Oklahoma is going backwards

[Rob B.]

Please always remember, because I post something doesn't mean I agree or disagree with it. It is just a talking point and example of the kind of information being passed around the topic and subject at hand

When you posted that, it made it appear you were disagreeing with the statement you quoted.

 

[CowboyJD]

Posted because of the number of Interactions with the Video 250K+ and trying to build a bridge between his family ties and his court outcome and its relation to OSU.

The traction this story and specifically that video have (even with its mistakes) are going to have much further reach and traction than the actual Legality and complications of the Legal System.

This is a story that is sadly going national and this video will house the incorrect talking points it has made and the anger it generates will be pointed at Prosecution in Oklahoma, Legal system in Oklahoma and Oklahoma State University.

I don't expect they will be positive, and it is still gaining traction and could potentially become a black eye for the state and OSU if they don't get ahead of it.

Please always remember, because I post something doesn't mean I agree or disagree with it. It is just a talking point and example of the kind of information being passed around the topic and subject at hand

A fair implication that a reasonable person will and should take when you quote their statement and then post a reply to is that you are countering their statement in the discussion YOU'VE just entered into with them by quoting and responding to with your counterpoint.

If you just view yourself as a news/viewpoint/talking point accumulator and poster without regard to whether or not you endorse the viewpoint:

1. Maybe don't quote someone's post, enter into a direct conversation with them and post somebody else's talking point/viewpoint that you may or may not endorse. I'm REALLY not interested in responding in any way to person's that are never gonna see or be able to consider my response.

2. Damn-it, you're making start to agree with @Rob B. . This is a discussion board. All of us can (and do) do our own news/viewpoint/talking points accumulation/sifting. We've all got Google and social media and newspapers. We don't a team of Polds to do that for us. Either you're endorsing the viewpoints you provide or you're a pretty useless spammer. It's one or the other.

 

[CowboyJD]

When you posted that, it made it appear you were disagreeing with the statement you quoted.

Look at you.....saying in a single sentence what I took four short paragraphs to say.

 

[CowboyJD]

Thank you.

You're welcome, Bro.

Anything for you.

 

[cowboyinexile]

If he's who he appears to be, he'll be back in court.
And I'd be confident if/when that happens, he'll get hammered.

If he gets his $#!t together, then this all served its purpose.

I'd bet on the former...

Yeah. Looking at what Ive read about it there is a very small chance this is the last time he will be in a courtroom. When that happens again I hope justice is served but it really sucks that something has to happen again for that to happen.

Im 100% for rehabilitation of youthful offenders. Kids make mistakes and its a hard thing for a mistake to follow you your entire life. He doesn't seem like the remorseful learn your lesson type.

Appreciate the info from JD. We rarely see much context with stuff like this and from the outside it looks like the kid got off infuriatingly light. But apparently its not that cut and dry when you have offenders of a certain age.

 

[Polds4OSU]

When you posted that, it made it appear you were disagreeing with the statement you quoted.

sorry was not intending that.

 

[CowboyJD]

Yeah. Looking at what Ive read about it there is a very small chance this is the last time he will be in a courtroom. When that happens again I hope justice is served but it really sucks that something has to happen again for that to happen.

Im 100% for rehabilitation of youthful offenders. Kids make mistakes and its a hard thing for a mistake to follow you your entire life. He doesn't seem like the remorseful learn your lesson type.

Appreciate the info from JD. We rarely see much context with stuff like this and from the outside it looks like the kid got off infuriatingly light. But apparently its not that cut and dry when you have offenders of a certain age.

Yeah, there are always many sides to a story and the law that don't get pointed out in a social media post or even a local newspaper article.

YO cases are hard, man. The law is hard and complicated. You have strongly competing interests of rehabilitation and justice for the victims. You have the involvement of OJA which doesn't always (rarely when it comes to me) agree with an appropriate rehab plan.

They don't lend themselves to being summed up in a tik tok or instagram post.