Republican infighting

About Trump? I have multiple times. Yes this is another example of behavior that I cannot support and why I won’t vote for him.
I'm glad you aren't supporting this andvare willing to say as such. I don't remember your posts about this in the past, but I'm not gonna look for them either.

My naive stance is a politician needs to be above that behavior. If it's some random "personality" or whatever, I don't bat an eye at it. However, politicians and POTUS for sure needs to act like the adult in the room.

They are supposed to be leading the country, state, or whatever level they are elected to, and that crap doesn't help. A Twitter rando or some talking head doesn't have that same responsibility... unfortunately.
 
if trump wins election, say goodbye to the gop forever...it will henceforth be labeled the maga party (it may be there already)...trump's son (probably don Jr) will run for prez next, and the vicious cycle will continue...God help us...
 
I'm glad you aren't supporting this andvare willing to say as such. I don't remember your posts about this in the past, but I'm not gonna look for them either.

My naive stance is a politician needs to be above that behavior. If it's some random "personality" or whatever, I don't bat an eye at it. However, politicians and POTUS for sure needs to act like the adult in the room.

They are supposed to be leading the country, state, or whatever level they are elected to, and that crap doesn't help. A Twitter rando or some talking head doesn't have that same responsibility... unfortunately.
I agree that a President has much more responsibility for behavior than an Olbermann.
But it was at least the third time an Olbermann tweet had been posted recently. That guy wakes up angry.
 
if trump wins election, say goodbye to the gop forever...it will henceforth be labeled the maga party (it may be there already)...trump's son (probably don Jr) will run for prez next, and the vicious cycle will continue...God help us...
My bet is on daughter in law Lara Trump. Both older sons are 12 eggs short of a dozen. It wouldn’t surprise me if she’s not the VP pick. Not saying it will happen. Just won’t surprise.
 

Marjorie Taylor Greene mocks Mike Johnson for 'nonstop complaining' and moaning about how 'tired' he is: Republican calls him a 'Democrat' Speaker who hasn't done enough to battle a DOJ that wants Trump to 'die in jail'​


  • The Georgia Republican sent the speaker off to a two-week Easter break with a threat to his job, filing a motion to vacate last month
  • Greene seemed to suggest she'd use caution in calling the motion for a vote. 'I support the majority and I'm not going to be irresponsible with it'
A week away from Washington has not eased Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene's fury at Speaker Mike Johnson.


The Republican firebrand is pushing back on his suggestion they are back on speaking terms after exchanging text messages over the weekend, and insists she is still wants to take the gavel away from him.

The Georgia lawmaker sent Johnson off to a two-week Easter break with a threat to his job, filing a motion to vacate last month that could send the House back in to speakerless chaos.

Johnson claimed on Fox News on Sunday that he and Greene had 'exchanged text messages' over the Easter weekend and had made plans to talk 'early next week.'

'Someone just told me that he had said he had talked to me over the break but we had very little communication,' Greene told DailyMail.com in an interview.

She went on: 'He had called on Thursday night before Good Friday and left a message. Basically, just saying how tired he was and how he was traveling through states fundraising and mainly that he was really wanting to talk to me. And so when I got that message, I just texted him back. You know, I don't want to talk to someone that's so tired and complaining nonstop.'


Greene launched her bid to potentially oust the speaker after a $1.2 trillion bill that funded six agencies of government. She did not make the resolution 'privileged,' meaning it will loom over Johnson's head and she has the ability to call it for a quick vote at any moment.


She said she is no closer to withdrawing her motion to vacate, deeming Johnson a 'Democrat speaker' who doesn't spend any time listening to his Republican conference.

'He cannot be Speaker of the House,' she said. 'He just can't be, I won't vote for him. Many other Republican members are saying the same thing. He's not our speaker. He's the Democrat speaker.'

But Greene seemed to suggest she'd use caution in calling the motion for a vote.

'I want the majority next [Congress]. I support the majority and I'm not going to be irresponsible with it,' she said. 'The more Mike Johnson does to serve the Biden administration and to go against the will of the American people is he's proving me right without me having to do anything.'

She, and other conservative hardliners, were frustrated by what they deemed a lack of conservative wins in a pair of packages that funded the government in 2024. It followed three continuing resolutions (CRs) which had punted the deadline down the road and extended funding at 2023 levels.


