Of course it's disproportionate. A vast majority of "undocumented" (illegal immigrants) haven't committed violent crimes. Same as any group of people.
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The difference is that during trump 2.0, they are targeting immigrants who have not committed crimes. Look at the graph.
Its a war against brown looking people, its as simple as that.
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Unless you are referencing a different graph than you posted, the graphs shows all three categories increase.
According to your graph, more illegal immigrants that committed or charged with a crime are being detained than those without a criminal charge.
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No, that is as simple as you choose to make it.
They are targeting illegal immigrants. Period.
As far as the nonviolent immigrants, are they registering and releasing them or deporting them. I have no problem with them staying here as long as they’re registered and abide by local, state and federal laws.
You ok with them being used as a tool for fraud?
I'm ok with them staying here as long as they are contributing to society and not just sponging our tax dollars.
If that was their actual goal, they would go after businesses that hire undocumented persons. But no, they just go after random people, usually while they are working their day jobs! And in a brutal and dehumanizing way.
Most undocumented immigrants pay taxes and do not receive the benefits of those taxes. They are net contributors, not net detractors to our society. Our federal safety nets are not open to them in the least. In 2022, they contributed over $96 billion in taxes while getting virtually none of those benefits. All while committing ~30% less crimes than US born citizens do on average.
Its a war on brown looking people by a bunch of self-described white nationalists.
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You say this but you seem to be ok with whatever goes. Otherwise you would be as outraged as the rest of us.
No, they are also targeting people on green cards, and naturalized citizens of the wrong ethnicity.
Specifically, what tax dollars are undocumented immigrants taking? And, if they are committing fraud they are not the people we are talking about as fraud is a crime and every single person here would want that stopped and those people deported.
Did you see my question about your area?
"Committed a crime" has often meant a bounced check, DUI, or petty theft 15 years ago so frankly the ICE produced numbers on that are suspect.
Unless you can't see proportional differences, targeting is exactly the correct term for what that graph shows. Here, let me change it to something near and dear to your heart, protecting the wealthy from paying taxes, and tell me if this was a real graph you would say "Nah, that isn't targeting the wealthy. They all increased."
Fraud or as an accessory to fraud would not be abiding by the various laws, now would it?
I live in Los Angeles, I know multiple people with hundreds of thousands of followers on food stamps and are crashing on people's couches because they are broke.
The internet is not real.
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I just wish honesty would prevail. People need to just say it was never about sponging tax dollars, or committing crimes, or narcotics, or fraud.
The guy they voted for has given away tax dollars and is proposing to give away tens if not 100s of billions more to people w more combined wealth than the bottom 80-85% of the US.
We invade a country under the guise of narco terrorism when they aren’t even top 5 producers of drugs coming into US. He pardoned a narcotics trafficker that he said he knew nothing about.
Fraud? He is a 34 time convicted felon. He nor his family can operate a charitable organization. He has pardoned several convicted of more fraud than we are talking about in Minnesota.
It’s about brown people. Period. Nothing more. They can hide behind whatever white goalpost they want to use. We need to stop arguing w them and call their actions out for what they are. Racist.
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These kids were US CITIZENS! Just Target cart pushers trying to be teens and work and get arrested and hauled off by ICE because they are brown
No warrant, no questions, just snagged em up because they were Brown. One even was carrying his Passport in his pocket and they STILL ARRESTED THEM
UPDATE: Many people wanted confirmation that these two young men were safe. Christian and Jonathan (both U.S. citizens) were released from ICE custody. Christian was released after several hours while Jonathan was thrown out of the vehicle.
Border Patrol Chief Greg Bovino approached them with a gang of masked agents. They never asked for any information, they never presented a warrant. They interacted with these two young men immediately and kept their focus on them.
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No warrant, no questions, just snagged em up because they were Brown. One even was carrying his Passport in his pocket and they STILL ARRESTED THEM
UPDATE: Many people wanted confirmation that these two young men were safe. Christian and Jonathan (both U.S. citizens) were released from ICE custody. Christian was released after several hours while Jonathan was thrown out of the vehicle.
Border Patrol Chief Greg Bovino approached them with a gang of masked agents. They never asked for any information, they never presented a warrant. They interacted with these two young men immediately and kept their focus on them.
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Neither is entering any country illegally.
