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So now your argument has changed to percentage of total population.
Is that legal citizens or all residents of America?
adult citizens, and no I'm not changing my argument...I proved that one...just got me thinking what the percentage for total US would be...call me curious...
 
So now your argument has changed to percentage of total population.
Is that legal citizens or all residents of America?

Are you looking for legitimate reasons to deport people or excuses to get rid of them? Im not sure that I know someone who hasn't been pulled over for speeding or running a stop sign.

If you are saying traffic offenses are reason enough for you then you should just say that you don't care who they are or what they are doing for society-if they didn't go through proper channels then get them out of here. The next argument should be what the proper channels are though, because we seem to be doing everything we can to limit that as well.
 
me wonders if he takes advice from anyone...it's his way or the highway...narcissistic prick...

If you listen to the adults in the room from his first term, he hates advice that doesn't agree with what he thinks. So if I were to guess he surrounded himself with people who either believe or know to give him advice that he wants to hear. If I were to guess his meetings tend to be echo chambers until he looses interest and then cabinet members just kinda do what they want.

It's how you get an incompetent yet dangerous administration. And now people are dying because of it.
 
me wonders if he takes advice from anyone...it's his way or the highway...narcissistic prick...

If you listen to the adults in the room from his first term, he hates advice that doesn't agree with what he thinks. So if I were to guess he surrounded himself with people who either believe or know to give him advice that he wants to hear. If I were to guess his meetings tend to be echo chambers until he looses interest and then cabinet members just kinda do what they want.

It's how you get an incompetent yet dangerous administration. And now people are dying because of it.
I think that’s pretty accurate. This is why Stephen Miller is able to see his racist wet dream come to life right now. He can leverage Trump’s immigration policy and his desire for retribution against Walz to terrorize immigrant populations and cajole them to self-deport.
 
He said "vast majority" I looked at the first search result, from last month from NPR..
What about traffic misdemeanors like, illegally operating a tractor/trailer, or motor vehicle accident with injuries/damage?
I deliberately didn’t declare who I believed was “right” or who was “wrong”.

I’m not interested in that personal ruckus between the two of you. I couldn’t care less.

I took YOUR numbers, evaluated them, and expressed my own opinion.

“Motor vehicle accident with injuries/damage” isn’t a crime.

And illegally operating a tractor/trailer certainly doesn’t constitute the “worst of the worst” by a long shot IMO.
 
Headless, right armless ice agent. Creepy.

I don’t believe this is a real photo my, dude. AI. Pretti definitely got executed in similar fashion to this photo. There were way more ice agents surrounding him when the trigger was pulled at point blank range.

Yeah that’s AI
 
Headless, right armless ice agent. Creepy.

I don’t believe this is a real photo my, dude. AI. Pretti definitely got executed in similar fashion to this photo. There were way more ice agents surrounding him when the trigger was pulled at point blank range.
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Are you looking for legitimate reasons to deport people or excuses to get rid of them? Im not sure that I know someone who hasn't been pulled over for speeding or running a stop sign.
I'm looking for legitimate deportation of undocumented immigrants. If we deport only convicted felons we are missing a good portion of the overall immigration problem. I want them to take the time to fairly asses if someone needs to deport immediately or given the opportunity through asylum, to complete the immigration process.
 
I'm looking for legitimate deportation of undocumented immigrants. If we deport only convicted felons we are missing a good portion of the overall immigration problem. I want them to take the time to fairly asses if someone needs to deport immediately or given the opportunity through asylum, to complete the immigration process.

Ok fair enough.

Who would you deport?

I think the obvious is criminals. Using @CowboyJD 's example I think saying something like DUI convictions or worse is reasonable. If you want to say something lighter-say misdemeanor theft I could understand that. What next though? If someone is employed and actively seeking legal status I don't think that should mean immediate deportation but I feel like that should be reasonable as well. Someone unemployed, it depends. If they are just here because yeah. Someone who lost their job recently shouldn't have immediate deportation. Someone related-say the spouse of someone employed legally or a grandma living with kids who are employed and watching the grandkids after school, I don't think there is any harm with those people being here.
 
I'm looking for legitimate deportation of undocumented immigrants. If we deport only convicted felons we are missing a good portion of the overall immigration problem. I want them to take the time to fairly asses if someone needs to deport immediately or given the opportunity through asylum, to complete the immigration process.
Do you think we are getting that from the Trump administration right now?
 
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