Hardliners wanted border security legislation attached to the spending deal - a demand which would have complicated its passage in the Democrat-led Senate and risked a government shutdown.

'Mike Johnson did nothing about the border,' said Greene.

'He funded the FBI and the Department of Justice gave the FBI a new building department, just full funding that is literally wanting to put Trump in jail for the rest of his life. It would die in jail if the Department of Justice had their way. Mike Johnson? Full funding.'


Johnson, meanwhile, on Fox News on Sunday suggested that Republicans are behind him.

'I think all of my other Republican colleagues recognize this [motion to vacate] as a distraction from our mission,' he said. 'We don't need any dissension right now.'

GOP leadership touted conservative wins in the latest spending package like a three percent increase in defense spending, retaining the Hyde amendment to ban federal money from being used for abortions and a ban on gas stove restrictions.

But rank-and-file conservatives have called out other provisions like the bill's $200 million for a new FBI headquarters and $300 million that goes toward the Ukrainian Assistance Initiative.

Johnson has been touting a 6 percent cut at the FBI, which he said had been 'really overreaching' and 'have been turned in some ways against the American people.'


Johnson said the spending package cuts 3 percent from the Justice Department and 7 percent from the ATF. 'And that's just a start,' Johnson said at the time. 'We have a lot more priorities and things that we need to advance.'

Greene harkened back to the days of Wisconsin Republican Paul Ryan, when the then-speaker tried to appease hardliners upset over funding increases and a lack of conservative policy wins with an increase in the defense budget.

'He not only repeated Paul Ryan, but it's worse, what he did was far worse,' Greene said. 'There's no daylight between [Johnson] and Nancy Pelosi.'

Former Speaker Kevin McCarthy, like Johnson, often spoke about the perils of negotiating in divided government when hardliners came after him about negotiated deals. But Greene had a much closer relationship with the former speaker and even defended him against movements to oust him.


'He would never have asked any kind of government funding without getting border security wins,' Greene said, adding that unlawful immigrants were now 'squatting in people's houses' and 'raping children.'

'Under Kevin McCarthy, we had five families meetings, and that meant that all parts of our conference, we would go and hold meetings and his office and talk about everything,' Greene said, referring to the five factions of the Republicans conference that represent varying interests.

'We all had a voice with McCarthy. But once Mike Johnson became speaker, we stopped having five families meetings,' she said. 'The only meetings that are held are four corners, that is Mike Johnson meeting with Hakeem Jeffries, Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell.'

But Johnson seemingly can't win with his free-wheeling conference.

Others have suggested he spends too much time meeting with those of Greene's mind who might come for his job or threaten floor business if he does not appease their wishes, thus leaving the priorities of pragmatists by the wayside.


Johnson blamed the indomitable nature of his conference for giving Democrats leverage.

'Marjorie's a friend, she's very frustrated about, for example, the last appropriations bills. Guess what? So am I,' Johnson added on Fox.

'But with the smallest margin in U.S. history, we're sometimes going to get legislation that we don't like, and the Democrats know that when we don't all stand together with our razor-thin majority, then they have a better negotiation position, and that's why we got some of the things we didn't like.'

Greene, meanwhile, said blaming divided government and small margins was an 'excuse.'

'I've heard a lot of excuses,' she said. 'But I'll argue this: under President Bill Clinton, Republicans passed a balanced budget and they fought so hard to make that happen. Within a few years that literally led to over $4 billion paying down our deficit, if that was possible. If that was possible under a divided government, Speaker Johnson certainly could have at least done something about the border.'


Greene cast doubt on Johnson and the rest of House Republican leadership to hold onto the House in November.

'Will we win the majority? We might because Trump is on the ticket, but it's not because we've earned it,' she said.

'What Mike Johnson is doing is a message to Republican voters that they don't have anything to vote for in a future Republican party without Trump.'
 
My bet is on daughter in law Lara Trump. Both older sons are 12 eggs short of a dozen. It wouldn’t surprise me if she’s not the VP pick. Not saying it will happen. Just won’t surprise.
I just thought of something better (ha...better...lol)...trump in 24, MTG in 28...maga, maga, maga,...
 

'Russian propaganda' has 'infected a good chunk of my party’s base': GOP foreign affairs chair

“I want to be on the right side of history,” is what House Foreign Affairs Committee Chair Michael McCaul (R-TX) told Puck News’ Julia Ioffe in a recent interview.

