Recent content by UpGrayedd Double Dose

Agree completely.

While the second advent and the rapture are not the same thing, the rapture is a part of the second advent. Additionally, a belief in the rapture does not require a belief in dispensationalism. A pre-tribulation premillennialism view of the rapture doesn't even require a belief in...

I am not arguing for or against a pre-tribulation premillennialist view of the rapture, but once again to say that it doesn't predate Darby is inaccurate. https://truthandtidings.com/2020/07/the-rapture-a-pre-darby-rapture/

Sorry, I don't have time to go point, by point. I do apologize, I didn't mean to question your faith or lack there of. Please see my post above for further clarification, but I think the three of us are talking in circles. My point is and has always been, there are many views on the rapture, and...

My apologies, I never meant to imply you weren't a believer. I cannot know your heart and it is not my job to determine who does or does not have saving faith. I was simply trying to restate an early point so as to discourage any non-believers from piling on. However, I concede that it could...

I'm glad y'all were able to carry on the debate while I was gone. First, let me restate that debating the rapture with a non-Christian is pointless as the gospel is foolishness to them, let alone eschatology. Second, just because Google/AI told you that the concept of the rapture didn't exist...

You too must incorrectly believe pre-tribulation premillennialism is the only interpretation of the Rapture.

Ditto, but i have a dinner date so I gotta run.

Once again your first error is that you incorrectly believe that pre-tribulation premillennialism is the only interpretation.

You must believe pre-tribulation premillennialism is the only interpretation... Show me proof you know what Paul's original audience thought or would believe. I'll ask again, if 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 is not describing some form of "Rapture" event (regardless of how and when this event...

Last time I checked, I never appealed to the authority of John Nelson Darby, and his views are not the only interpretation of the Rapture. As I stated in another post, there are many differing views on the Rapture, and eschatology in general is a very complex subject. I have my own views, but...

LOL, I see you edited your post. "Here, u can argue with the church and FYI the Bible also talks about Basilisks , Giants, Unicorns, Dragons, Behemoths , Leviathans, etc. Do you deny those too ??" Depending on your translation, no I don't deny they are mentioned in the Bible. 😉

I'm not sure where you got that, but eschatology is a very complex subject. To say that the Rapture is "often" taught as a secret event before tribulation is also disingenuous unless you define "often" as maybe sometimes. There are pre-tribulation premillennialists, mid-tribulation...

I'm not going to debate the Rapture with non-Christians because I see that as a futile exercise. However, as a Luthern to state that "there is No such thing as the Rapture in the Bible" isn't accurate. Sure the word "Rapture" isn't written in the Bible, but the concept certainly is (see 1...

I agree this most likely what has happened, but it shouldn't be. No one should be above the law and none of us common folks would get away with such shenanigans.