And your reply to my reply about your sensitivity show that my reply must have hit home.
Gee, we could do this silliness all day.
Israel launches preemptive strike against Iran
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Gee, we could do this silliness all day.
Might as well, would fit right in with the rest of the silly pulling your hair out over an F bomb.
I doubt it, but you do have a point.
Let's say Biden announced that he personally negotiated a cease fire in a Middle Eastern conflict and a couple of members of his Cabinet tweeted that it was an unprecedented achievement. But the countries involved first said there was no cease fire, then said maybe but even if there was pretty much ignored it. Then Biden publicly begged one country to stop fighting.
Im sure plenty of MAGA types would be clowning him over that.
I mean, it happened to the last president and his base with Isreal. It's a subject that crosses the line in the sand.
Couldn’t they just clown him over the deal he cut to keep Iran from enriching Uranium?
Thank you. Exactly my point.
Starting conflicts on two fronts and pissing off your strongest ally. Israel may be approaching FAFO territory.
Im guessing they got a ways to go before they REALLY piss us off. AIPAC probably has more pull than anyone in Washington.
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So What was in it for Iran and China ? This Cease Fire??
Trump announced the move in a social media post while flying to Europe on Air Force One, adding that he hopes China will also purchase "plenty" of oil from the U.S.
"China can now continue to purchase Oil from Iran. Hopefully, they will be purchasing plenty from the U.S., also. It was my Great Honor to make this happen!" Trump wrote.
Oil prices continued to drop and markets surged Tuesday as Trump battered Iran and Israel into accepting a precarious ceasefire agreement. The agreement has curbed concerns that Iran would shut down the Strait of Hormuz, a key trade route for shipping oil across the globe.
Crude hit $65 per barrel in extended trading after West Texas Intermediate crude futures fell more than 8% to about $67 per barrel on Monday afternoon. Brent crude, the international benchmark, fell to $70 a barrel.
Washington reinstated sanctions on Tehran in 2018, and Trump's administration has imposed several new rounds of sanctions on Iran's oil trade since taking office in January.
Trump's sanctions had included penalties on three Chinese oil import companies, which led to curtailed buying.
Last week, industry experts warned that Iran shutting down the Strait of Hormuz could cause prices to surge to as much as $120 a barrel.
Roughly 20% of the world's oil supply travels through the strait, though closing it would significantly hurt Iran's own revenue. Energy Secretary Chris Wright dismissed concerns about its closing on Tuesday, telling Fox News that the move would harm Iran more than it would anyone else.
"The United States today is a net oil exporter. We don't count in any meaningful way on oil coming out of that strait. Iran would harm itself more than it would harm anyone else. It'll probably cause a mess or trouble, but it'll be small," Wright said.
Trump declares via social media he is removing some sanctions on China. Announces China can purchase Iranian oil
President Donald Trump cleared China to purchase Iranian oil on Tuesday, eliminating longstanding sanctions limiting the trade relationship.Trump announced the move in a social media post while flying to Europe on Air Force One, adding that he hopes China will also purchase "plenty" of oil from the U.S.
"China can now continue to purchase Oil from Iran. Hopefully, they will be purchasing plenty from the U.S., also. It was my Great Honor to make this happen!" Trump wrote.
Oil prices continued to drop and markets surged Tuesday as Trump battered Iran and Israel into accepting a precarious ceasefire agreement. The agreement has curbed concerns that Iran would shut down the Strait of Hormuz, a key trade route for shipping oil across the globe.
Crude hit $65 per barrel in extended trading after West Texas Intermediate crude futures fell more than 8% to about $67 per barrel on Monday afternoon. Brent crude, the international benchmark, fell to $70 a barrel.
Washington reinstated sanctions on Tehran in 2018, and Trump's administration has imposed several new rounds of sanctions on Iran's oil trade since taking office in January.
Trump's sanctions had included penalties on three Chinese oil import companies, which led to curtailed buying.
Last week, industry experts warned that Iran shutting down the Strait of Hormuz could cause prices to surge to as much as $120 a barrel.
Roughly 20% of the world's oil supply travels through the strait, though closing it would significantly hurt Iran's own revenue. Energy Secretary Chris Wright dismissed concerns about its closing on Tuesday, telling Fox News that the move would harm Iran more than it would anyone else.
"The United States today is a net oil exporter. We don't count in any meaningful way on oil coming out of that strait. Iran would harm itself more than it would harm anyone else. It'll probably cause a mess or trouble, but it'll be small," Wright said.
I'm pretty sure I made a joke about it. "Pulling hair out" is the snowflake move of Zzzing a joke then whining about it post after post.Might as well, would fit right in with the rest of the silly pulling your hair out over an F bomb.
I guess this stuff is just way too serous for some partisans, and they just can't handle jokes about their beloved political side so they act out.
If AIPAC is politically motivated - Netanyahu is has about a 30% approval rating in Israel - does that translate to his support here?
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History of AIPAC giving
Then the 2024 Elections HIT.