The Texas Republican spent much of the conversation expressing frustration towards his GOP colleagues' refusal to move on the bipartisan package passed by the Senate in February — which includes Ukrainian aid.


A self-described “Reagan Republican,” the Texas congressman told Ioffe he’s a strong supported of “freedom, democracy, human rights.”

According to Ioffe, the “pressure” Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) has been getting from colleagues like McCaul “has resulted in Johnson’s inching closer to letting the House vote on the Senate aid package, provided he can dress it up in a way that would make it more attractive to his fellow Republicans: namely, through the inclusion of McCaul’s REPO for Ukrainians Act, which would allow the U.S. to redirect seized Russian assets to Ukraine; reversing Biden’s moratorium on new LNG terminals; and, in line with Trump’s demands from the sidelines, making part of the Ukraine aid a loan, rather than a grant.”


As for making a portion of the aid a loan, it would apply only to the funds that go toward supporting the Ukrainian government’s budget—things like salaries for the soldiers and bureaucrats who keep the fight going and the state from collapsing. That is a tiny fraction of the $60 billion aid package. The vast majority is going to weapons and ultimately stays in the U.S. with U.S. manufacturers, creating U.S. jobs. Moreover, making the loan zero-interest and forgivable makes it palatable even to Ukrainians, who—as the Ukrainian ambassador told me the other day—understand that it’s a meaningless sweetener for Republicans, but if that’s what it takes to get the rest of the aid through, so be it.

“I think Russian propaganda has made its way into the United States, unfortunately, and it’s infected a good chunk of my party’s base,” the Foreign Affairs Committee chair told Ioffe. “And I have to explain to them what’s at stake, why Ukraine is in our national security interest. By the way, you don’t like Communist China? Well, guess what? They’re aligned [with Russia], along with the Ayatollah. So when you explain it that way, they kind of start understanding it. And unlike 1939, we want to provide deterrence so that we don’t have to send anyone over, and we don’t want Article V invoked. Because the next thing the Russians will do is [attack] Moldova, Georgia, and then part of the Baltics. Or at least provoke a lot. So I just think it’s preventative. “


Referring to his far-right colleagues against supplying aid to Ukraine, McCaul added, “There’s a new wing of isolationism, and that takes you back again to the 1930s. That was not helpful. Now, I understood it—because World War I was very bloody, and Americans were like, “We don’t want to go over to save Europe again.” But had we been involved earlier and provided that deterrence, we could have saved a lot of blood and treasure.”


The GOP leader emphasized, “I just see so many parallels between then and what’s happening right now. And if we fail in this aid package and Putin does take Ukraine—and it won’t take him very long—then where will the United States be?”
 

Greene says Speaker Johnson is a ‘Democrat,’ comparable to Nancy Pelosi


Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) on Wednesday likened Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) to a Democrat as she doubled down on threats to push forward with an effort to oust him from his post.

In a phone interview with CNN’s Manu Raju on Wednesday, Greene reportedly showed no sign of being deterred by warnings from within her conference to quell her resistance to Johnson. She sharply criticized Johnson for striking a bipartisan deal on a $1.2 trillion funding bill that averted a partial government shutdown.

Greene has attacked the bill for relying on Democratic votes for passage, lacking many GOP policy demands and not being released with sufficient time to read the full bill before voting.

Greene said she thinks Republicans around the country back her position, saying GOP voters are “furious that our so-called Christian conservative, Republican Speaker of the House did this to them,” Raju reported.

“People are fed up with Republicans that say one thing and turn around and literally join the flock and just continue the same old crap everybody’s tired of,” Greene said, likening Johnson’s tactics to that of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and former Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).

Greene reportedly said Johnson has “literally turned into Mitch McConnell’s twin and worse. He’s a Democrat.”

“There’s not even any daylight between him and Nancy Pelosi at this point,” she reportedly added.

Speaker Johnson: I understand and agree with Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene's concerns

CNN reported that Greene shot down the suggestion that ousting Johnson could result in a more moderate Speaker, like House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.).

“We cannot get anyone more moderate than Mike Johnson,” Greene said. “I would argue Mike Johnson, we can’t get any further left than Mike Johnson. I think the Democrats might be happier with him than they are with Hakeem Jeffries.”

