Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency

Bitcoin is a lot of things, but it is not a store of value. Lets look at its price fluctuation over the last 5 years:

That is not the chart of a "store of value". Bitcoin is just the most popular of a class of speculative assets. That is all it is, at least for now.
I am not a big proponent of bitcoin. To each their own and I understand the view point that these are speculative assets.

However, blockchain technology is real and utility based coins will be used. Part of the greatest problem with traditional finance in cross border transactions is the delay and nostro accounts needed to facilitate large bank to bank transactions.

XRP solves this issue by being a coin that can convert between currencies. The innovation in the field is quite interesting.

I get the caution but the value produced can be enormous especially with the value of the USA dollar being depreciated with inflation and hapless government
 
Ive been in XRP since 2014. Still holding to this day. The SEC is going to lose the case in my opinion
 
Better store of value than anything else you have your money in: Here's the receipts @GratefulPoke
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The -68%, -73% and -65% disagree with that assertion. Bitcoin is way too volatile. From investopedia: "A store of value is essentially an asset, commodity, or currency that can be saved, retrieved, and exchanged in the future without deteriorating in value." Depending on what year one invested in and pulled their money out, they could lose an enormous percentage of their initial investment. Lets compare this with gold, whos worse year is -28.3%, with no other year over 11%. That is what a store of value look like.

I know you (and others) have made a great deal in bitcoin, and I made a little bit awhile back myself. There are some good reasons to buy it, but that doesn't make it a store of value.
 
Ive been in XRP since 2014. Still holding to this day. The SEC is going to lose the case in my opinion
I think they will too. A lot of this stuff seems like theatrics trying to say it is a “security”. This is a delay tactic but it won’t work forever.

People are going to be stunned how high XRP will reach. Most have no clue about it and the potential behind it.

I also like QNT, LCX, XLM, HBAR, and XDC. Alt coins will probably outperform bitcoin long term.
 
The -68%, -73% and -65% disagree with that assertion. Bitcoin is way too volatile. From investopedia: "A store of value is essentially an asset, commodity, or currency that can be saved, retrieved, and exchanged in the future without deteriorating in value." Depending on what year one invested in and pulled their money out, they could lose an enormous percentage of their initial investment. Lets compare this with gold, whos worse year is -28.3%, with no other year over 11%. That is what a store of value look like.

I know you (and others) have made a great deal in bitcoin, and I made a little bit awhile back myself. There are some good reasons to buy it, but that doesn't make it a store of value.
I understand your point and yes most cryptocurrencies are volatile due to this being a relatively new nascent industry.

I think bitcoin in terms of utility will function more as a store of value. Obviously, this is me projecting and this is based on the fact that bitcoin will be harder to move money than some others in terms of speed and fees.

I think you probably think a store of value like gold and ultimately I can see bitcoin stabilizing with 5-6% annual returns. However, I see larger moves initially due to this industry just starting.
 


The Service will Debut with Financial Institutions and the U.S. Treasury on Board

CHICAGO – The Federal Reserve announced that the FedNow Service will start operating in July and provided details on preparations for launch.

The first week of April, the Federal Reserve will begin the formal certification of participants for launch of the service. Early adopters will complete a customer testing and certification program, informed by feedback from the FedNow Pilot Program, to prepare for sending live transactions through the system.

Certification encompasses a comprehensive testing curriculum with defined expectations for operational readiness and network experience. In June, the Federal Reserve and certified participants will conduct production validation activities to confirm readiness for the July launch.

"We couldn't be more excited about the forthcoming FedNow launch, which will enable every participating financial institution, the smallest to the largest and from all corners of the country, to offer a modern instant payment solution," said Ken Montgomery, first vice president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston and FedNow program executive. "With the launch drawing near, we urge financial institutions and their industry partners to move full steam ahead with preparations to join the FedNow Service."

Many early adopters have declared their intent to begin using the service in July, including a diverse mix of financial institutions of all sizes, the largest processors, and the U.S. Treasury.

In addition to preparing early adopters for the July launch, the Federal Reserve continues to engage a range of financial institutions and service providers to complete the testing and certification program and implement the service throughout 2023 and beyond. Montgomery noted that availability of the service is just the beginning, and growing the network of participating financial institutions will be key to increasing the availability of instant payments for consumers and businesses across the country.

The FedNow Service will launch with a robust set of core clearing and settlement functionality and value-added features. More features and enhancements will be added in future releases to continue supporting safety, resiliency and innovation in the industry as the FedNow network expands in the coming years.

"With the FedNow Service, the Federal Reserve is creating a leading-edge payments system that is resilient, adaptive, and accessible," said Tom Barkin, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond and FedNow Program executive sponsor. "The launch reflects an important milestone in the journey to help financial institutions serve customer needs for instant payments to better support nearly every aspect of our economy."

About the FedNow Service
The Federal Reserve Banks are developing the FedNow Service to facilitate nationwide reach of instant payment services by financial institutions — regardless of size or geographic location — around the clock, every day of the year. Through financial institutions participating in the FedNow Service, businesses and individuals will be able to send and receive instant payments at any time of day, and recipients will have full access to funds immediately, giving them greater flexibility to manage their money and make time-sensitive payments. Access will be provided through the Federal Reserve's FedLine® network, which serves more than 10,000 financial institutions directly or through their agents. For more information, visit FedNowExplorer.org.

