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Follow up: Why did you close the case without an investigation of Renee Good immediately after it happened, yet are investigating Alex Pretti?
Blanche on Renee Good: "There are thousands -- unfortunately -- of law enforcement events every year where somebody is shot. The civil rights department of the DOJ does not investigate every one of those shootings."
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Blanche on Renee Good: "There are thousands -- unfortunately -- of law enforcement events every year where somebody is shot. The civil rights department of the DOJ does not investigate every one of those shootings."
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Follow up: Why did you close the case without an investigation of Renee Good immediately after it happened, yet are investigating Alex Pretti? Blanche on Renee Good: "There are thousands -- unfortunately -- of law enforcement events every year where somebody is shot. The civil rights department...
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Trump on Minneapolis: "Do these people really want to have rapists and drug dealers and people from prisons and murderers, do they really want to have them in the community? It's really insurrectionists and agitators and they're paid ... everybody has a beautiful sign with brand new wood. Leather panels."
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Trump on Minneapolis: "Do these people really want to have rapists and drug dealers and people from prisons and murderers, do they really want to have them in the community? It's really insurrectionists and agitators and they're paid ... everybody has a beautiful sign with brand new wood...
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Some do have and wear body cam.
Some don't.
They ALL need to be wearing body-worn cams when on duty. ICE has WAY MORE than enough money to make that happen at this point.
Polds4OSU
Marshall
Using the latest SIPRI‑based data for 2024–2025 military spending:
Countries with Military Budgets Similar to or Smaller Than ICE (~$29B)
These countries spend around the same or less on their entire national defense than ICE spends on immigration enforcement:| Country | Defense Budget (approx.) | Comparison |
|---|---|---|
| Netherlands | ~$27B [newsweek.com] | Slightly below ICE |
| Brazil | ~$26.1B [newsweek.com] | Below ICE |
| Australia | ~$32.3B [militaryspend.org] | Slightly above ICE |
| Canada | ~$27.2B [militaryspend.org] | Below ICE |
| Israel | ~$30B [newsweek.com] | Roughly equal to ICE |
| Italy | ~$30.8B (16th highest globally) [newsweek.com] | Comparable to ICE |
I see a couple on there we are looking to invade.
Wouldn't mind picking up Australia and Brazil for the beaches-would make for some cooler domestic vacations.
JTOSU
Ranger
Agreed. With the extremely low cost of wearable cameras there is zero reason why law enforcement should not have them on and activated.
All law enforcement (except undercover) should be easily identifiable, no-masks, and have cameras for security of both the public and themself.
PJ-OSU
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I thought it was like the portal and we are Bama with Tech money so we can kinda pick and choose.
Over recruit Wisconsin with Brazil seems like a good plan.
PJ-OSU
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I was going with the literal interpretation of "cooler" (temperature) for Australia and Brazil, but your joke is noted. Obligatory "ha".
In all seriousness, I am aghast at what has been happening and the manner in which basic rights are being trampled on a daily/hourly basis. I don't post much in the politics forum for my own sanity but do try to keep an eye on the goings-on.
Totally one-sided "level headed" Lots of strawmen. A ton of excusing bad behavior in there by simply not mentioning it.
"Using abstract rights language to excuse concrete behavior." If he had started with the ICE agent shoving the woman, then he is correct. He had the right to push her and absolutely did not need to. But no, he ignored all that. Lets ignore the actions of the goon that initiated the violence so we can pick apart only what the citizen does in response.
"Were his actions trying to avoid conflict or insert himself into conflict?" Again, ask that of the initial shoving officer. Tough guy pushes a small woman in the chest. Pretti was trying to non-violently assist her when the officer attacked him for rendering aide. The officer was the one escalating, Rep "Level Head" ignores that.
His fixation on "carrying a gun" is stupid. He never even pulled the gun. Other than the fact that the agents used the already removed gun as a pretext to murder him, there is no relevance to the gun. He talks as if Pretti came in with the gun out pointing it at agents. Truth is, only one person handled the gun in the entire incident and that was an agent.
"Things predictably escalate." Again with the justification. Things don't "predictably" escalate. If he was truly being level, he would point out that the officer is the one that escalated the situation. They should have been trained in de-escalation. Instead, both dead Minnesotans are because the agents did the exact opposite, like they were commanded (see below)
"Chose to comply" [or they kill you.] Got it, boot licker.
This was "level headed" from one perspective and completely ignored the other. Nobody was perfect or did everything right here. When you only talk about one side, you aren't "representing" you are focusing blame and creating more division.
Listen to Bovino giving them their marching orders. Sounds like a football coach or a commander going to war, not a law enforcement operation in an American city.
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JTOSU
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With the vitriol flung by the President, Noem, and others (ie calling Pretti a terrorist) combined with the over-the-top comments from Walz and others…I thought his measured statement was a good message coming from a MN state congressman.
I think his comments were designed to lower the temperature in MN, keep his constituents safe, stop a spread of violence, and push for an investigation. IMO, exactly the type of comments a local leader should make.
But as stated, his comments will have some disagree.
The "couple of people"
who are more MAGA than I, certainly seem to disagree with it.
Blaming only one side when obviously wrong was done by ICE also is not even close to lowering the temperature.
Call me “far left” if you want. Your opinions like above are so one sided that nothing you say really even registers.
JTOSU
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He didn’t blame one side. Not sure how that was your takeaway after listening to his comments and reading how people like Mike Rowe felt about it.
I didn’t call you far left. I made that comment well before you made your reply. My comment was about the only people who posted negative responses to the MN state congressman’s video.
If you aren't sure how it is my takeaway, show me how I am wrong which should be very easy. The video goes for 8:27. Please report or mark the times of the video where he is discussing the severe tactics and wanton violence of ICE as part of the issue and not just what Alex Pretti did.
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