After Johnson negotiated the funding package last month, Greene introduced a resolution to remove Johnson from power. The Georgia firebrand has not moved to force a vote on her motion to vacate, but throughout the long holiday recess, Greene has continued to attack Johnson and warn that she would not be afraid to act on her threat if he moves forward with a Ukraine package as he has said he would.

This past Sunday, Johnson acknowledged Greene’s frustrations with the government spending package — frustrations he said he shared — but also defended his negotiations with the Democrats as the simple reality of governing in a divided Washington.


“These are not the perfect pieces of legislation that you and I and Marjorie would draft if we had the ability to do it differently,” Johnson said in an interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Night in America With Trey Gowdy.” “But with the smallest margin in U.S. history, we’re sometimes going to get legislation that we don’t like.”
 
Yep, he is all about that.

But, ask him a specific and simple question....... crickets.

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You are very needy.
I wasn’t defending Gingrich. I could not care less about Biden making a White House proclamation about a Transgender Day of Visibility. I am not a religious person. But fact is Biden did make the proclamation (something Obama didn’t do when TDOV was on Easter during his term). You want to deny that and say Gingrich was not being factual..go ahead..I don’t care.
 
You are very needy.
I wasn’t defending Gingrich. I could not care less about Biden making a White House proclamation about a Transgender Day of Visibility. I am not a religious person. But fact is Biden did make the proclamation (something Obama didn’t do when TDOV was on Easter during his term). You want to deny that and say Gingrich was not being factual..go ahead..I don’t care.
Biden also made a proclamation the same day for Ceaser Chavez Day as well as an Easter Proclamation on the same day

Why do we ignore those and focus on just the Trans Day ?

It seems a little shady to me for someone to only focus on the one and not the entirety of the others made that day as well. Is it considered factual if you only say one happened and ignore the other two happened as well?
 
You are very needy.
I wasn’t defending Gingrich. I could not care less about Biden making a White House proclamation about a Transgender Day of Visibility. I am not a religious person. But fact is Biden did make the proclamation (something Obama didn’t do when TDOV was on Easter during his term). You want to deny that and say Gingrich was not being factual..go ahead..I don’t care.

Of course you weren't defending Gingrich.

Sort of like-
"Hey Dad, I've been learning about WW2 in history. I didn't realize that Hitler and Mussolini tried to take over all of Europe. And, even more Hitler's goal was to exterminate Jews and Slavic people to make room for more Germans to live. But, luckily Roosevelt, Churchill, and Stalin were able to team up and stop them. Isn't that interesting?"

"Well, son, Churchill was a florid alcoholic and was difficult to work with. And, Stalin, man, that guy killed millions."

"Umm, Ok. But, I mean, what about the Jews? Did you hear where I said what Hitler did?"

"I can acknowledge bad actors like Churchill and Stalin. You can defend them if you want."

"Gee, Dad, they weren't even the point at all. And defending the part where they were taking down Hitler seems pretty appropriate. I thought it was pretty clear who the bad actors were in the situation I was talking about."

"Son, you weren't clear at all. The history of Jews isn't important to me. I'm not Jewish. The fact is Stalin did bad things. I'm not defending Hitler."

"Of course you aren't Dad. Of course not."
 
Of course you weren't defending Gingrich.

Sort of like-
"Hey Dad, I've been learning about WW2 in history. I didn't realize that Hitler and Mussolini tried to take over all of Europe. And, even more Hitler's goal was to exterminate Jews and Slavic people to make room for more Germans to live. But, luckily Roosevelt, Churchill, and Stalin were able to team up and stop them. Isn't that interesting?"

"Well, son, Churchill was a florid alcoholic and was difficult to work with. And, Stalin, man, that guy killed millions."

"Umm, Ok. But, I mean, what about the Jews? Did you hear where I said what Hitler did?"

"I can acknowledge bad actors like Churchill and Stalin. You can defend them if you want."

"Gee, Dad, they weren't even the point at all. And defending the part where they were taking down Hitler seems pretty appropriate. I thought it was pretty clear who the bad actors were in the situation I was talking about."

"Son, you weren't clear at all. The history of Jews isn't important to me. I'm not Jewish. The fact is Stalin did bad things. I'm not defending Hitler."

"Of course you aren't Dad. Of course not."
Godwin’s law reached
 
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