Wonder what the IRS rules on reporting bartering are.
 


The Service will Debut with Financial Institutions and the U.S. Treasury on Board

CHICAGO – The Federal Reserve announced that the FedNow Service will start operating in July and provided details on preparations for launch.

The first week of April, the Federal Reserve will begin the formal certification of participants for launch of the service. Early adopters will complete a customer testing and certification program, informed by feedback from the FedNow Pilot Program, to prepare for sending live transactions through the system.

Certification encompasses a comprehensive testing curriculum with defined expectations for operational readiness and network experience. In June, the Federal Reserve and certified participants will conduct production validation activities to confirm readiness for the July launch.

"We couldn't be more excited about the forthcoming FedNow launch, which will enable every participating financial institution, the smallest to the largest and from all corners of the country, to offer a modern instant payment solution," said Ken Montgomery, first vice president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston and FedNow program executive. "With the launch drawing near, we urge financial institutions and their industry partners to move full steam ahead with preparations to join the FedNow Service."

Many early adopters have declared their intent to begin using the service in July, including a diverse mix of financial institutions of all sizes, the largest processors, and the U.S. Treasury.

In addition to preparing early adopters for the July launch, the Federal Reserve continues to engage a range of financial institutions and service providers to complete the testing and certification program and implement the service throughout 2023 and beyond. Montgomery noted that availability of the service is just the beginning, and growing the network of participating financial institutions will be key to increasing the availability of instant payments for consumers and businesses across the country.

The FedNow Service will launch with a robust set of core clearing and settlement functionality and value-added features. More features and enhancements will be added in future releases to continue supporting safety, resiliency and innovation in the industry as the FedNow network expands in the coming years.

"With the FedNow Service, the Federal Reserve is creating a leading-edge payments system that is resilient, adaptive, and accessible," said Tom Barkin, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond and FedNow Program executive sponsor. "The launch reflects an important milestone in the journey to help financial institutions serve customer needs for instant payments to better support nearly every aspect of our economy."

About the FedNow Service
The Federal Reserve Banks are developing the FedNow Service to facilitate nationwide reach of instant payment services by financial institutions — regardless of size or geographic location — around the clock, every day of the year. Through financial institutions participating in the FedNow Service, businesses and individuals will be able to send and receive instant payments at any time of day, and recipients will have full access to funds immediately, giving them greater flexibility to manage their money and make time-sensitive payments. Access will be provided through the Federal Reserve's FedLine® network, which serves more than 10,000 financial institutions directly or through their agents. For more information, visit FedNowExplorer.org.

Wonder what the IRS rules on reporting bartering are.

It's honestly about time banks move away from the ACH system. FedNow will be quicker, cheaper, and more secure. This is nothing to be afraid of or conspiracy minded about. It's just a settlement system. And I think it will actually reduce the need for a "digital dollar."
 
It's honestly about time banks move away from the ACH system. FedNow will be quicker, cheaper, and more secure. This is nothing to be afraid of or conspiracy minded about. It's just a settlement system. And I think it will actually reduce the need for a "digital dollar."
I think the main fear is that every single payment is now a known. And taxed. Lost a bet? Pay the tax too. Owed lunch money? Tax too.

Then AI can view your purchase in a different light. I bought both ammonia and bleach cleaners because I’m starting a side hustle and now marked as potential terrorist.
Or even better, you had beef twice this month, and your money won’t be accepted for meat purchases because you know, the climate.

I could see it used to snoop. To control behavior. To coerce. To politically designed power grabs.

Like every single thing we use today, we count on the operator to be sane and when they’re not, we all pay. I would use this advancement as well, but not for everything.

The past 100 years has shown the Fed isn’t the greatest thing since sliced bread. And with the debt going uncheck, are we going to trust the Afghanistan planners with unchecked access to all our wealth?

Not a chance
 
I think the main fear is that every single payment is now a known. And taxed. Lost a bet? Pay the tax too. Owed lunch money? Tax too.

Then AI can view your purchase in a different light. I bought both ammonia and bleach cleaners because I’m starting a side hustle and now marked as potential terrorist.
Or even better, you had beef twice this month, and your money won’t be accepted for meat purchases because you know, the climate.

I could see it used to snoop. To control behavior. To coerce. To politically designed power grabs.

Like every single thing we use today, we count on the operator to be sane and when they’re not, we all pay. I would use this advancement as well, but not for everything.

The past 100 years has shown the Fed isn’t the greatest thing since sliced bread. And with the debt going uncheck, are we going to trust the Afghanistan planners with unchecked access to all our wealth?

Not a chance

That's a lot. It's a new payment settlement infrastructure. I think a lot of these fears are overblown or nonexistent.
 
Bitcoin will tee off one of the biggest crypto bull runs of all time. 16 trillion projected market cap for cryptocurrencies by 2028.

We haven’t even seen what utility coins can do which will have actually better applications than bitcoin. These coins could demand higher market caps and liquidity needed.
 
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