AIPAC Has Spent Over $100 Million on 2024 Elections
AIPAC's billionaire-funded super PAC has helped defeat two of the most vocal opponents of Israel's assault on the Gaza Strip.
The American Israel Public Affairs Committee, a powerful lobbying group widely known as AIPAC, has officially spent more than $100 million in the 2024 election cycle so far, pouring staggering sums into Democratic primary races in an effort to unseat progressive opponents of Israel's war on the Gaza Strip.
Citing new Federal Election Commission filings, Sludgereported Tuesday that AIPAC's political action committee had spent $44.8 million as of the end of last month, mostly on donations to political campaigns and party organizations. The United Democracy Project (UDP), AIPAC's super PAC, has spent $55.4 million so far, bringing AIPAC's total spending this cycle to just over $100 million—surpassing its reported spending target for 2024 races.
AIPAC money has already made a significant impact, helping a pair of pro-Israel Democrats defeat progressive Reps. Jamaal Bowman (D-N.Y.) and Cori Bush (D-Mo.)—two of Congress' most vocal critics of Israel's assault on Gaza—in recent primary contests.
"Supporting Palestinian rights is becoming so popular among American voters that pro-genocide groups have to spend over $100 million to hold on."
Sludge noted that UDP's financial support for Bowman's primary opponent, George Latimer, "set a record for spending by an outside group on a House election."
"A very bad sign for democracy that MAGA billionaires are spending this much money to shape our politics," the youth-led Sunrise Movementwrote in response to the new spending figures, referring to the Republican megadonors who have fueled spending by AIPAC-aligned groups.
Politico reported in June that AIPAC has been "the biggest source of Republican money flowing into competitive Democratic primaries this year."
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Fox’s Bret Baier Straight-Up Asks Vance If Trump Knows Where the Enriched Uranium Is
And on Monday night’s edition of Fox News Channel’s Special Report, Baier also pressed Vance about the degree to which the program was “obliterated,” repeatedly asking Vance about the missing uranium and noting “if the Iranian government survives as is, what’s to stop it from rebuilding over time if they in fact moved the 60 percent highly enriched uranium?”:
BAIER: So you said totally obliterated. The president has said totally obliterated the Iran nuclear program.
VANCE: Yes.
BAIER: Do you know for sure where all the highly enriched uranium is?
VANCE: Well, Bret, I think that’s actually not the question before us. The question before us is, can Iran enrich the uranium to weapons-grade level, and can they convert that fuel to a nuclear weapon?
And we know, based on the success of our mission, of course, the leadership of the president, but the incredible skill of our military, that the two mission objectives are completely successful. We know that they cannot build a nuclear weapon.
Now, you asked about the highly enriched uranium.
BAIER: Yes, like 900 pounds of it.
VANCE: What — but what we know, Bret, is that uranium is something that exists in very large supply. Our goal was to bury the uranium. And I do think the uranium is buried.
But our goal was to eliminate the enrichment and eliminate their ability to convert that enriched fuel into a nuclear weapon. I actually just — I think that’s an important point, Bret, because so many of the folks who have focused on the highly enriched uranium…
BAIER: Sure, 60 percent.
VANCE: … the main focus, Bret, has been to destroy their enrichment capacity, because we don’t want that 60 percent uranium to become 90 percent uranium. That’s the real concern. And that’s what was so successful about our mission.
BAIER: So, after all this, if the Iranian government survives as is, what’s to stop it from rebuilding over time if they in fact moved the 60 percent highly enriched uranium? You know, that’s the concern.
VANCE: No, the big concern, Bret — and this is, again, what we destroyed is — their ability to enrich uranium.
If they have 60 percent in rich uranium, but they don’t have the ability to enrich it to 90 percent, and, further, they don’t have the ability to convert that to a nuclear weapon, that is mission success. That is the obliteration of their nuclear program, which is why the president, I think, rightly is using that term.
But here’s the question. If Iran is desperate to build a nuclear weapon in the future, then they’re going to have to deal with a very, very powerful American military again. Our hope is that the lesson that the Iranians have learned here is, look, we can fly a bunker-buster bomb from Missouri to Iran completely undetected without landing once on the ground, and we can destroy whatever nuclear capacity you build up.
I think that lesson is what’s going to teach them not to rebuild their nuclear capacity.
IMO, this is not an entirely unreasonable position to take.
As long as our intelligence agencies are on the ball, that is.....and no comment from me on that particular concern.
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BREAKING: The White House confirms the existence of a top secret intelligence assessment that shows Iran’s nuclear program was not destroyed, only set back months.
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BREAKING: The White House confirms the existence of a top secret intelligence assessment that shows Iran’s nuclear program was not destroyed, only set back months.
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BREAKING: The U.S. military strikes President Trump ordered on Iran's nuclear facilities did not completely destroy the country's nuclear program and likely set it back only by months, according to two people familiar with an early intelligence assessment.
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BREAKING: The U.S. military strikes President Trump ordered on Iran's nuclear facilities did not completely destroy the country's nuclear program and likely set it back only by months, according to two people familiar with an early intelligence assessment.
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