Benedict XVI, particularly on issues of abortion and same-sex marriage.

Many conservatives have blasted Francis’ emphasis instead on social justice issues such as the environment and the poor, while also branding as heretical his opening to letting divorced and civilly remarried Catholics receive the sacraments.

Francis made the comments in a private meeting with Portuguese members of his Jesuit religious order while visiting Lisbon on Aug. 5; the Jesuit journal La Civilta Cattolica, which is vetted by the Vatican secretariat of state, published a transcript of the encounter Monday.

During the meeting, a Portuguese Jesuit told Francis that he had suffered during a recent sabbatical year in the United States because he came across many Catholics, including some U.S. bishops, who criticized Francis’ 10-year papacy as well as today’s Jesuits.

The 86-year-old Argentine acknowledged his point, saying there was “a very strong, organized, reactionary attitude” in the U.S. church, which he called “backward.” He warned that such an attitude leads to a climate of closure, which was erroneous.

"Doing this, you lose the true tradition and you turn to ideologies to have support. In other words, ideologies replace faith,” he said.

“The vision of the doctrine of the church as a monolith is wrong,” he added. “When you go backward, you make something closed off, disconnected from the roots of the church,” which then has devastating effects on morality.

“I want to remind these people that backwardness is useless, and they must understand that there’s a correct evolution in the understanding of questions of faith and morals,” that allows for doctrine to progress and consolidate over time.

Francis has previously acknowledged the criticism directed at him from some U.S. conservatives, once quipping that it was an “honor” to be attacked by Americans.
 
Oh, so you think it's the Pope who needs to straighten up and clean up his act by updating his costume, for starters.
Crazy GOP wingers are going to be thinking the Catholic Church is too progressive for them now and changing too quickly for them. Just wait until the bomb threats start going out to the Catholic Church. Ryan Walters gonna have to change his approach to make the first Publicly funded Religious school in America/Oklahoma a Catholic one.

Despite the Catholic Church being THE most NOTORIOUS entity on Earth and in EARTH's ENTIRE HISTORY for Rejecting change for 1000's of years.
 
Crazy GOP wingers are going to be thinking the Catholic Church is too progressive for them now and changing too quickly for them. Just wait until the bomb threats start going out to the Catholic Church. Ryan Walters gonna have to change his approach to make the first Publicly funded Religious school in America/Oklahoma a Catholic one.

Despite the Catholic Church being THE most NOTORIOUS entity on Earth and in EARTH's ENTIRE HISTORY for Rejecting change for 1000's of years.

Whew!!!!! For a second I thought no one was going to try and make this a Dem vs Rep thread!!! Thank God you stepped up!

I’m not Catholic so I have zero interest in which side of their aisle wins the battle to be in charge of covering up for their pedo priests.


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Whew!!!!! For a second I thought no one was going to try and make this a Dem vs Rep thread!!! Thank God you stepped up!

I’m not Catholic so I have zero interest in which side of their aisle wins the battle to be in charge of covering up for their pedo priests.


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I'm afraid there are a sub set of far right MAGA crazies out there who are going to try to start targeting CHRISTIAN religious groups and Buildings they feel prevent the advancement of their brand of Political identity and politics....and I'm betting their beliefs will be fueled by Propaganda from Nefarious NON AMERICAN sources pushed through Social Media.

it wasn't that long ago CHRISTIAN churches were targeted, bombed and burned because of the color of the people skin that attended them. If that was enough to get them to do that back then, well the volume of misinformation they are falling for and gobbling up daily will lead them to those same action again soon.

We already have people being openly targeted, attacked and killed based on the color of their skin becoming frequent again...won't be long before they start going after the churches as well.
 
it wasn't that long ago CHRISTIAN churches were targeted, bombed and burned because of the color of the people skin that attended them.

True! Those Jim Crow Democrats were a nasty bunch! Thank goodness the Republicans pushed through the Civil Rights Act!!

Extremism exists on both flanks, and it’s just as wrong no matter who’s doing it. I’m not going to imagine terrorism against the Catholic Church over some mud slinging in an internal power struggle just yet, but the deranged things folks do is becoming less surprising every day.


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I'm afraid there are a sub set of far right MAGA crazies out there who are going to try to start targeting CHRISTIAN religious groups and Buildings they feel prevent the advancement of their brand of Political identity and politics....and I'm betting their beliefs will be fueled by Propaganda from Nefarious NON AMERICAN sources pushed through Social Media.

it wasn't that long ago CHRISTIAN churches were targeted, bombed and burned because of the color of the people skin that attended them. If that was enough to get them to do that back then, well the volume of misinformation they are falling for and gobbling up daily will lead them to those same action again soon.

We already have people being openly targeted, attacked and killed based on the color of their skin becoming frequent again...won't be long before they start going after the churches as well.
I wouldn't be surprised. In the past, a preacher has ranted against Catholics outside Boone Pickens Stadium before a game.
 
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